No welfare means no tax or low tax govt, look at our taxes

last SG · 2008-06-22T19:14:52+00:00

DeerHunter,I would like to hear your explanation about natural resources.Have you admitted defeat to me again? Thank you. I go get dinner.

robertteh SG

Dear Robertteh,

I am glad, very heartily glad, you stopped your slanderings. I must and insist on taking credit for making you wake up to logic!

Let the public forumers judge who is rationale - CSJ or MM Lee in that recent public hearing of yet another defamation suit against him.

I heartily agree! Everyone is still waiting for his evidence on the allege slander against innocent men.

Why are you so paranoid on pinning down CSJ who is merely fighting for justice and equity for all the apathetic citizens and your own future? You should thank him for his courage and determination to serve like JBJ the public interest. These are truly the heros

Hang on! thank him for what?! Courage to be stupid and slander innocent men? Are you out of your mind?!!! Need i thank the drug peddlers too, they certainly did much more than him, for they give temporary relief to drug abusers, courageously in the face of heavy sentences?!!!

not the million-dollar ministers or original founders who have taken all the credits and doing nothing much to serve the majority of citizens

Waittaminute! Doing nothing much? Are we still living in kampongs, mud track roads, old and decrepit schools, non-air con buses spewing fumes as it revs up, walk for miles to get to work, $300/mth salaries, etc?

who are losing their retirements and struggling for survival with all the fees and tax increases as Mah is trying to do now.

Who should take the blame for increases? Our govt? Do we own any resources? Such faults lies not with the govt, and espacially singapore, who needs to import its goods as we have no resources other than our own.

CSJ is not going to take over PM job so fast so stop using all the propagandas to make it look as if he is going to take over. So if he is not going to be the next PM, let us give him leeway to serve the citizens in providing some checks and balances to overzealous taxing and hoarding of monies from the citizens.

Balance and checks, yes. But not through slanderings and casting aspersions without a shred of evidence. It will only gridlock our parliamentary system, and waste time/resources when it could have been use to further the welfare of our citizens!

No propagandas from anyone of us, please. He does it all by himself. Can't blame anyone else for his stupidity he shows to everyone.

I do not understand why are you worried about his character or mannerism.

Of course i have to be worried about his character. For goodness sake! CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE!! He is preaching anarchy! And for what other purpose but to elevate himself to power?! He can get away or flee to overseas, but ordinary citizens who believe will be the ones to suffer! Hell if i am going to watch my fellow citizens suffer because of his political ambitions through the crooked way!

Do you have a good heart or good moral yourself?

No. I don't have a good heart. I am not perfect. But i am without political ambition. I don't seek to rule over others. CSJ does, and attempts to achieve it by crooked means of breaking our society's laws.

You mean MM Lee was so perfect you would say that after his passing, future judges will not overrule his utterances in defamation suits against politicians. (Just look at how Mahathir is being exposed)

The future made up of rational persons will be the judge of that. I have my own eyes to see the evidence of him and his capable team's hardwork to elevate the lives of us all, in the past, and espacially in these trying times of which our country has no control, and faith of their capability to ensure our next generation will not go into poverty with the US$300 billion in reserves they and us worked hard to get and manage. I can't say the same for CSJ, other than he would make a good comedian if he wasn't so evil to slander against innocent men to gain power.

You insisted on calling others slanderers, are you not the worse slanderers when you without any conscience chooses to slander CSJ for defending freedoms against wrongful suing of citizens over remarks exchanged in the course of electioneering.

If we go by the rule of laws, laws must be fair and just with rules of evidences applied without such biases. Answer to the most important and crucial point in the whole issue - are the rules of evidence such as right of accused to fair comments and public interests applied by the judge in this latest defamation suit?

Will NKF wrongdoings as unearthed in the SPH/NKF not something which should have been prevented by the respective Health Regulatory Authority in the first place.

