No welfare means no tax or low tax govt, look at our taxes

last SG · 2008-06-22T19:14:52+00:00

DeerHunter,I would like to hear your explanation about natural resources.Have you admitted defeat to me again? Thank you. I go get dinner.

robertteh SG

No welfare, no subsidy means no tax or low tax as government in a non-welfare state spends less or little on its people.

Is the government telling the truths about its so-called subsidy on public housing?

Is the government telling the truths about its deficits in raising GST from 5% to 7% in 2007 ?

If it is not so accurate in telling people about such matter as deficits or surpluses or subsidy in public housing etc, do the ministers have the moral authority to call themselves world's best or call any citizens liars for questioning their NKF practices of hoarding donations and underspending public donations on kidney patients.

Judge Belinder should decide her case on CSJ based on such vital facts as stated in the foregoing before she decides who is the party telling lies - whether the government is telling lies in NKF or CSJ in questioning NKF over the lies told in that case prior to SPH/NKF suit, should now be guilty of telling lies.

Elephant18 SG

Mr Robert teh,

you have misjudged the singapore govt. I am a PAP member serving at one of the branches. What the govt is doing is for the benefit of the citizens of singapore. The figures you have given is right. there is no other govt in the world which spoon feed their population. take for eg china. The communist govt has not made efforts to erradicate the corruption ot poverty. The govt is fond of many propaganda including Taiwan issue always embarking on taking over the island by force constant threats.

In dia for eg. None of the politicians are educated and care only for their pockets. the mass of population is isolated. Poverty,corruption,crimes e.t.c are all on the rise no action is taken the law is not stringent.

you have to be gifted to live in a safe economy like sigapore and thank the govt for taking care of each and every citizen. Unlike other countries singaproe do not possess any natural resources to substitute one source for another. 90% of the products are imported from rice, to water, electricity.vegetables e.t.c. as for your 1st statement. Taxes is based on your annual income not welfare and subsidies. this so called welfare and subsidies is to cushion singaporeans from the globla warming. Many lower income groups are encountering difficulties in family management., savings e.t.c. at present situation due to rising cost of oil and other products including raw materials everyone living working in singapore is affected so govt provides subsidy to those in need. recently govt announced subsidy of inflation bonus followed by usinons which is providing between $100 to $1000. This includes all singapore citizens and PR. Others not included. though the govt increased the GST to 7% they are providing some incentive to all singaproeans to survive. The govt has embarked on foreign investment to boost the Singapore Economy so the the Deficit is prevalent everyone is affected by the GST rise bowever it is anticipated over the past 5yrs. In fact in teh next 10 yrs the economy is expected to grow and also the cost of living. No doubt singapore has become more expensive the govt has taken measures to protect its citizens. Nobody is neglected. the singapore govt is making the right move.

zaxis SG

will it be good, if allow all welfare beneficiary aka public assistance receipants travel FOC on public transport? do you think our government can do it?

will it be good to do away our 7% GST now, since so many price increase, can government do lead by action,

we will see if all hawker centre price will it go down or remain high?

report any over price! stop buying over price! see if they can survive !

all minister & member of parliment take minimum transportation token,

e.g. RC chairman, represent in town council S$300.00 per month.

what about other RC member? they do volunteer their time in RC activities, but how many pay same amount as participants? they enjoy FOC events!

other participants eat lunch / dinner bento box, RC members eat buffet style with MP.

although RC chairman or RC member cannot particpate in lucky draw, but participant goodie bag, participant take one, RC members take more than one from balance quantity.

you may say PAP , PA , CCC, RC all different.

alwaysdisturbed SG

what about cutting taxes on fuel?

robertteh SG

Mr Robert teh,

Your reply is very typical of the kind of responses the government has been often giving to people's criticisms of its many wrong policies NKF type of hoarding being only the tip of the iceberg.

This kind of response can be summarized as "Counter-criticism by selective comparisons by quoting worse case scenarios in other countries to diverse from relevant issues"

Why don't you just reply to the key points in my posts instead of diverting to intentions of government or selectively quoting worse cases elsewhere to avoid answering to relevant issues.

I have written to MPs recently of my proposals to review the constitution to avoid GRC type of tweaking of laws to serve incumbent party's own interest, ministerial salary issue, wrongful acquisition of land as seen in the Geylang Land acquired for 20 years without being put to intended public use.

