Crime rate in Victoria,10 times more than SG per 100,000 pax

last SG · 2018-02-01T06:33:02+00:00

Few years back ,ATM in SG were fitted with illegal readers.Some acct holders lose money from their accounts.Police caught some,including tourists etc.Now,oz...

Midlusionz SG

May i ask wat's the population like in Victoria?

skythewood SG

Know why local media never report this?

this stuff is too minor in nature. it basically boils down to 2 person with camera filming, with obvious intent to create trouble, trying to gain access to a protected place.

The officers ask them to leave, they make a scene, arrest for disturbing the peace.

there are thousands of complains directed at the police each year. if they have just cause, they would have filed a complain. the fact that they didn't is a sign that the police was smart to record down everything they did, and made sure their actions was accounted for.

skythewood SG

http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/non_version/cgi-bin/DisplayContent.pl?DOCID=1963-REVED-256&VID=888373126-000084&WEF=latest&TYPE=simple&mode=and&version=currentVersion&query1=protected%20place

Defensive measures at protected areas and protected places.
10. —(1) It shall be lawful for the Minister to authorise the taking of such steps as he may consider necessary for the protection of any protected area or protected place, and such steps may extend to the taking of defensive measures which involve or may involve danger to the life of any person entering or attempting to enter a protected area or protected place.

(2) Where any measures such as are referred to in subsection (1) are adopted, the Commissioner of Police or any person so authorised by the Minister in that behalf shall cause such precautions to be taken, including the prominent display of warning notices, as he considers reasonably necessary to prevent inadvertent or accidental entry into any such protected area or protected place; and where such precautions have been duly taken, no person shall be entitled to compensation or damages in respect of any injuries received or death caused as a result of any unauthorised entry into any such protected area or protected place.

lionnoisy SG

May i ask wat's the population like in Victoria?

Vic state is about 5.2 million ,above 13 % more than 4.6 million in Singapore.

We are looking for general picture,not a special puzzle

We shall looking at the general situation ,not some extreme cases.

There is naive u quote this case,or i quote that case.

If any case is typical,then i think u can bring here and share.

First,i just say crimes facts in Vic.Then i compare with SG.

The small conclusion is 10 times as SG.Then u guys

become so angry.

Now i want to bring Reality to you by showing official

survey in Aussie crimes.u are welcome to show your findings

for oz and SG crimes here.

I invite every one share their knowledge of crimes there.

People in 2 places may not reported their cases.

Survey may bring more info.

U are lucky if u are not victim of crimes in 10 years

This survey shows 52% of respondents said they were victims

of crimes in the past 5 years,drops from 55% in 2000

This is a fact and with due respect,i dunt want make any comments.

http://www.aic.gov.au/

Australia's leading national research and knowledge centre on crime and justice

i hate shootings

From medias,Shootings occured in CBD,residential areas,pubs areas.

It occured in day and night.

This is a typical one--

"There's all bullet holes everywhere," he said.

St George police said the shop had damage "consistent with gunfire".

No one was injured in the attack. Police were canvassing the area for witnesses, a spokesman said.

It is the fourth time in a month the restaurant, owned by the Hijazi family, has been targeted.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/family-restaurant-sprayed-with-bullets/2008/09/16/1221330797529.html

http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/news

u can know more of all shooting cases in the past

few years by seraching

shot

shooting

shoot

fire arms etc

skythewood SG

Well from my experience Singapore may be safe (but really how hard is it to police an island just 700+km square, but it's hardly crime free...

i got a deal for you... you take charge of singapore police force and make sure there is zero crime in singapore...

think you can promise zero crime, which is what you are aiming for? I think i just give you one family, and you try to make sure that your family members do not break any petty laws. if you can do that, than you will have chance...

crime free indeed...

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

Singapore still has gang issues?

She joined for fun, but leaving was not so easy

ATTRACTED by fun and easy money, Siti (not her real name), 17, a Secondary 4 school dropout, joined a gang two years ago.

At first, she was treated "like a queen".

"The gang members would be very concerned about me and ask me why I looked moody. They took me to clubs and paid for all my expenses," says Siti, who never had such attention lavished on her before.

Her parents divorced when she was six and she lives with her father. A store assistant who works 11 hours a day, he has little time for her. She speaks to her mother, a hawker's assistant who has remarried, on the phone once a week - mainly to extract pocket money.