If the Minister-in-charge has taken action to stop such wrongful practices would CSJ be criticizing the government in the way he has published this case as caused by or attributable to the government.

Political leaders should be more responsible for mistakes or errors caused by NKF including the wrongful hoarding of public donations and misuse of donations funds for golden taps and awards of contracts to cronies?

If political leaders simply push aside such problems and sue CSJ out of context for slandering over some other less salient points then they do not have the standing of moral or upright political leaders?

If you apply slandering in such a biased manner denying CSJ of his right of defence on fair comments and public interest what slandering are you talking about?

So do not pretend that our rule of evidence or law of libel is so right or fair. Just look at what has happened to his values and judgments after Mahathir left office. Can he say his decisions over many prosecutions of his opponents are right or good for the country as you are trying to make out in the case of MM vs CSJ case just heard in court.

The juries are still out as far as Singaporeans are concerned. Devan Nair won the case easily against MM in Canada court and this clearly showed that our courts are not as fair and just in political defamation suits against political oppositions back home.

So what slandering you are talking about when you use the term. Is it in the sense of Canada or kangaroo court.

Do not try to appear so right or righteous if you have this kind of meaning of slandering.

For now citizens can judge for themselves. Conduct a poll and see if they will call such persecutions is for slandering rule of law or are just dirty rags.

DeerHunter SG

Will NKF wrongdoings as unearthed in the SPH/NKF not something which should have been prevented by the respective Health Regulatory Authority in the first place.

If you apply slandering in such a biased manner denying CSJ of his right of defence on fair comments and public interest what slandering are you talking about?

So what slandering you are talking about when you use the term. Is it in the sense of Canada or kangaroo court.

Do not try to appear so right or righteous if you have this kind of meaning of slandering.

For now citizens can judge for themselves. Conduct a poll and see if they will call such persecutions is for slandering rule of law or are just dirty rags.

That's the problem with you. You tend to generalize everything and in your delusions, you label it in your high horse mounting immoralism.

I make no slander against him over what he did not do. He had done much, and most of it that is self created and detrimental to one who seeks high office.

What freedoms are he defending? FREEDOM TO SLANDER THE INNOCENTS? Thus,look at yourself! You yourself am worse than CSJ, at least he openly challenged innocents but you do it here hiding in annonymity, and you DARE insult me?

Fair or unfair comments? What the hell happened to prima facie?

Will NKF wrongdoings as unearthed in the SPH/NKF not something which should have been prevented by the respective Health Regulatory Authority in the first place.

SPH/NKF is a different issue. MM Lee did not sue SPH or NKF, or did they slander against MM Lee or the govt. Are you blind?

IF! IF I HAD MUSTACHE, I WOULD BE YOUR FATHER! Have some logic to your arguements and stick to the facts please!

Evidence of contracts to cronies please? Have any? I will be kind and not slam you for slander. But others here who are silent may not be so kind.

Out of context?!!!! You read their statements again. There were no out of context statement but a blatant outright lie on the mismanagement of our govt, who must respond to clear their name!

If you apply slandering in such a biased manner denying CSJ of his right of defence on fair comments and public interest what slandering are you talking about?

I am talking about outright lies and falsehood, dolt! If you insist on being blind to the immorality of your idol, i can't help you. I am not a faithhealer!

So do not pretend that our rule of evidence or law of libel is so right or fair.

There is no pretension. It is right and fair. Only your corrupted moral values disagree with it.

Just look at what has happened to his values and judgments after Mahathir left office. Can he say his decisions over many prosecutions of his opponents are right or good for the country as you are trying to make out in the case of MM vs CSJ case just heard in court.

Might as well you bring in more famous ones. Want to use Mugabe, Mao, Stalin, Idi Amin, etc. They are not singaporeans. Don't use others to support your corrupt moral values!

It certainly is out. Out on a picnic. Because the case is closed and justice served. May CSJ and his sister know better not to freely slander anyone else. You another one - kiss white men's butt. Go on and kiss them more. See if you when you are out of job, they will give you grants or help to put you back on your feet.

