No Singaporean will go Hungry

last SG · 2007-12-03T21:10:05+00:00

We are close to that, we are a hybrid regime, maybe one rung higher than communism. If we try harder, we will go back to Monarchy and Feudalism.

kok2006 SG

i am hungry now

Daddy!! SG

its a Malay couple with two kids. both worked and lived in HDB for roughly ten years before they upgraded to a condo at Joo Chiat recently. very ordinary working class.

HyperFocal SG

Maybe, the next thing we know, we'd be reading about them being charged for Tax Evasion....

Laughing

Daddy!! SG

they are mainstream working class, CPF contributors, malay family.

Gazelle SG

many middle class people living in Singapore dont pay income tax.

Daddy!! SG

Laughing ,

they wont dare because they contribute CPF.

Daddy!! SG

i know of another Malays family who lived in Jurong with 4 children. Both worked as real estate agents and now live in a landed terrace (99 years) in the east.

Daddy!! SG

the story tells of a reversal of trends. In the 1930s, most of the immigrants were europeans. In the 21st century, asians (20% of canadian population). Immigrants in Australia is >20% population and most of them are asians.

http://new,s.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7128172.stm

if current trend continues, half the population at both countries are asians.

Jontst78 SG

I meant, whether middle working class owning 2 properties, whether norm or mainstream. Whether is it common for middle income earners to own 2 or more residential units, or is it the exception? Did you have any idea what was the combined income of that family you mention/cited as an example? Non extravagant lifestyle doesnt mean the income is low really.

Which brings be back to my previous post.

Although for a family of 2 kids(aged 10 or less) with household income of about 4k, servicing 2 housing residential properties. I would find it a struggle tho.

Combined household income of 4k is middle working class. Combined income of 8k also middle working class. Actually a huge difference for one family.

CX SG

Good for them... So... What about the pple sleeping in the parks, under the void decks and generally, on the streets?

You gonna tell them to get a room? Mr. Green

Daddy!! SG

ask their children why

qlqq9 SG

In a way it is true that FTs are helping Singapore (citizens, I am not sure though). There are good reasons why FTs are allowed here, Singapore lacks certain expertise and we need them to contribute, to impart what they have to offer. But you may not be aware that there are jobs that Singaporeans are capable of doing but FTs or FWs are doing the jobs. Just got to know a company in Singapore hires a foreigner from India or Bangladesh to work as domestic helper/cleaner in the office. A local firm hires China Chinese to work as engineers, account assistant and clerk.

qlqq9 SG

All electricity is off except the switch to the fridge. They have on their part do adjustment on the meter. How could meter reading be almost the same when the family was out for two weeks. I don't believe the meter reading stuff. I am not the only one facing this, heard many people complain about it before.

qlqq9 SG

Sounds like your main motive here is to stir up trouble and find fault with people. Mind your words and attitude. Mr. Green

CX SG

I've already explored it for u in my previous post.

It could be cos they don't have children. It could be cos they made bad decisions that led to them not having anyone to take care of them and them not having the resources to take care of themselves.

I can't say and I certainly can't judge.

My point is, shouldn't they be given some help for no better reason then that its a terrible way to spend one's twilight years sleeping on the streets.

They are singaporeans too and if they need some help, they should at least get some help.

I may not agree with the decisions they made that caused them to be in that position, but I still would not say "orh-bi-good, u deserve it".

I agree largely with your point that there are many who have pulled themselves up by their own boot-strap. But it is cruel and just plain not funny to tell that to someone who has no shoes on.

will4 SG

I read in the paper some low income families earning between $600 to $800 have to moved to JB, Malaysia to save money.

genie99 SG

Problem is some of us don't want to ASK for help cos malu. Like alot of old people rather work ganang guni also dowan open mouth and beg. I think that the govt should realise this and just "automatic" bring the benefits to them lor .... what helpline? As if alot of the old folks keep themselves up to date with helpline numbers? Most dont even noe pizza hut number Wink Some dont even noe how to go about their CPF lol

mancha SG

In Singapore you must be a really terok case, then only you will receive welfare.
So if you own a HDB flat, with wife and kids, and you are penniless, no welfare for you, You got a house, what! That is the reasoning.
You have to be totally 'down and out' to receive a paltry handout form the government.

Your mobile phone better not ring, when you are pouring out your sob story to the minister. Laughing

robertteh SG

Terok yes like the Mr. Tan who jumped the MRT. If you ever find out more Mr. Tan actually had applied for assistance but his request was rejected because of some other factors - may be his having a hand phone or income exceeding the help limit by a few dollars.

Therefore as long as they can give an impression of helping like the terok cases they can jolly well wash their hands of the many cases of financial crisis leading to suicides, divorces or domestic squabbles and they will be able to carry on like what they have been doing over the past 40 years of over-taxing people and profiteering to serve their own interest and claim success.

Just imagine we pay the ministers millions of salaries and they do not even have to work for success as they could just keep increasing taxes and charges to claim success.

Daddy!! SG

no.1 super poor people is a very small % of the population.

no. 2 super poor people exist as a minority in the G8 also. democracy in G8 did not save these super poor people. in fact, you find even more of these people in USA.

no. 3 you can expect dr chee to be one of them, those who refuse help adamantly.

if you think you have seen the poorest people of the world in singapore, please open your eyes wider.

if your politics is to take care of this very small % of the population and hammer the PAP for it, i am sorry the majority does not agree.

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