Over two years with the gang, Siti loitered at Marsiling and Boon Lay, smoking, picking fights and selling illegal VCDs. She helped keep a lookout for the police, earning up to $200 a day for three hours of work.

"The first time I ran from the police, I was scared. But the second and third time, it felt normal," says the lanky 1.62m-tall teen who has bronze-streaked hair.

All cashed up, Siti and her gangster friends would book hotel rooms in Geylang and down Ecstasy pills together. The rooms cost around $40 a night and they booked up to five rooms each time.

"It was very fun. When the music was turned on, all I knew was to dance, dance, dance," she says.

During gang clashes, her self-worth and status soared, as she was deemed "a good fighter". Once, when a girl provoked a fellow gang member, Siti tore open the girl's shirt, stomped on her chest, then spat at her to show her "hatred".

She recalls: "The first time I fought, I was "somebody". At home, when I failed my exams, my parents would say: "You're a waste of money." But in my gang, I got a name for myself by fighting well. That's why I kept going back. My friends believed in me."

But eight months later, Siti got sick of bloody fights and having to flee from the police practically every day. She stopped answering gang members' calls and excused herself from meetings.

But the gang would not let her off so easily. They issued an ultimatum - she had to have sex with all 15 boys in the gang, one after another, if she wanted to quit. As part of the ritual called "rolling over", they would also videotape her naked body and circulate it among their friends.

Most of the girls in the gang considered rolling over a "normal practice" and it upset Siti greatly. "Other girls in the gang can give the boys their bodies after knowing them for one or two hours, but I'm not like that," she says.

So she begged her elder brother, who is 19 and with another gang, to help her leave without paying the penalty. His gang slugged it out with hers - and won. Siti's gang let her off the hook and agreed to "settle any future unhappiness" with her brother.

Siti, now a private school student, goes to Ain Society, a voluntary welfare organisation which helps youth at risk in Bukit Batok, every day.

She has found new friends among the other troubled teens there. "We have the same kind of attitude and at first, we didn't like each other. But they're like mirror images of me," she says.

Last year, Siti obtained three N-level passes as a private candidate and is now taking a course in customer service.

She is still afraid of running into her ex-gang members and keeps her head down whenever she passes their old hang-outs.

But she has not looked back on her decision to quit.

"I regret joining the gang, especially because I made my mother cry. She thought I gave my body to the boys. I thought she didn't love me. But she cried because of me so I felt I needed to change."

skythewood SG

Singapore still has gang issues?

so how.. what's your plan for zero crime?

and you can post maybe a hundred individual sob story, but how is the crime rate here compared to elsewhere?

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

More recent news:

I saw 3 human fingers on the grass  Arul john Sat, Aug 23, 2008
The New Paper

>CLEANERS are used to picking up after people's dirty habits. But a contract cleaner's day turned gruesome when
he picked up parts of a person.

The cleaner, known only as Mr Ismail, found three fingers at a Bedok school compound yesterday (August 21, 2008).

The fingers are believed to have been cut off in a parang attack on an 18-year-old in the area four days earlier.
Mr Ismail, who is in his 60s, was cleaning a grass verge within the compound of CHIJ Katong Convent Primary School when he saw the fingers, just before noon.

School principal Margaret Tan told The New Paper that the verge was beside a gate that opens from the school to the HDB blocks outside. Mr Ismail did not immediately realise that he had found human fingers.

The school's operations manager, who gave his name only as Mr Ho, said: "Mr Ismail calmly came to the general office and told me he had found something unusual in the grass.When I went to have a look, I saw three
human fingers in the grass. I told Mr Ismail to continue his work and called the police."

Mrs Tan said Mr Ho informed her of the discovery after he called the police. When The New Paper team reached the school around 1pm, we saw three severed fingers on a drain grating close to where Mr Ismail found them.
They looked like they were turning brown. They were later covered with a plastic container before being taken away by police for examination.

It was unlikely that the fingers could be re-attached to the victim's hand because of the likely lapsed time and their rotting state. Attempts to reach Mr Ismail were unsuccessful.

Most of the students The New Paper spoke to said they were unaware of his find as they were in class at the time.