All that I get is a reply from one MP who merely repeated what the Minister of Law has said that there existed appeal process for hearing of grievances. If Ministers are truly interested to work for the people, who are their real paymasters and not MM or PM, such a thing as MPs speaking up only for establishment or minister's view will not happen.

So you can see that the MPs are no longer bringing up real problems and issues to the parliament and are just merely digits to legitimise the narrow agendas of a few in power which are no longer for the benefits of majority of citizens.

This kind of governing cannot be for the benefits of the people like you mentioned.

Look at how leaders call oppositions lies when ministers are not keeping to their promises as happened in introductions of COE, ERP posted in other threads.

Before the leaders start suing the oppositions or anyone they have to ensure their ministers are keeping to promises as mentioned in other thread. If the ministers cannot then when oppositions start criticising them there is no justification to go to court to sue such people for telling lies.

We need a caring government which will be governing keeping their promises and governing from the larger perspective of serving the reasonable expectations or needs of the people.

Otherwise our leaders do not have the morality to govern the people.

Without morality the rule of laws leaders are always talking about will be empty slogans.

As grassroot people, or Member of PAP, I do hope you will be able to offer some assistance and play a useful role and not be only yes-man to earn your own favors but will bring up real issues and problems to the MPs and seek change.

zaxis SG

5 W's 1 H

always its is easy to name all 5 W's

but when come to 1 H, it is not easy.

pin point problem, who also konw, solution not easy, if it is "fire fighting solution" usually, if no life & death, people usually forget about the situation.

ilegal worker or working with social visit visa,

ICA will "cut & paste replied" they are legal to enter our island,

MOM will "cut & paste replied" we had caught some many during x number Ex.

why still so many?

all wearing ship yard working uniform @ woodlands ICA check point? fashion? all smelly the better? must have grease on uniform is hip hop fashion?

puttting up plastic signature outside private house main gate "Beware of Dog" who know it could be cats inside the house.

since they know geylang has prositute problem, send more police, go round and round the area. get police to station there, or install monitor TV above lamp post there.

duty-unpaid problem! how these can come onto the island? what our checkpoint people doing? propose to deduct their pay check according to amount seize during Ex. people buying duty-unpaid get to pay fine, get checkpoint people name list too, who ever get caught & fine, those on the checkpoint name list has to pay 50% too. can Q checkpoint people name accordingly. these duty-unpaid cannot be drop from SKY.

DeerHunter SG

No welfare, no subsidy means no tax or low tax as government in a non-welfare state spends less or little on its people.

Is the government telling the truths about its so-called subsidy on public housing?

Is the government telling the truths about its deficits in raising GST from 5% to 7% in 2007 ?

Do get off your moral highhorse and face up to reality for once, please. For all your high flaunting moralism, you yourself have proven no morals of your own at all with your latest post! I will show you why.

I insinuate you here and now that you misappropriated funds from your company. Please show and prove that you didn't, starting with your savings in Primary School till today, your past budgets, your salaries, your bank accounts, assets, and whatnots.

Please also hire lawyers to sort out the legalities, and authorised independent auditors to clarify all your statements of accounts. You bear all costs and your time as well.

Do so please.

I sit here, shaking my leg, and await for your clarification. In the meantime, i will continue to tell others that you robertteh, has mismanage your company funds and even embezzled them.

reyes SG

i had to agree that this is another PAP typical response more than often divert the key issue.

If u r working in one of their branches how do you know much about china? base on CNN? BBC? CNA? isnt that a view of a toad living in the wells?

i freq to china for busines trip. the china govt arent as bad as what you painted. try not to judge china by tibet lamas uprising, they are the minority case, there are heaps of minority in yunan province as well, though not all are rich and happy, at least the had a land to cultivate their crops and no ppl are dying of hunger.

DO you think your PAP govt has done their best to help the ppl of singapore during the current uncertain state of the economy and ever rising cost of living and inflation?

Has the govt the lead to reduce their expenditure or expenditure of the ministeries expenses so that more money can be save and diverted to help the needy.

you tell me what is the nos of the 60 unions company that benefitted the one time paid off of inflation bonus? 40,000? maybe 90% of singaporeans dont get any at all.

please address some of the question posted by robert teh and challenge him or any of opposition policy head on. i hope your posting dont stop at nos 3.

