singapore stance on sexuality: totally confused

last SG · 2009-05-19T01:17:31+00:00

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xtreyier SG

Have you questioned your definition of 'natural'? Homosexuality occurs to a minority of people, and that is why the human race isn't going to die out. Why are you pushing so hard to protect the conservative definition of family when it is just a construct of history, and certainly not the only model that exists? And freedom to engage in any kind of sexual activity isn't what is being asked for.

What had been the bedrock of stability for our civlisation of 6000 years to grow? If you are unaware, it had been the family, the union of a male and female with their progeny to tap, cultivate and enhance the meaning of gift of life that had been bestowed upon us on this beautiful planet, either by a higher being of the religious minded or products of the big bang theory suscribed by evolutionists.

It had lead to the evolution of our species, the masters of Earth, and more critically the continuity of mankind, despite its flaws but had come with joys you and I can experience today.

Therefore, what is the defination of natural? It can only be that which had kept mankind and civilisation alive, although higher intellectuals will still argue with more definations. To simple people like you and me, it can only mean traditions that had kept us forward in life instead of regression.

Homosexuality may occurs with a minority of people, but like the swine virus, it will spread if not contained, espacially when they become more vocal and demanding in our liberal age. Are we to just stand back and let them grow destroy the family and thus civilisation itself?

Be a homosexual by all means, they too are humans, with a right to live, but they must not be encouraged nor supported, no matter how liberal we may become, or we will be the ones staring at our eventual demise as a civilisation.

Herzog_Zwei SG

They talking about animals or humans?

Animals eat their own babies also normal you know.

Cannibalism is also normal in anthropology.

stupidissmart SG

It had lead to the evolution of our species, the masters of Earth, and more critically the continuity of mankind, despite its flaws but had come with joys you and I can experience today.

U know there r homosexuals from the distant past till now and human civilisation still progresses. Do u really think one day all human will become homosexual ? Nobody is asking all people become homosexual but just realise they exist and let them be and do the things they want privately. However people r not letting them do even tat by implementing 377A

Homosexual activity to me is clearly unnatural, not natural.

So you consider homosexual activity to be natural?

Why not ? U got science to back up your claim ? Recent studies shows there is a genetic reason behind homosexual and tis gene can help women to reproduce better. Wat reason do u have to say it is not unnatural ?

Stevenson101 SG

Homosexual is certainly not natural.

They may have their rights, but to declare homosexual as "natural" conduct is certainly wrong.

It must be disapproved, not approved.

Considering that Homosexuality itself is incapable of passing its gene on through the next generation, yet we have seen it happening in every time and age, in every major civilisation.

One would think we all carry that possibility in all of us.

jojobeach SG

Masturbation is disgusting, un-natural and has no purpose in procreation.

We need to ban it.. and set up a penal code to deal with offenders.

If we do not ban it... Humanity shall cease to exist.

Ah Chia SG

Wat reason do u have to say it is not unnatural?

male and female engage in sex I consider natural.

male and male or female and female I consider unnatural.

The cultures of the three major ethnic groups in Singapore; chinese, malay and tamil also consider this to be so.

Which society considers homosexual acts to be natural?

Stevenson101 SG

male and female engage in sex I consider natural.

male and male or female and female I consider unnatural.

The cultures of the three major ethnic groups in Singapore; chinese, malay and tamil also consider this to be so.

Which society considers homosexual acts to be natural?

I don't really think the Chinese has specific teachings in the culture that deals with homosexuality. It's frowned upon, but nothing that really explains it or dealing with it. Don't make blanket statements like that.

The problem has never been whether it is natural, the fact is that homosexuals exist. They would not vanish with a snap of the fingers simply because we made conscious efforts to tell ourselves they don't.

jojobeach SG

male and female engage in sex I consider natural.

male and male or female and female I consider unnatural.

The cultures of the three major ethnic groups in Singapore; chinese, malay and tamil also consider this to be so.

Which society considers homosexual acts to be natural?

Having sex with your right hand consider natural or not har ? Very confused.

Ah Chia SG

It's frowned upon

That right.

It considered unnatural or immoral.

They would not vanish with a snap of the fingers simply because we made conscious efforts to tell ourselves they don't.

They should have their rights.

But declare homo as natural should be off limits.

Taboo.

Like incest.

Taboo.

You can't go and declare incest is correct and natural.

stupidissmart SG

U know wat is definition of natural ? It means it is existing and formed by natural from the definitino of dictionary. Animals did tis, human did tis from all its history and science shows it may be due to a gene.The cultures of ethnic groups did not think tis is unnatural because your understanding of natural is wrong.Someone is right to point out the difference between "natural" and "normal". U have no right to state homosexual is not natural

Ah Chia SG

Having sex with your right hand consider natural or not har ? Very confused.

I don't consider that sex.

Stevenson101 SG

That right.

It considered unnatural or immoral.

They should have their rights.

But declare homo as natural should be off limits.

Taboo.

Like incest.

Taboo.

You can't go and declare incest is correct and natural.

It has existed through the milleniums, despite the fact that there's no way for it to reproduce itself into future generation.

Whether you like it or not, they continue to exist. Whether you like it or not, they will continue to exist. Since they exist, they have to be part of a natural process whether we like it or not.

Ah Chia SG

The cultures of ethnic groups did not think tis is unnatural because your understanding of natural is wrong.Someone is right to point out the difference between "natural" and "normal".

Depends on your point of view.

Are you looking at the issue from the biological view or cultural view?

For example polygamy.

From biology view men take many wifes is considered advantage as it helps to spread the seeds.

But from cultural view some consider it immoral, while others it is normal.

Stevenson101 SG

I don't consider that sex.

It fulfills no natural imperative and has no role to play in the passing down of genetic materials.

Thus, it is unnatural no?

Impotent couples are genetically useless to the human race, should we consider them unnatural?

stupidissmart SG

I think u r mixing up incest and homosexual. We r talking abnout homosexual and bringing in beatiality and incest is out of point. If u wanna bring extreme examples, then talking about religion is about religious fanatics, violent cults and terrorism and therefore should be banned as well.

Ah Chia SG

Since they exist, they have to be part of a natural process whether we like it or not.

Not sure about that argument.

Human are born with many defects, like albino, six fingers etc.

Those are not considered natural from biological point of view.

Ah Chia SG

It fulfills no natural imperative and has no role to play in the passing down of genetic materials.
Thus, it is unnatural no?

But it's not sex wah.

stupidissmart SG

Albino, six fingers etc r natural because they exist in natural. Computer is not natural but man made because it is not found in natural. U know wat is natural now ?

udontknowme SG

Not sure about that argument.

Human are born with many defects, like albino, six fingers etc.

Those are not considered natural from biological point of view.

we came up with the idea that such 'defects' are not 'normal', that they are defects. whether something is 'normal' or 'not-normal' is 'made up' by humans...as is the idea of what is 'natural' or not...

Ah Chia SG

U know wat is natural now ?

Okay.

But which culture considers male and male having sex to be normal or natural?

The ancient greeks perhaps?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Greece

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