another love lost...due to the social engineering

last SG · 2007-12-31T16:09:46+00:00

Isn't SDU and SDS merging (http://www.sgforums.com/forums/8/topics/103789)? How come so long still haven't?

sLeEpWaLkErInG SG

$$ will always be part of the thing to be discussed on the table.

the girl may love you for initial part of your inner self, but when her practical side comes into the picture, well nothing much can be said.

Most of the time, it is always peer pressure.
"look at my LV bag"
"my husband buy big diamond ring for me on my birthday"
"my husband got me a maid so that i can relax after my work"
"I no need to work cos my husband can make a lot of money"

I have already seen a few of my friends who are in agony now due to money matters. Too much money also problem, too little also not enough..

So best is to understand more of your other half before committing into a marriage, do not make innocent children of yours to suffer because of your wrong decision. They do not deserve to be in a broken family.

Cheers.

SpecOps87 SG

I totally agree with your above 2 points. I mean...come to think of it, not that I'm being a total MCP, but is it just me? Or is it that we men never succumb to peer pressure of the above variety. And yes...to girls out there whom think that just because your friends have luxurious overseas trips, LV bags, big ass diamond ring etc.etc...do think of the fact that have guys ever complain that you look horrible, ugly, say that you're fat?

Anyway...this problem will only get worse...it won't improve because society is driven by money. In school it may be the kid with the highest grades that speak loudest, but at the end of the day, in life its the one with the biggest bank account and the biggest spending power that speak the loudest.

So yes...let's just face it...man is selfish,but society just aids the process of us showing our true colours.

On a side note, this particular Mr.X's plan on Graduate's Mother's scheme...isn't that no different from what some German guy tried to during WW2? To purify the world by having a pure Aryan race?

JayJay3335 SG

in the end he gets pawned. mother nature is diverse creature...
look at the ecosystem: there are many plants and animals whic are so different with one another yet so similar and they contribute in a similar fashion to the survival of the ecosystem. ...trying to make them the same in all aspects will just backfire cos in the end its this diversity which drives nature's ecosystem and its a safeguard to prevent a particular species from gaing power to control everything else.

Mother nature is brilliant. She knows what she wants

JayJay3335 SG

that mr. x's plan is the dumbest piece f sh&t i ever heard..

Love and attraction knows no boundaries

Just becos years ago the pouplation was not much educated ( less graduates) doesnt mean u can tell them all kinds of trash...

royston_ang SG

Mr X? Isn't it Mr Lee? Laughing

'If you don't include your women graduates in your breeding pool and leave them on the shelf, you would end up a more stupid society. The men don't believe me. Every year, I produce them the results. You marry that kind of a wife, you get this kind of a result. They close their minds. I think we are not going to become as good a society as we were with each generation...This is the basic stock of success. If you don't have this, you can have the best human resources programme, but your human resource is poor.' - MM Lee

(On improving Singapore?s gene pool by getting graduate women married - 1983 National Day Rally)

Isn't that's why there are SDU for the graduate and SDS for the non-graduate?

On Graduate Women & Lowly-Educated Men

HyperFocal SG

... the old bloke must have been a Farmer in his previous life...

.. he should have gone into Farming instead of politics...

googoomuck SG

It would be amazing if people believed what he had said.

He has a great mind no doubt because his pet theories took a long time to be proven wrong.

He said that in the 80s. Now it's 2008. We can see that it has not gone anywhere.

For example, we have Hairdo Lim, Bargain Hen , The Horse, Georgie Boy, BioTech hub Yeo and many more....

And his own family? Good genes or bad genes? We all should know by now.