The fingers are believed to be from the right hand of Muhammad Raihan Massba, who was attacked by four men with parangs at the void deck of Block 401, Bedok North Avenue 3 at 11.45pm onSunday.

The attack occurred less than a minute's walk from a fence that surrounds the school. It is not known how the fingers landed behind the fence.

Muhammad Raihan, 18, is believed to have used his right hand to defend himself when his attackers aimed for his face and severed his fingers. Berita Harian reported that Muhammad Raihan's mother, who did not want to be
named, said he and two friends were having dinner at Block 110, Bedok North Road that night.

She said Muhammad Raihan later received a telephone call from friends and went to Block 401 to meet them. When Muhammad Raihan did not return, his dinner companions went to look for him.

They found him unconscious and bloodied. She did not know why Muhammad Raihan was attacked. She described him as easy-going, with manyfriends.

Muhammad Raihan also suffered a fractured jaw from the attack. He was initially taken to Changi General Hospital and warded in its Surgical Intensive Care Unit. He was transferred to Singapore General Hospital yesterday.

When we visited him there, he was asleep andhis right hand was bandaged.

Police spokesman Danny Tan said a youth in his late teens was arrested on Wednesday in connection with an incident of voluntarily causing grievous hurt with a dangerous weapon. He said the youth was charged in court for
the offence yesterday.

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

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In the first incident at 4.30pm, four men arrived at Batu 31/2 in Cheras here and attacked M. Mahendran, 35, with a parang. The victim suffered cuts to his head and chest.

Mahendran was later taken to the Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia Hospital where he is understood to be in critical condition.

The suspects also abducted his mother and 8-year-old niece, who had witnessed the attack. The mother and niece were taken on a terror ride before the niece was abandoned at an undisclosed location.

Fortunately, a passer-by took her to the nearest police station. The mother was later dropped off at the Cheras police station. She was reported to be unharmed and lodged a police report before being reunited with her niece.

Two hours later at 6.30pm, the same four men are believed to have followed Mahendran's cousin, R. Govindan, 33, while he was on his way back to the Sri Johor flats.

The men, in a Toyota Camry, rammed the back of Govindan's motorcycle, causing him to fall. They then rushed out of the vehicle and began slashing him with a parang.

However, when their car stopped abruptly after ramming Govindan's motorcycle, an off-duty police detective following behind on his motorcycle crashed into the suspects' car.

Upon seeing the brutal attack, he alerted his colleagues before shouting at the suspects to stop their attack.

When they did not heed his warnings, he was forced to open fire. It is understood one of the suspects was hit in the leg while the other three fled.

Govindan succumbed to his injuries while the hurt suspect was taken into custody.

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

So how lionnoisy?

We never get shootings but got parang attacks...

u can know more of all parang cases in the past

few years by seraching

parang

paranging

par

sharp edge arms etc

maurizio13 SG

Actually parang attacks more violent.

It's easier to pull a trigger than to slash somebody with a parang.

parn SG

Summary

In Victoria of Australia,a state of about 5 million,

the average crime rate for

2006/2007 and 2007/2008 is 7,256/100,000 population.

ie (7327 + 7185)/2.

Compare with Singapore is 720/100,000,average for past 2 years.

That is,crime rate in Vic is 10 times of SG per 100,000 population.

Contents

Many forumers here critize SG but encounter no problems

from MOD.I sometimes face little problems like the thread deleted,

without explanations.The thread(s) are about Oz.

There are many formers here tell me take Oz as models in many aspects,

like military,democracy ,freedom,welfare,cheaper car /houses etc.

But i find seem she is not a good models.

I share things here which forumers dunt expect happen in Oz,

like serious drugs problems,frequent shootings(how many

of u know guns is legalised in Oz?10% populations possess guns.)

I was labelled to deter u guys migrating to Oz!!

Will i enjoy or suffer from your decision of migrations?

In fact,i am sharing with u somethings u should know before

u decide or lift your root in SG.i dunt want u have a culture shock.

Figures,perception and reality

U can say SG understate the crime rate.Figures can be cooked.

MY once say her crime rate is lower than SG.I leave u to decide

whose figures can be trusted.

One's perception to people,country dominate his decisions.

From long long time ago,one starts to form a perception of Oz.

from parents,peers,colleagues,friends,relatives....

