Railway Questions: Asia

last SG · 2010-06-01T13:42:01+00:00

For some, if not all of the HK MTR lines are uses overhead cantary wires to power, does that mean if the above ground sector is experiencing Heavy Rain with...

NickLim™ SG

Oh well, what are the major differences in Bangkok BTS and Bangkok MRT (Saw on Nick Lim's webpage in his profile)?

Or rather rephrase it in this way, is it the Thailand version of KCRC and the MTR?

I wouldn't say that, since KCRC started as a commuter rail. BTS is overground and MRT is underground to make things simple. Signalling and rolling stock is similar though. I would say it's like the Singapore East West and North South Lines versus the North East Line, minus the shared paid areas i.e. tap out and tap in again at interchange.

Samuel Lee SG

Oh I see, thanks for the clarification. And is KTM a commuter rail in Singapore / Malaysia version of it?

NickLim™ SG

Oh I see, thanks for the clarification. And is KTM a commuter rail in Singapore / Malaysia version of it?

Huh? In the entire network, KTM operates intercity services. Between Seremban and Rawang, Rawang and Tanjung Malim, and Pelabuhan Klang and Sentul, they offer commuter services.

Samuel Lee SG

Huh? In the entire network, KTM operates intercity services. Between Seremban and Rawang, Rawang and Tanjung Malim, and Pelabuhan Klang and Sentul, they offer commuter services.

Then what does a commuter rail means?

Samuel Lee SG

With the reference of Singapore Train forums that had a Cert 038 KTM issue, what is that actually, and does that mean there are at least 37 other certs for other purpose (Cert 01 - 037) or whatever (Cert 039 - ??)

NickLim™ SG

Then what does a commuter rail means?

You can find this on Wikipedia.

NickLim™ SG

Cert 038 gives you authority to walk on the tracks. You have to take a 2-year course at the Malaysian Railway Academy to obtain it. On whether there are other certificates, I am not sure.

Samuel Lee SG

Cert 038 gives you authority to walk on the tracks. You have to take a 2-year course at the Malaysian Railway Academy to obtain it. On whether there are other certificates, I am not sure.

Why is there such a course, if that has no link to become part of staff.

BTW, do one have to go Malaysia to obtain it?

NickLim™ SG

Why is there such a course, if that has no link to become part of staff.

BTW, do one have to go Malaysia to obtain it?

If you wanna be an Operations staff, you have to go for that course.

Yes, at Batu Gajah.

Fryderyk HPH SG

Nick, I heard that KTM has a loco from India.

Now India has its broad gauge. Was the loco regauged?

NickLim™ SG

Nick, I heard that KTM has a loco from India.

Now India has its broad gauge. Was the loco regauged?

KTM operates YDM4 locomotives.

Actually you can see what locomotives are for what kind by the letters and numbering. Broad Gauge is Wxx# where x is a letter and # is a number.

So for the YDM4:

Gauge: Y : Meter Gauge
Motive Power: D: Diesel
Usage: M: Mixed
4: Fourth type

The locos were not regauged. Instead IRCON had too many of them, they decided to lease them. The ones in Malaysia are all of the 6000 series.

Fryderyk HPH SG

KTM operates YDM4 locomotives.

Actually you can see what locomotives are for what kind by the letters and numbering. Broad Gauge is Wxx# where x is a letter and # is a number.

So for the YDM4:

Gauge: Y : Meter Gauge
Motive Power: D: Diesel
Usage: M: Mixed
4: Fourth type

The locos were not regauged. Instead IRCON had too many of them, they decided to lease them. The ones in Malaysia are all of the 6000 series.

There is broad and meter gauge in India then?

NickLim™ SG

There is broad and meter gauge in India then?

Broad, Meter and Narrow gauges. For Narrow, there are 1 feet and 2 feet gauges.

Fryderyk HPH SG

Broad, Meter and Narrow gauges. For Narrow, there are 1 feet and 2 feet gauges.

So for most of India, it is broad gauge? Intercity trains run on Broad gauge, or metre?

Interception_7 SG

So for most of India, it is broad gauge? Intercity trains run on Broad gauge, or metre?

Yeah. The most predominant gauge is the broad gauge, which has 96,851km of track length and 51,082km of route-kilometre.

Fryderyk HPH SG

Oh by the way, Malaysia has overhead catenary right? What is the voltage set to?

Would it be possible if this scenario, where for instance German DB Deutsche Bahn decides to sell KTM used locos and trainsets(ICE1, ICE2), and the EMU(ICE3 early few sets)? By simply regauging the trains, would they be possible to run in M'sia?

NickLim™ SG

Oh by the way, Malaysia has overhead catenary right? What is the voltage set to?

Not too sure about the voltage. Will try to source info.

But if KTM receives ICEs, it will be really pointless. The maximum operating speed while sharing the line with Komuter is 120km/h, as really pushing the limits. Outside of the Komuter areas, the speed limit is 140km/h operating speed. 160km/h emergency. The limit of the rails is 200km/h.

Interception_7 SG

Not too sure about the voltage. Will try to source info.

Voltage for catenary wire of KTM Komuter is 25,000V/25kV.

Besides that, metre gauge, I doubt it can run at high speed. 120km/h already look very unstable onboard the loco.

Fryderyk HPH SG

Voltage for catenary wire of KTM Komuter is 25,000V/25kV.

Besides that, metre gauge, I doubt it can run at high speed. 120km/h already look very unstable onboard the loco.

If it is 25kV, then it is French standard. The Germanic lands use 15kV(Austria, Germany, Switzerland)...

French locos? Metre gauge can run up to 200kmph safely. It probably is just the loco that generates the instability(rarefaction of rear carriages). Tilting trains would help a lot in this situation. Italian Pendolinos?

NickLim™ SG

Voltage for catenary wire of KTM Komuter is 25,000V/25kV.

Besides that, metre gauge, I doubt it can run at high speed. 120km/h already look very unstable onboard the loco.

82 class on Rawang-Rasa shuttle last time 120km/h shiok haha. ETS will get 140km/h operating speed limit, although while testing they got it up to 161 or something.

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