So what slandering you are talking about when you use the term. Is it in the sense of Canada or kangaroo court.

SLANDER AS IN CASTING ASPERSION ON INNOCENTS. Your moral values are too corrupt to understand the truth in it. The only kangaroo court there are is when your kind gets power. Then we citizens will be the ones appearing in your kind of court where anyone is free to slander against anyone and get away with it.

Do not try to appear so right or righteous if you have this kind of meaning of slandering.

I dont need to appear righteous or right. The truth is self evident.

For now citizens can judge for themselves. Conduct a poll and see if they will call such persecutions is for slandering rule of law or are just dirty rags.

The only dirty rag i see here are your posts. Support the slandering of innocents all you want, and hell if i will let you and your crazy kind roam freely, here or in the real world

youyayu SG

Ulti u live in england then u will know wad is TAXES

maurizio13 SG

Ulti u live in england then u will know wad is TAXES

Don't you make the wrong comparison, salary in UK is also alot higher and there are lots of welfare there. Australia also has high taxes and I did a comparison before. IN Singapore though there are no high taxes but higher charges for electricity tariffs, GST, COE, ERP, property tax, etc. Also you get zero welfare.

While the government throws away our hard earned money into frivolous acquisition of over-priced companies overseas. The commoners are left with having to pay the price with high levels of inflation, taxes, fees, charges and fines.

Ever wonder why our wages are so depressed, while citizens from other equivalent GDP per capita economies (e.g. Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, etc) can better afford holidays overseas. Their average wages are at least 3-5 times of Singaporeans (e.g. waiters and retail assistant makes AUD 15 to AUD 25 per hour). Singaporeans can only contend with 3rd world standard of living in the future, given the government's policy on letting in more 3rd world workers to push down wages.

The explanation for low wages given by P4P was global competition, seems like competition only applies to Singapore ONLY. But not to countries such as Australia or New Zealand.

P4P lackeys here complain that some of these countries like Australia, New Zealand, etc have high tax structure. But given their wages, they still make more than the average Singaporeans and could afford more despite their high tax structure. Notwithstanding that they do not need to pay for healthcare and basic education.

***This comparison is based only on the after tax spending power of low wage earners of both countries. I do not think that we need to compare the after tax spending power of high income earners, because they are still extremely well off after taxes.***

Singapore:

Income per year: SG$12,000
Income Taxes: 0%
GST: 7%
Spending Power After GST: SG$11,160 [SG$12,000 x 93%]

Australia:
(waiter or retail staff based on 3 times earnings of Singaporean only, not 5 times which is the higher bound)

Income per year: AU$36,000
Income Taxes: up to AU$6,000 = AU$0; AU$6,001 to AU$25,000 = AU$2,850; AU$25,001 to AU$36,000 = AU$3,300
Australia Personal Tax Rates
Total Income Taxes: AU$6,150 [AU$ 0 + AU$ 2,850 + AU$ 3,300]
Income after Income Taxes: AU$29,850
GST: 10%
Spending Power After GST: AU$26,865 [AU$29,850 x 90%]

An average waiter in Australia will have a spending power of AU$26,865, while a Singaporeans waiter will have only SG$11,160. Why do you think when we go for holidays overseas, we can afford less than an equivalent GDP per capita country like Australia or New Zealand.

You do the maths and tell me who is actually better off after personal taxes and GST.

Singaporeans or Australians???

Though Australia might have a higher personal tax structure, but their average wages are 3 to 5 times of Singaporeans. Even after deducting high taxes and GST, they still do end up with more money in the pocket than an average Singaporean. Moreover, they have no need to pay for healthcare and basic education.