DeerHunter SG

Please also hire lawyers to sort out the legalities, and authorised independent auditors to clarify all your statements of accounts. You bear all costs and your time as well.

Do so please.

I sit here, shaking my leg, and await for your clarification. In the meantime, i will continue to tell others that you robertteh, has mismanage your company funds and even embezzled them.

Robertteh,

What i had done is just a simple experiment to show up how deluded and ignorant you are!

The very basic rule for justice to be given is Conformity to truth, fact, or sound reason - simply put - evidence/evidences. In that experiment, i had no evidence to prove you are an embezzler, and instead, made you do all the work to prove your innocence. There is no justice system that will allow me to be succeed, for i have no evidence of your wrongdoing except heresay, and the damage to you would have been complete to the eyes of your peers and society by the despicable act i had done.

What you had done in your post is to accuse the govt of wrong doings, of not being honest. Do you have any proof? None, except your own disbelief.

Such a simple concept of 'evidence' that even a village idiot would know, you had proven here you don't even know or understand. How can others take you seriously in your numerous posts on realitistic administrative matters?

Time and time again, the govt post out data in the media, their websites and hard copies obtainable from their ministries. You can always check it up. But yet, you failed to do so, and claim or insinuate they are lying.

There is a difference between criticism and slandering. Which one are you standing on to support your insinuations? This is not a diversion. I only want to know which so that i may contribute effectively in response to your insinuations.

eagle SG

Mr Robert teh,

This kind of pro-PAP reply is very much more welcomed than those by DeerHunter and Gazelle. Both of their brainless replies (usually with more brainless insults included) merely serves to turn neutral parties away from the incumbent.

Being objective, I have to agree that there are quite a number of things that the government has done right. However, there are also a number of unpopular things that the government has done which did not seem to solve the underlying problem. That's not quite all, what's worse is that the incumbent seems to persist in the 'wrong' solution at times.

The best example is the implementation of the ERP. At the very start, I was very impressed by it, having replaced the 'sticker/coupon' that one has to stick on their car before entering the CBD last time. It was touted as a solution to traffic congestion.

Yet what do we see now? Traffic congestion remains; imagine driving through CTE at a slow speed and still having to pay ERP, which supposedly should reduce the amount of congestion.

So what's the solution? Increase ERP charges and increase the number of gantries, to the extent of placing gantries in residential areas. This has been done a number of times. If it didn't work well enough, increase the charges again, or so it seems from what has been done by LTA.

In addition, I can't imagine how placing a gantry at PIE Kallang Bahru would help when there isn't even much traffic in that road; a gantry there serves to totally remove the alternative route that motorists have if they want to exit (from PIE) to go to ICA building. Sure, one can say that there are time periods in which the gantries are not in operation. Life in Singapore is already filled with enough mental loads, why put on additional mental work to go and find out the different timings in which ERP gantries are in operation? This affects the lives of many Singaporeans, yet the reason why the ERP gantries are located at locations like Kallang Bahru are not even sufficiently provided; no statistics, no reasonings, no survey results before and after ERP implementation being provided to the public.

The way LTA is handling events is already putting doubts on the abilities of Transport minister Raymond Lim. 'ERP help Singaporeans own more cars', a statement true by statistics, true by meaning (of the word own, not use), but totally unthinkable and tactless for a minister. Politics is for the people; no matter how successful or good a policy is, you first have to ensure that the people are at peace with your policies and statements. If that is not done well, you can never be a good and popular politician.

robertteh SG

Please also hire lawyers to sort out the legalities, and authorised independent auditors to clarify all your statements of accounts. You bear all costs and your time as well.

Do so please.

I sit here, shaking my leg, and await for your clarification. In the meantime, i will continue to tell others that you robertteh, has mismanage your company funds and even embezzled them.

Dear Hunter,

Before you dismiss any views or opinions posted, please provide your logic and rationale with facts and substance. Dismissing any views and opinions in any posts without any thinking process rationale or logic is part of ignorance reflecting lack of civility.

Which part of my post or posts are suggesting that I am a paid minister or MP or civil servant holding duties or responsibility to people for which I owe them that duty to demonstrate my personal morality.

Must CSJ have the morality or pass certain morality test before he questions about the immorality of hoarding public donations in NKF. If ministers or government refuse to instruct their Health Regulatory Authority to check on such wrongful practices, who should be morally upright to do a better job.

