First of all, I never say that Tibet should be part of
China because the Americans were right to take over the land from
the native. I am saying that looking back into history, people of
different tribes merged to form bigger countries and such merging
occurred for many reasons. Tibet was conquered before by the
Mongol, attacked by the Nepalese, and so they happily subject
themselves to the Qing authority and became part of China in
exchange for their military protection. And this happened way
beyond your world began in 1950.
Secondly, the Qing dynasty NEVER sent any military
expedition to conquer Tibet, instead the military expedition was to
protect Tibet against the Nepalese invasion. The western powers
conquered and massacred the natives. Glad you recognize the west as
imperialists.
don’t get mixed up with the issue on lead paints in dolls,
tit for tat foreign policy is nothing new. You still playing with
dolls?
I have seen most, if not all the articles and pictures on
CNN and BBC. Yes civilians were killed, did they say how they were
killed? Tell me if you see the youths going rampage on the streets,
and you believe that the police then came to shoot the civilians? I
am not passing judgment on who is guilty, until the whole issue is
over. On all the people I see on the ground, I make the difference
between the police, the civilians, and the rioters. There are not
just police and civilians.
Tell me what name calling did I do? You can call me
whatever you like, but I laugh when you call me cultural
chauvinistic. In what way am I prejudiced against the Tibetan
culture? Before you ask me for a moral stand, tell me what is
“PRC’s suppression by force on the Tibetan civilians”. I don’t shy
away from any question.
trying to wriggle your way out now ? ... asking me if I play
with dolls when I bring up uncomfortable examples ? ...
so now you're NOT saying that tibet belongs to china now ? ...
surprise surprise ... so what was all that you've written about
then ? .. if not to support your claim that tibet belongs to china
? .... and that your justification is that at various times in
history, tibet has not been independant, but was controlled at
various times by various groups of people, most recently and most
often china ... cute ... so the last chinese expedition was sent to
protect the tibetans from the nepalese ?... or was it really
because tibet has always been an important buffer territory
throught out the centuries ? ... that's why tibet has to be
conquered, to hell with it's people ... your pro china stand is
obvious ... and since you're not a citizen of that country, isn't
cultural and racial pride the only conclusion ? ... i.e., you are a
cultural chauvinist ? ....
again, yet again, you choose to try to hide and find
justification in history, when I already showed you, again and
again, that to find justification the invasion and occupation of
another country now in the past, when other countries conquered and
subjugated other peoples at will, makes no sense ... I shall put
out the analogy of the kindergarden kid getting caught for cheating
in spelling again, since that's appropriate for your level "teacher
teacher ! .. not fair ! ... other people also cheated wat ... they
got away with it ... so why do you have to catch me only ? ... "...
in your book of ethics and values, just because other boys in that
school cheated, does it make it alright for this little boy to
cheat too ? .... I remind you this is an analogy about china's
occupation of tibet, go google what analogy means if you don't know
the meaning, and don't try to ask if I'm still in kindergarden
again, if you cannot answer that question, it just shows you up
,.. .... so you think china should have the right to play the
imperialist game now, just because other countries has done so in
the past ? .... again, see the last sentence in the above
chapter.
peoples the world over protested when the few allies invaded
iraq unilaterally without a UN mandate, but when people speak out
against China's occupation of tibet, it becomes china bashing ?
who's practicising double standards now ? .... you people are damm
cute ... don't try to pretend you didn't go around name calling
too, calling me ignorant and all that doesn't do anything, it just
shows that you refuse to see my arguments, ... your skewed cultural
prejudice still shows through clearly ... and yes, I am labelling
you a cultural chauvinist, and I have showed you above why I think
you are one .... you know why I'm calling you that ? ... because
you are defending the what is clearly undefendsible, unfathomably
... since you're not from the PRC ... chaps like blueray and
idiotbutcherer, they are from there, they don't hide it, I can
understand, since no one likes others to speak ill of their country
... what do you have to say, but a surfeit of racial pride ?
...