Australian Wages
Bartending/waiting tables: $15 - $25 per hour (casual)
Chef: $700 - $800 per week (full time)
Retail sales assistant: $15 - $25 per hour (casual)
Check out operators and cashiers: $500 - $700 per week (full time)
Building/labouring: $650 - $850 per week (full time)
Engineering: $800 - $1500 per week (full time)
Hairdressing: $530 - $650 per week (full time)
Secretarial/administration: $600 - $700 per week (full time)
Child care: $18 - $20 per hour (casual)

http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/298547

maurizio13 SG

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maurizio13 SG

Not forgetting that inflation in these countries for the past few months have been lower than Singapore's projected 7% to 8% inflation rate.

Taiwan's CPI 3.89%

http://eng.stat.gov.tw/point.asp?index=2

New Zealand's CPI 3.2%

http://www.stats.govt.nz/NR/rdonlyres/4C7014DE-D2F5-45E7-B2DC-906B6A9C365E/0/consumerspriceindexdec07qtrhotp.pdf

UK CPI 2.5%

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=19

Germany's CPI 2.8%

France's CPI 2.8%

http://www.insee.fr/en/indicateur/indic_conj/indconj_frame.asp?ind_id=29

Ireland's CPI 4.77%

http://www.cso.ie/statistics/cpi2008.htm

Japan's CPI 0.7%

http://www.stat.go.jp/english/index.htm

DeerHunter SG

http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/298547

Ever wonder why you always try to act smart?

Why not compare wages with Europe or USA?

Have you forgotten to add that Australia's GST is 10%?

They have natural resources such as bauxite, coal, iron ore, copper, tin, gold, silver, uranium, nickel, tungsten, mineral sands, lead, zinc, diamonds, natural gas, petroleum. We have no natural resources.

Their land area is est 7,700,000km square with 21 million citizens.

Ours is 701 km square with population 3.5 million citizens.

Not to mention, australia has the 4th largest current account deficiet in the world

Not to mentioned, it is far from asia, in a continent of its own and have no immediate neighbours that offers cheap labour.

Go figure how they manage their country and why we in singapore have our own limitations. Do compare Apple with Apple and not Apple with Oranges. Not all here are fools or blind to your insidious half truths attempts.

And don't bother to use Hong Kong please! Their next generation will be communists by 2047 and have no need to build their reserves. They only live for today, and can afford to do so with their budget surpluses for their tomorrow belongs to CCCP.

DeerHunter SG

Not forgetting that inflation in these countries for the past few months have been lower than Singapore's projected 7% to 8% inflation rate.

Taiwan's CPI 3.89%

http://eng.stat.gov.tw/point.asp?index=2

New Zealand's CPI 3.2%

http://www.stats.govt.nz/NR/rdonlyres/4C7014DE-D2F5-45E7-B2DC-906B6A9C365E/0/consumerspriceindexdec07qtrhotp.pdf

UK CPI 2.5%

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=19

Germany's CPI 2.8%

France's CPI 2.8%

http://www.insee.fr/en/indicateur/indic_conj/indconj_frame.asp?ind_id=29

Ireland's CPI 4.77%

http://www.cso.ie/statistics/cpi2008.htm

Japan's CPI 0.7%

http://www.stat.go.jp/english/index.htm

Again, blind comparisons. What did they use to derive their figures? Anyone can compare, but are you giving equal comparisons? You are not. So go on and compare. Next you will have us believe N korea is a paradise on Earth!

Spartans SG

In Singapore, be prepared to work hard and feed your own family yourself ( and pay your part to the nation by paying taxes so that the ministers can draw their exorbitant salaries).

End of Story.

robertteh SG

[quote]That's the problem with you. You tend to generalize everything and in your delusions, you label it in your high horse mounting immoralism.

I make no slander against him over what he did not do. He had done much, and most of it that is self created and detrimental to one who seeks high office.

I do not have a moral high horse to sit on. He is uneasy who wears the crown. So you should not question my morality but instead ask whoever in charge of regulations of NKF to answer to those points alleged in CSJ website. He has the prima facie and those prima facie are in the regulatory authority office or parliamentary gazette.

