Wiping out the root of terrorism

last SG · 2008-12-01T18:58:29+00:00

You are barking up the wrong tree......If you look closely, the root cause of terrorism, is simple.The root cause is always, territorial, nationalistic, poli...

RoyFang SG

You want to turn the world Islamic and you kill people? How does that help you?

They want the attention, so they restort to killing people. It's the most effective way to get our attention isn't it?

freedomclub SG

They just want attention? Arent there many other ways to do that besides killing people? I thought the common perception of Islamic terrorists is that they want to conquer the world for Allah.

I didnt know "conspiracy theorists" were terrorist sympathisers. Guess the ISD has a lot of work to do.

googoomuck SG

There is a misconception that the ordinary Iraqis are worse off after the American and her allies liberated the Iraqis from Saddam's clutches.

From a report in March 2007, a survey of 5,000 Iraqis indicates:

One in four Iraqis has had a family member murdered. In Baghdad, the capital, one in four has had a relative kidnapped and one in three said members of their family had fled abroad.

But when asked whether they preferred life under Saddam, the dictator who was executed on 30 December 2006, or under Nouri al-Maliki, the prime minister, most replied that things were better for them today.

Only the Iraqis who are so desperate for disasters in Iraq are worse off today.

No Iraqi will miss Saddam except those who benefited under his brutal rule.

freedomclub SG

Oh really?

Iraq today with no clean water, no electricity, no employment, rampant disease and crime, bombings, pollution, kidnappings, sectarian civil war, desperation is better than under an authoritarian and secular Saddam Hussein?

googoomuck SG

Oh really?

Blame the insurgents and the remnants of the Baath Party for the destruction of infrastructures, for instilling fear in the people. Don't blame the Americans.

freedomclub SG

The only 'insurgents' in Iraq are only those that are fighting against a foreign occupying power. Of course the Western-dominated media portrays them as terrorists.

As for the Baath Party, those secular Arabs were more capable of securing order than the fundamentalists running around now.

Having seen how the British purposely incites violence by having commandoes dressed as Arabs and driving explosives around and bringing in tanks to bust them out after they're caught, and also the Pentagon's P2OG, is testament to the chaos which the occupying powers have caused.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2005-09-19-british-basra_x.htm

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/DK05Ak02.html

googoomuck SG

The only 'insurgents' in Iraq are only those that are fighting against a foreign occupying power. Of course the Western-dominated media portrays them as terrorists.

As for the Baath Party, those secular Arabs were more capable of securing order than the fundamentalists running around now.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2005-09-19-british-basra_x.htm

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/DK05Ak02.html

Of course the Baath Party can secure order - by brutal force !

How many Iraqis who had suffered under Saddam's rule would want to see the Baath party return to power? I can think of only his cronies. The Kurds and the Shias certainly don't want the return of those days under Saddam.

freedomclub SG

Of course I dont think well of Saddam's brutality. But what about those two of the many atrocities committed by the Western forces?

Did you even see that? Or do you think they're "conspiracy theories"?

googoomuck SG

Of course I dont think well of Saddam's brutality. But what about those two of the many atrocities committed by the Western forces?

Did you even see that? Or do you think they're "conspiracy theories"?

What atrocities by the western forces?

freedomclub SG

Having seen how the British purposely incites violence by having commandoes dressed as Arabs and driving explosives around and bringing in tanks to bust them out after they're caught, and also the Pentagon's P2OG, is testament to the chaos which the occupying powers have caused.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2005-09-19-british-basra_x.htm

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/DK05Ak02.html

Besides that, American use of DU in Iraq has caused cancer rates to increase more than 1000%.

Fuelling the civil war (see above) which has caused more than a million deaths and displacing more than 4 million Iraqis.

Mercs like Blackwater indiscriminately kill civilians, bring weapons into Iraq and oops, lose them.

Right...you dont fix something if you break it.

googoomuck SG

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2005-09-19-british-basra_x.htm

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/DK05Ak02.html

Besides that, American use of DU in Iraq has caused cancer rates to increase more than 1000%.

Fuelling the civil war (see above) which has caused more than a million deaths and displacing more than 4 million Iraqis.

Mercs like Blackwater indiscriminately kill civilians, bring weapons into Iraq and oops, lose them.

Right...you dont fix something if you break it.

You seems to post only links to alleged US 'atrocities' in Iraq but mentioned none of the gruesome nature in which the insurgents and the Arab civilians acted.

Since you mentioned blackwater indiscriminately killed civilians, I'll give just one example here, of how the Blackwater mercenaries were treated. Some civilians were not innocent as you would like to have people think. They are Sunni Arabs.

freedomclub SG

This is a country at war. I dont deny the horrible things that the Iraqis commit against Western forces. Killing cannot be whitewashed by any euphemisms, even fighting against an occupying forces.

But you seem to think that the US is a beacon of freedom and democracy in Iraq. DU is a serious problem, not a conspiracy theory. 1500-2000 tons were vapourised into the air when DU bombs landed on Iraq during Shock and Awe. Similar weaponry were used in Kosovo and spread radioactivity across Yugoslavia. Isn't that just like using nukes?

freedomclub SG

What do you mean alleged? Those things really happened. Do you claim otherwise?

RoyFang SG

They just want attention? Arent there many other ways to do that besides killing people? I thought the common perception of Islamic terrorists is that they want to conquer the world for Allah.

I didnt know "conspiracy theorists" were terrorist sympathisers. Guess the ISD has a lot of work to do.

Did I say they just want attention?

Which sentence, which line?

I said they want attention fullstop.

They want attention to let the world know they are the people who are going to conquer Islamic world, and also to ask their their fellow followers to join them.

If not, why would they video taped the bombing of the Buddhist statues?

Guess someone is the watchdog for ISD in here...better be careful.

freedomclub SG

If they already have "fellow followers", why do they even need to convince anyone?

If you want to persuade someone to join your cause, do you go around killing people? I wouldn't.

I'm flattered.

RoyFang SG

If they already have "fellow followers", why do they even need to convince anyone?

If you want to persuade someone to join your cause, do you go around killing people? I wouldn't.

I'm flattered.

Not fellow followers of the terrorist, but the Muslim faith.

Just because you're a member of a group, doesn't it mean that you will 100% do whatever the group wants to do?

They want to convince those Muslims, who refuse to join their so-called "Jihad" that they are the "good" guys and the people on the other side are the "bad" guys.

Did I say it's the only way? Or did I say it's the most effective way to them?

freedomclub SG

I'm waiting to get an email or even a flyer soliciting people to join in Jihad against the West.

freedomclub SG

I might add, Jihad against the West so as to give Western governments a pretext to accumulate more police powers over their citizens.

googoomuck SG

This is a country at war. I dont deny the horrible things that the Iraqis commit against Western forces. Killing cannot be whitewashed by any euphemisms, even fighting against an occupying forces.

As if the use of biological and chemical weapons on enemies - both soldiers and civilians - by Saddam's army is not serious enough to mention.

It's no secret that the US has DU ammo in it's arsenal. Any country that wants to go to war with the US army must have known this.

freedomclub SG

Yeah I mentioned that he used them on the Kurds and the Iranians. But who sold them to him? The US. France built Saddam's nuclear program. I'm not saying who has the higher moral ground, all parties involved are scum.

Similarly, if you know that the US is using DU munitions, that spread high levels of radioactivity round the world, scarring the Iraqi population, is it even humane?

We always focus on the leaders, while the ordinary people suffers.

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