Fatum,
U still don't get it.
I am more concerned about Kashmir than Tibet. And rightfully
so. Why? becos the scale of the violence in Kashmir is much
worse than Tibet. I have already proven that. One cannot look at
Tibet and Kashmir the same way.
At least China media report on the current unrest in
Tibet. Do u see India doing the same on kashmir? Nope. Many people
are totally ignorant about what's going on in Kashmir. For many
years there was a virtual media blackout imposed on Kashmir. See
the difference?
in case you didn't read the title of this thread, it says "Free
tibet"... not free kashmir ... you are really trying the same old
trick of pointing fingers at other people doing the same thing
aren't you ... for the 12th time ... saying that others are doing
the same thing doesn't absolve one of one's own crime ? ... if
you're interested, prove it and start a new thread ... not to start
spouting here when you're trying prove there there's some sort of
bias or hidden agenda in the reporting ...
chinese media reporting you said ? ...
try this article .... reprinted from the AFP
BEIJING - PRO-TIBET activists said
on Wednesday they have been bombarded with abusive phone calls and
virus emails as they try to contact witnesses in Tibet and nearby
amid a clampdown following anti-Chinese riots.
Matt Whitticase, from the Free
Tibet Campaign, said he had received calls every two minutes from
4.00 am to 7.00 am on Tuesday in London to his mobile number and
also at his work number.
'Of course I have no way of saying
who the calls were from, but a variety of callers (from British
mobile numbers) had Chinese accents,' he said in an
email.
The content was crude, abusive and
highly anti-Tibetan in nature. The calls also contained the sort of
patriotic Chinese music you used to hear on Chinese trains and in
public places.'
'It seemed that the intention was
to stop me from working and from making calls.'
Lhadon Tethong, director of
Students for a Free Tibet, told reporters that their New York
office had also received abusive calls from people speaking
Chinese, and added that they had received viruses via
email.
'We are getting virus attacks that
are just shameless... claiming to be desperate people inside Tibet.
The emails are well-written and emotional pleading for us to open
the images,' she told reporters.
One other group, which did not
want to be identified, told reporters its computers had been
compromised by virus attacks over the last few days.
AFP received an email on Tuesday
from someone claiming to be in Denmark, who had attached a file
they said were pictures of Tibetans shot by the Chinese army. When
AFP tried to open the attachment a virus warning
appeared.
The groups are trying to contact
people inside Tibet and the surrounding regions to try to find
witness accounts of deadly violence that has erupted there in the
past few days amid anti-Chinese protests.
Journalists, rights groups and
activists are being prevented from gaining access to almost every
part of China where protests are reported to have taken place. --
AFP
go on, call all these untrue if you like, call them lies, fakes,
fabrications or what not ... but the fact is that tibet is now
closed to outsiders, if there is nothing to hide, there's no need
to ban .... so it is obvious which version has more credibility
....
or, like our friend SGdiehard there, says "go on ! ... did you
see anybody shot ? ... what evidence ? .. no evidence !
"....
of course not ... not when journalists are banned from going
anywhere near the troubles ... how convenient eh ... before you
want to do any dirty deeds ... get the reporters away first ...
rule number one of any totalitarian regime ....
as for those phone calls and those virus attacks ... I sincerely
hope that it's the work of Chinese intelligence and their secret
police .... I'd feel much better if it's the workings of a
goverment hell-bent on any sort of criticisms, than ordinary
citizens unhappy about the tibetans .... because if it's just
ordinary chinese citizens doing all these things, I'll start
thinking back to those jack-booting Nazi youths of old, or those
jihadist hard core islamic militants, do people see the eerie
similarity here ? .... ..... and we are witnessing the emergence of
a rabid closed minded nationalistic streak ... and the chinese
super power is going to be the biggest bully in the neighbourhood
in the future .... already, we have people writing something like
this below ..
quoted word for word from the forumer ironbutcherer over at the
other thread ...
Hi, I am from China. Many good
points you have raised, deathbait! Thank you for representing a
sane voice amongst some less enlightened opinions in this forum.
It never is a coincidence that the trouble in Tibet is
climbing up at this point, just a few months away from the
Olympics. It is part of the scheme on the part of Western
politicians to further smear the image of China and trying
everything they can do wreak havoc in China, for the sake of
their own political objective. Tibetans are unfortunately a
gullible lot, allowing themselves to be used by anti-Chinese
Westerners for the political agenda of the latter.
It amazes me that some people are
so quick at pointing fingers at our government for the alleged
"cultural assimilation", without understanding that the "Tibetan
culture", as you rightly put it, is one characterized by slavery.
If it is another country that liberated the Tibetan people from the
imprisonment of slavery, they would probably credited with helping
the advancement of a people/civilization. But not if it is China.
Because it is China, because we represent a different ideology, the
West would consistently and persistently find fault with us even
when there is none. Their objective is clear: to demonize China and
continually pressurize China so that it eventually comes to
collapse. But you know what? All this unjustified and abrasive
China-bashing just hardens our (the common Chinese nationals)
resolve that Communism does need to stay, for lack of a better
countering ideology to the hypocritical West. I am not even a fan
of communism. But the West is helping make it popular amongst us,
ironically.
So it is never about Tibet. It
never has been. I doubt the red-haired barbarians truly cared about
the well-being of another people. It is their political objective,
their perennial desire to conquer the
world with their own ideology and their way of doing things that
compelled them to indulge in this never-ending China-bashing
orgy. Sadly some less informed Singaporeans / red-hair wannabes are
too eager to join them...
I am still shocked by the kind of things written in the passage
above .... red-haird barbarians, red-haired wannabes, anti-chinese
westerners, gullible tibetans ... and this is already the
post-edited version ... wow .. kind of reminds you of those chaps
from the Taleban doesn't it ? .... imagine such views to be
representative of the people of the most populous country on earth
... with rising military and economic might, and, as we have seen,
the will to use them on other countries and peoples ....
once again .... for the last time ... if one's conscience is
clear, then there is nothing to fear when there's knocking at the
doors in the middle of the night ... if there's nothing to hide,
there's no reason to be afraid of any criticisms ...