[quote]Fair or unfair comments? What the hell happened to prima facie?[/quote]

As I have said the whole of NKF wrong doings were discussed in parliaments and up till now the Health Regulatory Authority or Minister remained unaccountable for those negligence or mistakes committed. Do we have an independent judiciary after what has been found in Devan Nair suits which he won in Canada ? Unless you are blind you should be able to see the prima facie in all the records on NKF parliamentary reports.

Will NKF wrongdoings as unearthed in the SPH/NKF not something which should have been prevented by the respective Health Regulatory Authority in the first place.

[quote]SPH/NKF is a different issue. MM Lee did not sue SPH or NKF, or did they slander against MM Lee or the govt. Are you blind?[/quote]

In a political defamation suits heard by judges appointed by or with the consent of the government which judges dare to give a verdict against the power that be? Irrelevant or relevant is not the main issue here?

[quote]IF! IF I HAD MUSTACHE, I WOULD BE YOUR FATHER! Have some logic to your arguements and stick to the facts please![/quote]

If the root cause of a problem is not admitted how to run a first-world government?

Evidence of contracts to cronies please? Have any? I will be kind and not slam you for slander. But others here who are silent may not be so kind.

Prima Facie evidence of wrong doings in NKF were court records. So if you want prima facie what is so difficult to extract them from the court or the parliamentary sitting on this case.

[quote]Out of context?!!!! You read their statements again. There were no out of context statement but a blatant outright lie on the mismanagement of our govt, who must respond to clear their name![/quote]

In political defamation suits against political oppositions, can you avoid referring to remarks made in the heat of electioneering. Didn't both sides make various slandering remarks against one another all the time. Are you blind to see this fact?

If you apply slandering in such a biased manner denying CSJ of his right of defence on fair comments and public interest what slandering are you talking about?

[quote]I am talking about outright lies and falsehood, dolt! If you insist on being blind to the immorality of your idol, i can't help you. I am not a faithhealer![/quote]

The calling of names like slanderer without giving the accused the chance of defence on ground of fair comments or public interests is worse than slandering.

So do not pretend that our rule of evidence or law of libel is so right or fair.

[quote]There is no pretension. It is right and fair. Only your corrupted moral values disagree with it.[/quote]

If this is not slandering what is?

[quote]Might as well you bring in more famous ones. Want to use Mugabe, Mao, Stalin, Idi Amin, etc. They are not singaporeans. Don't use others to support your corrupt moral values![/quote]

In view of government frequent use of selective comparison of their own worth with the best of CEO in private sector or worse case scenarios in other countries to avoid accountability for problems, surely I am entitled to quote a selective comparison once. Mahathir's use of political power to run down oppositions may well be a good parallel for this case.

[quote]It certainly is out. Out on a picnic. Because the case is closed and justice served. May CSJ and his sister know better not to freely slander anyone else. You another one - kiss white men's butt. Go on and kiss them more. See if you when you are out of job, they will give you grants or help to put you back on your feet.[/quote]

If the jury system is not abolished for political purpose, perhaps today we will not have so many political defamation suits against the oppositions.

So what slandering you are talking about when you use the term. Is it in the sense of Canada or kangaroo court.

quote]SLANDER AS IN CASTING ASPERSION ON INNOCENTS. Your moral values are too corrupt to understand the truth in it. The only kangaroo court there are is when your kind gets power. Then we citizens will be the ones appearing in your kind of court where anyone is free to slander against anyone and get away with it.[/quote]

Who is innocent or being entitled to defence based on rule of evidence or laws of civil libel. Who is being sued or slandered? Pardon me for my asking.

Do not try to appear so right or righteous if you have this kind of meaning of slandering.

[quote]I dont need to appear righteous or right. The truth is self evident.[/quote]

Being self-evident is the rule of civil evidence in civil libel being overlooked as mentioned - fair comments and public interest.