Next you mentioned evidences. Yes we do have the rules of evidences in court and such rules are being followed by citizens. However are such rules of evidences all that meet the eyes. For every piece of wrongful conduct or criminal act, there are hundreds of principles or precedence. Is it enough merely to follow those rules of evidence that suit the party in power to do so as happened in civil libel.

Obviously the rules of evidences cannot be justly or equitably followed in civil libel. If they are being followed, why was CSJ not allowed the defence of his publication in the public interest. Public interest demands that ministers of government have the duty to disclose honestly with integrity the full facts surrounding NKF hoarding of donations to form 30 years reserve. Ministers have the public duty to tell parliament the truths surrounding the patient subsidy. If these figures were subsequently found to be inaccurate or wrong and CSJ published the article criticising government for causing problems should he not be given the benefit of the doubt as acting in the interest of public by raising relevant queries of ministers' failure to disclose the truths in these instances.

So rules of evidences were at best partially applied to the benefit only of the government in civil libel. This is wrongful and immoral conduct and should be corrected as soon as possible if we are to evolve into a more open and inclusive society. It is no use for the PM to announce in his inaugural speech in 2004 that he would be building a open and inclusive society when in practice he is going all out to fix the opposition in this manner as he is doing to CSJ and his sister.

Is the government moral or am I sitting on my own moral high horse when actually I am paid millions but failing to discharge my citizen duty to check on wrong doings of this nature.

Get your sense of priority right.

robertteh SG

Robertteh,

What i had done is just a simple experiment to show up how deluded and ignorant you are!

What you had done in your post is to accuse the govt of wrong doings, of not being honest. Do you have any proof? None, except your own disbelief.

Insinuations by whistle blowers about golden taps and hoarding of public donation monies and over-stating of patient subsidy have all turned out to be factual malpractices as seen in subsequent court case between SPH and NKF. Why didn't the ministers in charge instruct the Health Regulatory Authority to do their jobs and make accurate disclosures of such figures to parliaments in answering to concern raised.

So please do not insinuate that people are always questioning government mischievously. It is more important for the government go after their own ministers or civil servants who have failed to solve problems pointed out in public concern even without facts if there is a public concern.

This kind of government is too complacent as realized by MM Lee in recent farcical escape from high security terrorist prison perhaps. Citizens are not liars just because they could not take the complacent ministers or government to task all the way as done in SPH versus NKF which finally spilled the wrongfulness which took many years to put right.

Don't you think whistle blowers may lack the facts or insider informations but their insinuations utttered may not be insinuations at all but root of evil if not stamped out effectively by hardworking and morally upright governing.

Many anti-progress and anti-people policies of the past have been posted in this forum. These are real problems which need to be solved. NKF and Mas Selamat are just the tip of the iceberg. The ERP and HDB profiteering problems are big concern of citizens. Other problems are careless investment projects like Shin Corp or UBS which should be addressed at fundamental policy level.

There should be open and accountable government with more avenues provided for people to question and check on similar wrongfulness or malpractices in government which may stay hidden for years if not addressed.

Active citizens and whistle blowers are not anti-progress or anti-government. Let the government shows that it has the high moral ground than pragmatism to solve such problems. Until then only active citizens not the MPs or Ministers can solve the peoblems as MPs and Ministers have now become partitioned to the government and not serving the people as they should be.

If these active citizens do not care then what will happen? Will ministers willingly open their books and expose wrongfulness or malpractices as seen in Mas Selamat or NKF.

Get your priority right if you want to have reasonable discussions in this forum.

Instead of regarding citizens suspiciously as causing problems, government should change its mindset and get them to check on regulatory authority who has often failed to do their job.

Why not expose wrongfulness and malpractices instead of creating more complacency by protecting all these culprits and cover up real issues and problems.

If you understand what I am saying in the foregoing then critics here are not insinuating when they are expressing certain concerns which actually may reflect serious deep-rooted problems unsolved due to lack of accountability of government.

Spartans SG

So where do all the money collected from taxes and charges go to? It is pretty interesting to speculate on it. It will be good if the government is willing to share with us their non-classified financial information. At least it can clear some doubts.

caleb_chiang SG

I would say a portion to their over-rated salary even compared to the world leading countries... and they have the cheek to say their salaries are justified openly...

Spartans SG

I would say a portion to their over-rated salary even compared to the world leading countries... and they have the cheek to say their salaries are justified openly...

