Hypocritical west does it again:OSCE Vote On Nazi-USSR link

reyes SG

France and England hoped Germany would spark a shooting war with the Soviet Union and then they could sit back and watch the fascists and communists tear each other apart. It didn't work out that way...

i wish to draw a line between action and thoughts.

i believe that what france and england are hoping coz they are in midst of a recession. no one want a war in their own country. if they can nuetralise NAZI and stalin by not doing anything, what wrong with that? would it be better than draggin g the whole europe into it?

In time of crisis, such action is justify and necessary to save it own ppl ass and possibily good for the rest of europe and world.

If pearl harbour was not bomb, would united states enter war with Nazi germany and Jpn so soon? after the war they are deem to be liberators of the world. Is american entering the war for its own agenda or liberation of the world? in the end , they achieve both, the greater good, so no one mention about their hidden agenda.

Most singapore know PAP are ruling with iron fist. but singaporeans still vote for them. becoz they can give what singaporeans need. thus after weighing pros and cons, singaporean voet them election in , election out. singaporeans aint that stupid. but ppl make a choice after weighing their options.

Ah Chia SG

Most singapore know PAP are ruling with iron fist. but singaporeans still vote for them. becoz they can give what singaporeans need.

Fear, propaganda, repression, brainwashing, also plays a huge role.

It plays a great role.

Singaporeans, in general, are a fearful people. They are afraid to express their views and do not have any opinion. They are afraid to take any risk or face the consequences. They prefer other people to decide for them.

For several decades, they are afraid that their vote in a general election is not secret. They are afraid that they will lose their job or will get into trouble with government officials, if they are found to have voted for a party other than the party in power.

They are afraid to be sued for defamation, if they were to make any statement that is unfavourable to people in power. They are quite naïve about their rights to free and honest expression.

After many years of living in fear, they learn to withdraw from society. They do not wish to express any opinion publicly, but they will vent their anger in the coffee shops or in anonymous internet forums.

They learn not to get involved in any issue of public interest. They learned to take care only of their personal interest. If they are adversely affected, they will shout and expect other people to help them. But, they will not come forward to help other people.

https://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcqjz7c8_222fjqrs5f5&hl=en

Atobe SG

i wish to draw a line between action and thoughts.

In time of crisis, such action is justify and necessary to save it own ppl ass and possibily good for the rest of europe and world.

The PAP continue their grip on political power by making it as difficult as possible for the full participation by a registered electorate of over 2,039,748 Singaporeans.

In Election 2006, only 1,222,884 eligible voters were able to cast their ballot - which represented only 59.95 per cent of the registered list, while the remaining sat at home unable to participate.

When the PAP count of 747,860 votes received is placed on a registered list of 2,039,748 Singaporeans - this represent only 36.66 per cent of the electorate.

Is this representative of Singaporean support ?

Can this be any mandate from the people ?

When bigger countries with larger population than Singapore - such as Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand and the USA - can have almost 80 per cent of their population participating in the Election Process, why has Singapore exclude almost half of her population from the process ?

This make clear nonsense the propaganda that the PAP claims that the Alternative Political Parties are not capable to put candidates to contest in all the constituencies.

Singapore is only a Little Red Dot, that is smaller than New York City, yet it has more Members of Parliament - (with more Town Mayors) - then New York City with only one Mayor who is paid far less and able to do more.

reyes SG

i am never a PAP supporters. i understand what atobe and ah chia are writing about. singaporeans do know we are repress, suppress, and ruling with iron fist. why do they still win evert election. my mom is more concern with cleaniness of the living area than politics. my sister is more concern with her rice bowl as she is civil servant. my good friends are more concern about soccer than who running temasek. i mean singaporeans are fine tune to such a extend to the propaganda of the PAP that we are not concern with who run the country. and many of my uni grads friends think NTUC is a subwing of PAP. sad isnt it?

reyes SG

in a war, the winners decide how the history should be written.

i think it is a good information to learnt what ah chia is trying to say, but eventually, the good guys win. the good guys are the allies. how they achieve it and fail during the process become sideshow.

Atobe SG

It is sad that LKY will leave behind a legacy of a population that no longer has the fire in the belly to be involved in politics.

Can such a Citizen have the fire to stand-up for Singapore ?

Can a Singaporean have the tenacity of an Iraqi to stand-up to fight against any foreign occupation in the same manner that the Iraqis stood-up to fight a war of insurgency against the foreigners who occupied their land ?

LKY has left behind a legacy of Singaporeans whom he has "filled their bellies and dull all the minds" - as he had set out to do from the beginning, so as to make his own job easier without any interfering challenge from anyone.

You should reconsider your statement - "many of my uni grads friends think NTUC is a subwing of PAP. sad isnt it?" Why should this be a sad event ?

Do you not believe that the situation to be true ?

in a war, the winners decide how the history should be written.

Do you not think that it depends on which side of the fence you are standing on to decide who are your allies ?

According to Ah Chia - the other side may not necessarily be the bad side, and the winning side is not necessarily the good side.

Are you certain that you understand what Ah Chia is writing ?

According to him - the good guys are not necessarily the Allies, and the events that have occurred were all fixxed by the "good guys" - who were as bad as the "bad guys" - or that the "bad guys" are actually the "good guys".

Confused ?

I am not surprised if you are, when history is being re-written and turned on its head.

It will be sad if you believe that the process of winning and failing becomes a sideshow.

You must appreciate that history is not a mere recording of events, and for anyone not to repeat the mistakes and learn from history, it is important to learn the process that occurred and which resulted in the winning or failed outcome.

What you have preferred to term as "the sideshow" - is actually the Main Event.

Ah Chia SG

but eventually, the good guys win. the good guys are the allies.

I don't see any good guys or bad guys, there are only interests.

reyes SG

Confused ?

I am not surprised if you are, when history is being re-written and turned on its head.

if allies are not the good guys who are? himmlers and hitlers, mosolini? eventually it was the allies who got rid of the axis. well some sacrifice along the way, so be it.

history are written by ppl who had won it. i am not sure about the motive of the ppl who try to re-written it. maybe just to prove a pt here and there but , i guess it dont serve any good.

reyes SG

as i said i am never a supporter of the PAP but sometimes you have to accept that majority always win. singaporeans whether like LKY or PAP still vote for them.

maybe you try other ways to prove your pt or change singaporeans mindset.

reyes SG

don't see any good guys or bad guys, there are only interests.

any wars will have interest, but the greater good the allies restore peace to the world. at least the war stop.

Ah Chia SG

if allies are not the good guys who are?

No good guys only interests. That is my view.

eventually it was the allies who got rid of the axis.

They were also the ones who connived with them at first.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allie

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