For now citizens can judge for themselves. Conduct a poll and see if they will call such persecutions is for slandering rule of law or are just dirty rags.

[quote]The only dirty rag i see here are your posts. Support the slandering of innocents all you want, and hell if i will let you and your crazy kind roam freely, here or in the real world[/quote]

If civil libel is a matter not overruling all the defence of fair comments as irrelevant then what kind of civil libel is that?

robertteh SG

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robertteh SG

Hi Robert,

Sidetrack:

Thanks for responding to my previous posting about my problem with ACRA. I must have pushed the wrong button, my whole thread is deleted.

Anyway, I have replied in another new thread, titled "5 Reasons: ACRA is unfair".

Thanks.

I have come across the same problem. It is easy to lose your post if not careful with buttons.

Your problem with ACRA cannot be solved easily by legality alone. We appear to have two layers of government.

One is legalistic with all civil servants complying with strict rule of law irrespective of unfairness created which is beyond the power of civil servant to intervene and another is election time law or appeasement.

That is why we need a diary for recording of such cases of injustices and unfairness and get all active citizens to put them up on public forums for appeasements solutions.

eagle SG

Ever wonder why you always try to act smart?

Why not compare wages with Europe or USA?

Have you forgotten to add that Australia's GST is 10%?

Their land area is est 7,700,000km square with 21 million citizens.

Ours is 701 km square with population 3.5 million citizens.

Not to mention, australia has the 4th largest current account deficiet in the world

Not to mentioned, it is far from asia, in a continent of its own and have no immediate neighbours that offers cheap labour.

Have you forgotten to add that Australia's GST is 10%?

Income per year: AU$36,000
Income Taxes: up to AU$6,000 = AU$0; AU$6,001 to AU$25,000 = AU$2,850; AU$25,001 to AU$36,000 = AU$3,300
Australia Personal Tax Rates
Total Income Taxes: AU$6,150 [AU$ 0 + AU$ 2,850 + AU$ 3,300]
Income after Income Taxes: AU$29,850
GST: 10%
Spending Power After GST: AU$26,865 [AU$29,850 x 90%]

Some people just really don't know how to read properly before making comments that make themselves look even more stupid

eagle SG

Another brainless and baseless comment

When others merely raised points, you would say they made baseless stands and slanderous remarks (although some are really guilty of it)

Yet when others showed statistics, you immediately claimed 'blind comparisons'.

Next you will tell us Singapore is best in the world in every single thing by comparing with countries like N Korea

maurizio13 SG

Ever wonder why you always try to act smart?

Why not compare wages with Europe or USA?

Have you forgotten to add that Australia's GST is 10%?

Their land area is est 7,700,000km square with 21 million citizens.

Ours is 701 km square with population 3.5 million citizens.

Not to mention, australia has the 4th largest current account deficiet in the world

Not to mentioned, it is far from asia, in a continent of its own and have no immediate neighbours that offers cheap labour.

I don't have to act smart.

Wages in Europe and US would be alot more than Singapore.

Yes, Australia has GST, but their GST does not apply to basic food items, unlike Singapore which taxes basic necessities like food, approved childcare supplies, educational supplies and medical supplies. Moreover with their GST, they provide free hospital care, the same cannot be said for Singapore which charges an arm or a leg for hospitalisation.

http://www.gstaustralia.com.au/gst-exemptions.htm

Yes, your point of contention has always been natural resources. But do you know how mining industry works? Do you think that the Australian Government is directly involved in the mining and sale of these natural resources? Think again.

While exploration and mining can sometimes be conducted by individual entrepreneurs or small business, most modern-day mines are large enterprises requiring large amounts of capital to establish. Consequently, the mining sector of the industry is dominated by large, often multinational, mostly publicly-listed companies. See Category:Mining companies for a list. However, what is referred to as the 'mining industry' is actually two sectors, one specializing in exploration for new resources, the other specializing in mining those resources. The exploration sector is typically made up of individuals and small mineral resource companies dependent on public investment. The mining sector is typically large and multi-national companies sustained by mineral production from their mining operations.