But have one verify the info collected?

There is a great difference between taking Oz as a chit chat

topics and u need to decide for migrating there!!

U are the one enjoy or suffer from your decisions.

Besides,do the info provider has conflict of interest?

If u migrate there,there is one more potential buyer for

Oz property!!

At the end ,reality count.Just like some one never fall as

a victim of crimes in SG.But his frens was robbed twice in few years.

U can say fate determine.But this is a number game .

A matter of probability.Why very few wins in casino?

Number game,mates!!

In Victoria,a state of about 5 million,the average crime rate for

2006/2007 and 2007/2008 is 7,256/100,000 population.

ie (7327 + 7185)/2.

Compare with Singapore is 720/100,000,average for past 2 years.

http://www.spf.gov.sg/stats/stats2007_overview.htm

http://www.police.vic.gov.au/content.asp?a=internetBridgingPage&Media_ID=32668

Does it matter to you?U are the decision maker,Not me!!

Do i look blacken the name of Oz?

This is the facts,supported by Oz official figures .

I have told u many times when considering migration,u have to consider:

Costs and benefits and risks in

Economy--YOUR job opportunity,tax etc

Politics---the leaders' ability.Good things dunt come cheap!

Social---Be careful if u have/will have kids.Look out

for drugs,guns ,gangsters problems.

Dunt take for granted that other First World city is similiar

to SG!!This will be the most valuable info i can share.

Do more home works,mates.Dunt rely on others,

including your spouse!!

Migration is the biggest investment,opportunity and risk in your life.

more ref

http://www.abs.gov.au/Ausstats/[email protected]/Latestproducts/4510.0Main%20Features22007?opendocument&tabname=Summary&prodno=4510.0&issue=2007&num=&view=

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/Latestproducts/4509.1Media%20Release1Apr%202007?opendocument&tabname=Summary&prodno=4509.1&issue=Apr%202007&num=&view=

http://www.police.vic.gov.au/content.asp?Document_ID=829

good news.crime rates in Vic is dropping!!

Yes, please follow the yellow bricks road and kpkb to the Wizard of Oz.

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

Actually if you look at it, Singaporean criminals are more violent, brutal, and dangerous then those in Australia.

This is because our parang attacks involve interspecies violence that takes place at close range, hence it requires the attacker to be more brutal and violent as opposed to shooting from a distance.

Distance as a Psychological Weapon: Another key factor in overcoming the resistance to killing is distance, which has been partially addressed earlier. The utility of weapons that kill from a distance cannot be truly understood without understanding the psychological enabling aspect of distance, which, simply stated, means that the further away you are the easier it is to kill. Thus, dropping bombs from 20,000 feet or firing artillery from 2 miles away is, psychologically speaking, not at all difficult (and there is no indication of any noncompliance in these situations), but hand-to-hand combat and firing a rifle from 20 feet is very difficult (with high incidence of nonfirers) and from a few feet away it is virtually impossible to stab an opponent. John Keegan's landmark book The Face of Battle makes a comparative study of Agincourt (1415), Waterloo (1815), and the Somme (1916). In his analysis of these three battles spanning over 500 years, Keegan repeatedly notes the amazing absence of bayonet wounds incurred during the massed bayonet attacks at Waterloo and the Somme. At Waterloo Keegan notes that, "There were numbers of sword and lance wounds to be treated and some bayonet wounds, though these had usually been inflicted after the man had already been disabled, there being no evidence of the armies having crossed bayonets at Waterloo." By World War I edged-weapon combat had almost disappeared, and Keegan notes that in the Battle of the Somme, "edged-weapon wounds were a fraction of one per cent of all wounds inflicted in the First World War." Indeed, all evidence indicates that ancient battles were not much more than great shoving matches, until one side or the other fled. This can be observed in the battle record of Alexander the Great, who (according to Ardant du Picq's studies of ancient records) lost a total of approximately 700 men "to the sword" in all his battles put together, and this is simply because Alexander the Great always won, and the actual killing happened only to the losers after the battle (Fig. 1).

The only thing greater than the resistance to killing at close range is the resistance to being killed at close range. Close-range interpersonal aggression is the universal human phobia, which is why the initiation of midbrain processing is so powerful and intense in these situations. Thus, one limitation to killing at long range is that greater distance results in a reduced psychological effect on the enemy. This manifests itself in the constant thwarting of each new generation of air power advocates and other adherents of sterile, long-range, high-tech warfare and a constant need for close combat troops to defeat an enemy.