Their salaries are jokes. So funny.

And their reasons given are insults to our intelligence too.

DeerHunter SG

Dear Hunter,

Is the government moral or am I sitting on my own moral high horse when actually I am paid millions but failing to discharge my citizen duty to check on wrong doings of this nature.

Get your sense of priority right.

Your rational and logic provided by your posts is borned out of ignorance, and i had been kind and civil enough to respond back to you. If you even fail to understand it, you are more intellectually challenged that i can ever give you credit for!

I in no way infer that you are a MP or holding a status that you don't even deserve by your numerous posts for my experiment to show your low morals. I would have suggested you as a monkey in the zoo based on your brain material (or the lack of it) but there are no real monkeys that hold business positions or in finance, thus i have to use a regular company instead. Do not, do not presume i would place you on a pedestal you don't deserve, even for an experiment.

No, he doesnt need a morality pass to question this matter, nor you for that matter. But you hit the nail on the head -'wrongful practices'. Did CSJ or you had any evidence of wrongful practices? NONE!

Obviously the rules of evidences cannot be justly or equitably followed in civil libel. If they are being followed, why was CSJ not allowed the defence of his publication in the public interest.

Prima Facie, you armchair butt sitting village dolt! Without any prima facie, (evidence) the court will just dismiss or throw out the case! You are exasperationg stubbornly stupid!

Public interest demands that ministers of government have the duty to disclose honestly with integrity the full facts surrounding NKF hoarding of donations to form 30 years reserve.

If you are less than satisfied with the NFK findings and justice served on the perpetrators in NKF fiasco, then you can always approach your MP to discuss it out in Parliament, if it warrants it. Do not waste Parliament's time, for there are more current and critical issues that needs to be debated there for the rest of our citizens than to satisfy your ignorance.

Ministers have the public duty to tell parliament the truths surrounding the patient subsidy. If these figures were subsequently found to be inaccurate or wrong and CSJ published the article criticising government for causing problems should he not be given the benefit of the doubt as acting in the interest of public by raising relevant queries of ministers' failure to disclose the truths in these instances.

Hold on a minute!. CSJ's article did not mentioned anything about 'patient subsidy' as you allege. Why are you adding this? What are you doing? This was the only main thesis:-It is impossible not to notice the striking resemblance between how the NKF operated and how the PAP runs Singapore"

What truths "truths surrounding the patient subsidy." are you alluding? You are despicable, adding more than what had actually transpired! What else you want to add to it now?

Wrongful and immoral? Just because you said so in your ignorance? You are the only one who is wrongful and immoral, as proven by my rebut based on logic and rational thinking.

It is no use ........of this nature.

Get your sense of priority right.

My response to your tirade?:- Get your sense of logic correct!

DeerHunter SG

If these active citizens do not care then what will happen? Will ministers willingly open their books and expose wrongfulness or malpractices as seen in Mas Selamat or NKF.

Get your priority right if you want to have reasonable discussions in this forum.

Instead of regarding citizens suspiciously as causing problems, government should change its mindset and get them to check on regulatory authority who has often failed to do their job.

Why not expose wrongfulness and malpractices instead of creating more complacency by protecting all these culprits and cover up real issues and problems.

Hang on!. SPH vs NKF is a case by itself. SPH had evidences. Did CSJ had any? NONE!

And it is more important for civilians to ensure they have evidence of malpractices if they want our ministers to pinpoint a fault in the system which provides administration to 3.5 million citizens and another est 1 million FT/FW in Singapore with regards to education, healthcare, transportation, home affairs, etc, etc.

Dont mistake criticism and slandering please. Criticise by all means. It may help. But slandering will only make our leaders go on an unnecessary time consuming witch hunting. Help by all means, the govt will appreciate, but help by providing evidence, not hearsay!

Stop! What tip of the iceberg are you alluding?!!! Back up your statements with facts please! You can't go on slandering and slandering!

If these active citizens do not care then what will happen? Will ministers willingly open their books and expose wrongfulness or malpractices as seen in Mas Selamat or NKF.

Get your priority right if you want to have reasonable discussions in this forum.

Get your logic right if you want to have reasonable discussions in this forum please!!!!!!!

Instead of regarding citizens suspiciously as causing problems, government should change its mindset and get them to check on regulatory authority who has often failed to do their job.

Why not expose wrongfulness and malpractices instead of creating more complacency by protecting all these culprits and cover up real issues and problems.