A number of large multinational mining companies including BHP Billiton, Newcrest, Rio Tinto, Alcoa, Chalco, Alcan and Xstrata operate in Australia. There are also a lot of small mining and mineral exploration companies listed on the Australian Stock Exchange (ASX). Overall, the resources sector represents almost 20% of the ASX market by capitalisation, and almost one third of the companies listed. ^[8]

Mining contributes about 5.6% of Australia's Gross Domestic Product. This is up from only 2.6% in 1950, but down from over 10% at the time of federation in 1900. ^[9] In contrast, mineral exports contribute around 35% of Australia's exports. Australia is the world's largest exporter of coal (35% of international trade), iron ore, lead, diamonds, rutile, zinc and zirconium, second largest of gold and uranium, and third largest of aluminium. ^[10]

Of the developed countries, perhaps only in Canada and Norway does mining play as significant a part in the economy; for comparison, in Canada mining represents about 3.6% of the Canadian economy and 32% of exports ^[11], and in Norway mining, dominated by petroleum, represents about 19% of GDP and 46% of exports.^[12] By comparison, in the United States mining represents only about 1.6% of GDP^[13].

Despite its export importance, the mining sector employs only a small proportion of the workforce - roughly 129,000 Australians, representing only about 1.3% of the total labor force ^[14].

Essentially what the government does is sell the land to these stock exchange listed mining companies and leave the sourcing and procuring of minerals to these private companies. The government gets paid for the lease of the land in the form of either a fixed sum or annual sum, alot like the selling of commercial land in Singapore. The money obtained from the sale or rental of these mines goes into helping the citizens of Australia as claimed by you. But where has the money from the sale of commercial land in Singapore gone. Unless you going to start arguing with me, telling me that these publicly listed companies on the stock exchange gives donation to the Australian government for no apparent reason, that I have nothing else to comment.

Don't understand your one liners telling us the geographical and demographical statistics. If it's accurate I don't dispute it, but it serves no purpose in your argument, other than to add facts to mislead others into thinking that your previous statements are also facts.

Whether you have neighbours that have cheap labour is irrelevant. I don't understand your logic in this statement. Anyway, finished products are not only limited to sale to your close neighbours, these days even grapes produced in South Africa can be imported to Singapore for consumption.

The only difference between Hong Kong and Singapore is that in Hong Kong there is no dynastic succession, even in China the tenure of the President is limited to 2 terms (I think).

If a father can pass his inheritance to his sons and then from sons to grandsons, won't it be more beneficial for a regime to promote dynastic succession.

maurizio13 SG

In case you don't understand, GDP does not mean all the money goes to the government.

GDP just means the total that an economy produces in terms of goods and services. So if a country produces cars, coca cola, furniture, milk, iron, titanium, platinium, uranium, etc, it goes into the total of the GDP.

The gross domestic product (GDP) or gross domestic income (GDI) is one of the measures of national income and output for a given country's economy. GDP is defined as the total market value of all final goods and services produced within the country in a given period of time (usually a calendar year). It is also considered the sum of value added at every stage of production (the intermediate stages) of all final goods and services produced within a country in a given period of time, and it is given a money value.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GDP

Civilgoh SG

Another brainless and baseless comment

When others merely raised points, you would say they made baseless stands and slanderous remarks (although some are really guilty of it)

Yet when others showed statistics, you immediately claimed 'blind comparisons'.

Next you will tell us Singapore is best in the world in every single thing by comparing with countries like N Korea

maurizio13 SG

DeerHunter aka Elmer Fudd gone hunting for wabbits?

dragg SG

what about cutting taxes on fuel?

mah said it will send the wrong signal.

maurizio13 SG

mah said it will send the wrong signal.

you are very obedient.

if i am in power, i wish all the population be like you.

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