A slashing by parang is far more brutal and violent then shooting, as the attack has to reach a certain level of primal instinct and deny your humanity.

At least when you are shot at you can take cover, but a parang chasing you?

parn SG

It's ok, armed assault penalties are all going to be sentenced alot heavier soon.

stupidissmart SG

In case you're too lazy to click, here's the story.

This happens on the ASEAN Charter signing date, 20th November 2007.
A lady is going to Shangri-La Hotel, where the Charter is being signed, to meet her friend. On the way, the police stops her and asks her to leave, that being a protected area. Technically, it is LEGAL to pass that area to get to the Hotel, she's not loitering, but the police refuses to hear that, nor provide a reason.

In Part 2, the lady argues with a police officer on whether she should be allowed to pass. She gets arrested, and everywhere, people are passing that area, but are not being stopped. Finally, the cameraman steps in and challenges the police officers, accusing them of bullying a citizen of Singapore and ignoring the Singapore Pledge, which goes:

"We, the citizens of Singapore, pledge ourselves as one united people, Regardless of race, language or religion, to build a democratic society, based on justice and equality, so as to achieve happiness, prosperity and progress for our nation."

Not long after, the cameraman gets arrested as well, apparently for "disobeying a police officer's instructions", while the police officer still cannot come up with a valid reason on why of everyone, only the two of them are not allowed to pass. When they get arrested, a journalist is filming the police van, but she is not arrested or even stopped.

Soon after, when they are in the van, the policeman prevents him from using his phone, even though it's legal.

The twist is that the ASEAN Charter is meant to ensure the rights of humans within the ASEAN countries.

I felt the policemen had done the right thing here. Keep the important people in and intruders out. If they cannot stop such petty intruders out, then they have really failed in their job and the security is lax. Who knows wat is their intention here ? Do terrorist have the word terrorist printed on their forehead ? These 2 troublemakers should be thrown into lock up and no sympathy should be given to them. I am sad tat people actually complain about such clear cut case of troublemakers and support them.

Everybody here knows low crime is not no crime. No county in tis world can make crime rate goes to zero. Even batman or superman in a fiction story never succeed in keeping their city achieve zero crime. Listing out crime committed here and there is pointless because everyone knew and accepted tat crimes do occur. It is the rate of crime tat people r talking about.

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

It's too bad that while we can afford to not be lax on "potential troublemakers", we can be lax in more vital areas:

He checks in at Changi, clears immigration and gets on Tiger Airways jet to Vietnam  By Carolyn Quek

IN HIS hurry to catch a flight at Changi Airport's Budget Terminal yesterday morning, retiree Ang Heng Soon, 61, grabbed the wrong passport and left home.

He took his 39-year-old son's passport. They had left their passports on the dining table, because the son was also flying from Changi Airport.

The father's mistake, and how he cleared all security checks at the airport and flew to Vietnam, led to a long day for both.

Even with the wrong passport, Mr Ang first checked in at the Tiger Airways counter for his flight to Ho Chi Minh City, where he was headed for a six-day holiday.

He next got past the security check by Certis Cisco officers at the entrance to the restricted passenger area.

Then he ran into problems, failing repeatedly to scan his fingerprint at the immigration Automated Clearance System.

Noticing his difficulty, an Immigration and Checkpoints Authority officer directed him to a lane for manual clearance.

There, an officer cleared him to leave Singapore, and he boarded his plane.

Mr Ang told The Straits Times he realised his mistake only during the flight.

As soon as he arrived at the Ho Chi Minh City airport at 8.15am, he owned up to immigration authorities there and they put him on the same plane back to Singapore.

Around that time at Changi Airport's Terminal 1, his son Vincent, an electronics company sales and marketing executive, also discovered the mix-up.

He was waiting to check in for his flight to Hong Kong when he realised that he had his father's passport.

He cancelled his flight and went to Tiger Airways' office in the Budget Terminal, where he learnt that his father was heading back.

Father and son were reunited at close to noon. Both made fresh arrangements and flew off to their respective destinations later in the day, correct passports in hand.