If you have evidence, then show it! Do you have? None! and yet you prattle on and on!!!!!!!

The only deep rooted problem here is your stubborness to face up to facts, using imaginery self deluded issues to back up your ignorances to slander against an innocent administration attempting its best to help most, if not all, over these trying times! Get a grip, will yer?!!!

robertteh SG

Dear Hunter,

Let the public forumers judge who is rationale - CSJ or MM Lee in that recent public hearing of yet another defamation suit against him.

Why are you so paranoid on pinning down CSJ who is merely fighting for justice and equity for all the apathetic citizens and your own future? You should thank him for his courage and determination to serve like JBJ the public interest. These are truly the heros not the million-dollar ministers or original founders who have taken all the credits and doing nothing much to serve the majority of citizens who are losing their retirements and struggling for survival with all the fees and tax increases as Mah is trying to do now.

CSJ is not going to take over PM job so fast so stop using all the propagandas to make it look as if he is going to take over. So if he is not going to be the next PM, let us give him leeway to serve the citizens in providing some checks and balances to overzealous taxing and hoarding of monies from the citizens.

I do not understand why are you worried about his character or mannerism. Do you have a good heart or good moral yourself?

You mean MM Lee was so perfect you would say that after his passing, future judges will not overrule his utterances in defamation suits against politicians. (Just look at how Mahathir is being exposed)

TC Phua SG

Hi Robert,

Sidetrack:

Thanks for responding to my previous posting about my problem with ACRA. I must have pushed the wrong button, my whole thread is deleted.

Anyway, I have replied in another new thread, titled "5 Reasons: ACRA is unfair".

Thanks.

DeerHunter SG

Dear Hunter,

Let the public forumers judge who is rationale - CSJ or MM Lee in that recent public hearing of yet another defamation suit against him.

I do not understand why are you worried about his character or mannerism. Do you have a good heart or good moral yourself?

Dear Robertteh,

I am glad, very heartily glad, you stopped your slanderings. I must and insist on taking credit for making you wake up to logic!

Let the public forumers judge who is rationale - CSJ or MM Lee in that recent public hearing of yet another defamation suit against him.

I heartily agree! Everyone is still waiting for his evidence on the allege slander against innocent men.

Hang on! thank him for what?! Courage to be stupid and slander innocent men? Are you out of your mind?!!! Need i thank the drug peddlers too, they certainly did much more than him, for they give temporary relief to drug abusers, courageously in the face of heavy sentences?!!!

not the million-dollar ministers or original founders who have taken all the credits and doing nothing much to serve the majority of citizens

Waittaminute! Doing nothing much? Are we still living in kampongs, mud track roads, old and decrepit schools, non-air con buses spewing fumes as it revs up, walk for miles to get to work, $300/mth salaries, etc?

who are losing their retirements and struggling for survival with all the fees and tax increases as Mah is trying to do now.

Who should take the blame for increases? Our govt? Do we own any resources? Such faults lies not with the govt, and espacially singapore, who needs to import its goods as we have no resources other than our own.

Balance and checks, yes. But not through slanderings and casting aspersions without a shred of evidence. It will only gridlock our parliamentary system, and waste time/resources when it could have been use to further the welfare of our citizens!

No propagandas from anyone of us, please. He does it all by himself. Can't blame anyone else for his stupidity he shows to everyone.

I do not understand why are you worried about his character or mannerism.

Of course i have to be worried about his character. For goodness sake! CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE!! He is preaching anarchy! And for what other purpose but to elevate himself to power?! He can get away or flee to overseas, but ordinary citizens who believe will be the ones to suffer! Hell if i am going to watch my fellow citizens suffer because of his political ambitions through the crooked way!

Do you have a good heart or good moral yourself?

No. I don't have a good heart. I am not perfect. But i am without political ambition. I don't seek to rule over others. CSJ does, and attempts to achieve it by crooked means of breaking our society's laws.

The future made up of rational persons will be the judge of that. I have my own eyes to see the evidence of him and his capable team's hardwork to elevate the lives of us all, in the past, and espacially in these trying times of which our country has no control, and faith of their capability to ensure our next generation will not go into poverty with the US$300 billion in reserves they and us worked hard to get and manage. I can't say the same for CSJ, other than he would make a good comedian if he wasn't so evil to slander against innocent men to gain power.