As I said, the idea of a NWO is not a conspiracy. The movement
that is pushing for a NWO like the Bilderbergers are, the very
hidden nature of their meeting marks them as a "conspiracy". And
that separates them from other political lobbies. You are right to
say that there are small political movements that have their own
agenda. In my first post, I explained how this globalist group, in
engineering WWI, WWII and the Cold War (in fact most 20th Century
wars) intentionally created conflict to get the change they wanted-
global organisations- rooted in the UN.
About 1 of your earlier posts, you discredited this movement
just because I was able to mix some quotes in with facts.
Quotes are themselves a kind of source.
Let's assume that we have two people; 1 of them David Rockefeller
and some unknown guy in a forum. David Rockefeller is quoted
verbatim as saying "The supranational sovereignty of an
international elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the
national auto-determination practiced in past centuries." in
addition to the admission that he made in his Memoirs. Now, compare
the thrust of his message to the forum guy who says "horseshit" in
response to it. While the forum-guy is a nobody, unconnected to the
highest echelons of politics, Rockefeller wields uncanny political
and economic power in the US and round the world, who definitely
has a clear understanding of the trends taking place today, and has
the guts or audacity to admit this plan of the elites. Who would
anyone believe? I'm sure its clear.
If it were so secret, why is the Internet filled with
"NWO/Illuminati" (a very sweeping term) information? Because its
the Internet. Unlike our controlled media, the Internet allows
freedom of information and expression. Surely that does not mean
that any "conspiratorial" information found on the Internet is the
result of some "crackpot". It is precisely because the Internet
gives people the power to spread information alongside huge news
corporation (net neutrality) that information about this conspiracy
can be spread. Of course, as you pointed out, you can find almost
anything on the Net. Am I asking you to believe everything you
read? No. Any rational person will first examine the evidence,
verify it and form his own conclusion.
Now, you like to use "NWO/Illuminati" implying that the
conspiracy is made absurb by the involvement of some occult group.
However, the notion of "Illuminati" is so vague and distorted by
pop-culture that its real significance has been lost. The
Illuminati connection to the NWO is simply: In 1776, an
intellectual group called the Illuminati (the enlightened ones) was
set up in Bavaria (in present-day Germany). Their goal was to
eradicate the nationalist form of government in Europe and dominate
the world. Big ambitions for people in a technology-less world in
the 18th Century. However, their plans were leaked and the Baravian
authority cracked down on them and the group fragmented. But people
still link the NWO and the Illuminati because of the similarity of
the concepts involved. Of course, if one is curious, there are
occult connections behind major corporate-political powers, such as
the Skull and Bones secret society and the Bohemian Club.
If you're so uncomfortable with the word "conspiracy", then I
won't use it. The very development in the present geopolitical
realm of "progressive regionalisation" (Brezesinki) is a foretaste
of a world government. Think about it, the old world order just
means the world order that has lasted about 350-400 years after the
peace of Westphalia, aka, the age of nationalism. Thus, the
new world order simply means a new alignment of power
around internationalism. That is why politicians are having a field
day with words like "new world order", "global village", and
"globalism". I admit it is too impulsive to connect them with a
conspiracy just because of those words, but the trend is clear.
From independent countries, they merge to give sovereignty to a
regional bloc like the EU, and before long, it is evitable that
these blocs will merge to form some kind of world government.
Look at yourself, you Google and Youtube the phrase
"NWO/Illuminati" and assume that everyone of them talks about the
same thing. As if there are no disinformation campaigns or people
talking about an alien conspiracies (the "greys", on which I'm not
as arrogant to dismiss them, but I don't read about) to sift out
from the truth. If there isn't a hidden agenda, then why is the
Bilderberg so secretive about their meetings? Why has the EU
leadership so resolved about total European integration even when
their people (the Irish) have refused to give up their sovereignty?
Is this not a organised effort to build a global government? Its
not conspiracy theories, rather conspiracy facts. And "facts do not
cease to exist because they are ignored" (Aldous Huxley). Since
you're so apt at this, by all means, show me the illogicality of my
reasoning and deconstruct them.
Now how about a game. Which conspiracy crackpot said this:
"We shall have world government whether or not you like it. The
only question is whether world government will be achieved by
conquest or consent."
If you guessed Alex Jones, you were wrong. It was said before a
Senate committee by James Warburg in 1950.
"The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a
one-world government combining super-capitalism and Communism under
the same tent, all under their control. Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I
do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope,
generations in planning and incredibly evil in intent."
If you guessed Ron Paul, you were wrong. Quote from Congressman
Larry McDonald.
"The 'house of world order' will have to built from the bottom
up rather than the top down. It will look like a great 'booming,
buzzing confusion', ... but an end run around national
sovereignty eroding it piece by piece, will
accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal assault."
(emphasis added) -Richard Gardner, in "The Hard Road to World
Order", 1974.
Gardner was the US Ambassador to the UN, Italy and Spain not to
mention deputy secretary of state for international organisation
affairs as well as other important political posts. Are you calling
him a "crackpot"?
Last one,
"The powers of financial capitalism [this is where corporate
globalisation comes in] had another far-reaching aim, nothing less
than to create a world system of financial control able to
dominate the political system of each country and the economy of
the world as a whole." (emphasis added) -Professor Carrol
Quigley [Georgetown University], in "Tragedy and Hope", 1966
Let me say again, quotes are sources,
depending on the person from whom you quote from. From these
sources, one gets the impression that there is a movement to create
a world government. But it is not an open movement, but a hidden
one, one that excludes citizens from the discussion where only
corporate-political elites have a say in.
Let me end with a quote from a fictitious character since you
think that the NWO movement is a pile of "bullshit".
"Do you want to know what it is? The Matrix is everywhere. Even
now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out the window
or when you turn on the television. You can feel it when you go to
work, when you go to church, when you pay your taxes. It is the
world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the
truth."