By then, it was too late for Mr Vincent Ang to make it to his business meeting in Hong Kong.

Speaking to The Straits Times before catching his flight, he said: 'The question is, how did this happen? From a security point of view, this is pretty shocking.'

Responding to queries from The Straits Times, the Immigration and Checkpoints Authority confirmed that Mr Ang had cleared all the checks at the airport despite showing his son's passport.

In a statement late last night, it said that the immigration officer who looked at his passport and did the 'face-to-face verification' let him through because he bore a resemblance to the photo in the passport.

'The officer should not have relied only on this but should have checked Mr Ang's boarding pass with his passport,' a spokesman said.

'He should also have conducted a secondary biometric check to ascertain Mr Ang's identity. The fingerprint scans would have led to the positive identification of Mr Ang and that he was holding his son's passport.'

The spokesman apologised to Mr Ang for the inconvenience caused and said: 'ICA takes a serious view of such lapses.

'We will conduct a thorough investigation into the case. Appropriate disciplinary action will be taken against the officers responsible for the lapses.'

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

Even our minister is APPALLED and FLABBERGASTED!

Minister Wong’s statement:

‘I AM totally appalled and flabbergasted at this slip-up at the airport checkpoint.

The officers who failed to spot the discrepancy between the name in the man’s passport and on his boarding pass, will be taken to task.

But this will not be enough. I have been reminding officers of the need for vigilance repeatedly after each lapse of human error. Obviously the message is not sinking in deep enough to the last man.

I want all the heads of departments in the Home Team to directly take charge and step up checks to ensure vigilance on the ground at all levels and leave no room for complacency. They will have to do whatever it takes to get this going.

Just last week, I had directed the Ministry HQ’s Homefront Security Division to work with all the departments to review their security systems and processes. This may take time but we will get it done as soon as possible.

Meanwhile, all the heads of department will be calling up their subordinate commanders and managers and tightening scrutiny and supervision on the ground.

Each of the 26,000-plus officers in the Home Team has a sworn duty to do his or her job well. They deal with more than 350,000 people each day in the line of duty.

Mistakes will happen occasionally, but the Home Team has to keep these to the absolute minimum, especially where the potential consequences are extremely serious. They clearly cannot afford to be complacent, and must stay alert at all times.

There is no other way if they are to remain effective and not disappoint Singaporeans who put their trust in the Home Team to keep them safe. Any lapse by any department in the Home Team is a failure which all in the Home Team family must bear.’

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

Singapore’s Security Makes News Again!

The past year has seen an NSF going AWOL from camp with a SAR-21 rifle and live ammunition, a limping JI terrorist making a toilet break from custody, and an attempted breakout from the Subordinate Courts making headlines around the world.

A new addition to the fray, however, is a security lapse at Changi Airport, though thank goodness this did not arise as a result of a deliberate escapade. Interestingly, Singapore is so well-known for its security that this lapse even made the papers in Azerbaijan.

Here’s a quick recap of the story: Changi Airport - Security Passport Lapse

Deputy Prime Minister / Home Affairs Minister Wong Kan Seng is naturally, not a very happy man. It is difficult to foresee him actually being happy with the recent unfolding of events which has tarnished Singapore’s squeaky-clean reputation as a security-tight state.

Obviously, he should be taken to task for this (as well as the many lapses which occurred under his charge), instead of delegating the blame down the command chain and emerging relatively unscathed, which is probably akin to soldiers trying to fight a war with their commander retreating to his bunk and watching primetime television.

Have all calls against complacency and for utmost vigilance gone unheeded in the wake of the recent escapades? It remains to be seen the punishments which will be meted out for the airport officers, though some sackings and demotions will certainly be in the air.

Instead of talking about the “should have”s or “should have been”s, what next for the ICA? What will the “review” of the security systems and processes which DPM directed the Ministry HQ’s Homefront Security Division to front throw up?

These are definitely questions which have to be answered.

SingaporeTyrannosaur SG

how lionnoisy how?

can you save us from ourselves?

stupidissmart SG

Ahh.. U r right to say tat the security is lax in the passport case and probably some other cases. The home team really have to buck up here.

However tat doesn't mean the policemen r wrong in stopping the 2 people from intruding into the premise where many important officials from all countries r present.

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