SpecOps87 SG

Wah...I never say Mr. X is who hor...I just heard lah. Not confirm...just heard. Don't liddat leh...skali ISD come catch we all siah. Tsk tsk...Anyway...who say Mr. Lee's family no good genes? All CEO, Director, Chairman...where got no good? How many of you can be CEO, Director and Chairman in your life? I think at most people become their CCA chairman only. But right...I dunnoe man...mebbe The Man and ERP King...how they get their statistics? I think all must study accounting to give this type of fantastic figures...tsktsk...I should have studied accounting too so can anyhow also pluck nice number, but tell people that we are not making money.

SpecOps87 SG

CannyOng SG

U don't know Mr.X got one grandson who is all white color one meh? U don't know Mr.X son.. Mr Lee married twice. Do u know why?

royston_ang SG

Got source to back that he said all this.

"In 1983, Lee sparked the 'Great Marriage Debate' when he encouraged Singapore men to choose women with high education as wives. He was concerned that a large number of graduate women were unmarried. Some sections of the population, including graduate women, were upset by his views. Nonetheless, a match-making agency Social Development Unit (SDU) was set up to promote socialising among men and women graduates." - quote from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Kuan_Yew

googoomuck SG

Take it easy. I cannot identify who is Mr. X either. Let's just give him a nick you-know-who.

royston_ang SG

Right, because of you-know-who, we have SDU and SDS.

Should have merge these 2 organizations long ago. It's a waste of duplicated resources, and the chances of match is much higher with a bigger database.

reddressman SG

so , you thinking that sg is for some types of people and not others?

what a nice country ?

the ppl ask for it. they get.

SBS3625D SG

Each to his own.

Who are you calling stupid?

SpecOps87 SG

Eh...white colour leh...we are beige he is white to show his elite status. WHITE HORSE as they say, got super power one. Dun play play hor! Mr. X son married twice...I got hear before. But rite...they just trying to spread their elite gene pool what. So that we have a more dynamic and ever-progressing economy...that is their social responsibility...don't you think?

Well...to the non-graduate male community...you can always turn to Ms. Palm who's always single and avb. or to find mail-order brides. Ha... I've said this once...and I will say it again...SG will be a failure of its own success. Its become so bad...that ytd, while posting my first post here I was at Starbucks and chatting with a Filipino colleague from my internship company. He's saying that he will just put his kids through Pri. and Sec. here before migrating elsewhere though they are PR already, just to make sure they use the resource well.tsktsk

Yunhaier SG

Originally posted by JayJay3335:
know this couple, they are my frens but slightly older :

girls basically hardworking smart and of decent character
Guy is also the same...

thy were going on for a few years (not a crush as it doesnt last that long) before she dedcided to call it quits, reason given that she cant stay with him due to his low pay and its hard for them to start family

:= basically due to economics, a good couple separated.

there's nothing wrong with this guy as he is also a graduate. He never fooled arnd , he never drinked and smoked, never raised a finger against the girl nothing he did ... but why it happened? girl being practical?

she is a degree holder and him a poly grad..somehow things would have been different if they were in another country...

analysing this , it has been shown in research that ladies or girls choose their mate according to social engineering and environment. this is a problem many sg males face..
it may also be one of the factors contributing to the low birth rate

apart from that , on the married couples front divorce rates go up in times of ecnomic crisis as was seen in 2004.

the reason why some people say that this is not a good place to start a family.

[b]*Note to mods: this is not aunt agony topic and is not meant to gain advice..
the above situation can happen to anyone , anytime.

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If it's another love lost due to external environment - then this love you speak of is no doubt questionable.

Love is a constant - not a variable. Idea

Cheers

charlize SG

That's the way the country is heading unfortunately.

It's becoming like a 6 star hotel for certain people while the rest have to serve the minority just to eke out a living. Laughing

justcooler SG

Well i am surprise that the leadership of sg is not having any campaign to remedy such negative thinking and behaviours.

lagrangian1125 SG

Honestly, women in their late 20 s will only look for men with a stable income and mature.

So if u cant even support urself and still need parents to support u financially. Forget about love, forget about getting married. Men of this kind are born losers, the scums of the society.

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