No Singaporean will go Hungry

last SG · 2007-12-03T21:10:05+00:00

We are close to that, we are a hybrid regime, maybe one rung higher than communism. If we try harder, we will go back to Monarchy and Feudalism.

genie99 SG

And why would the majority not agree? Cause it does not benefit them maybe?

I would like to believe that we would perhaps give the poor Priority? Or is it true that we have no dignity...... or self respect? Meybe its time to rob our parents of $ hmm?

We have lots to learn from foreign societies Wink

Gazelle SG

1) You mean you need help?

2) You are not one of them, so please dont talk like you are one.

3) If you claim to know so much about them, then why arent you helping them in the first place. Is it because you are only good to be a computer hero?

Gazelle SG

Originally posted by genie99:

And why would the majority not agree? Cause it does not benefit them maybe?

I would like to believe that we would perhaps give the poor [b]Priority? Or is it true that we have no dignity...... or self respect? Meybe its time to rob our parents of $ hmm?

We have lots to learn from foreign societies Wink [/b]

yes, learn not to repeat the same mistake.

Jontst78 SG

The problem is preventing more people from becoming down and out.

1) Perhaps a minimum wage law. Maybe a monthly rate for full time, an hourly rate for Part-timers. Need not be very high, like in Aussie for example, where its 500 plus a week. A calculated amount so that whoever works a secured a lively-hood.

Enough to pay for roof (rental or otherwise) and enuff to settle 3 meals a day, basic clothing, bus fare, clean water and other basic amenities. Maybe around 1.2k? just a very rough estimate. I don't see it raising business cost very much. Employers and business owners are not even paying their employees enough to afford the above amenities will feel the most impact tho, and employers in this category deserve that impact.

2) Welfare only for those who cannot work, unfit for work (medicaly etc..)

genie99 SG

1) Don't need help. So no right to talk? Wink

2) Doesn't mean i'm not one of them i should not voice concerns over it. If i am Singaporean i should have a right to voice my opinion about their general welfare.

3) Wouldn't changing the system so they automatically get the benefits help them? I don't have the power to do that. Not a computer hero.... and there's no pt in that anyway if nobody knows who i really am.

Gazelle SG

The biggest beneficiary to (1) will not be Singaporeans but the foreign workers in Singapore

Gazelle SG

If you are not a social workers who have personal experience in dealing with the needy, please refrain from representing their views and needs.

Jontst78 SG

Well, if an employee is taking minimum wage... then its safe to assume, low skilled worker right? Perhaps then, a heavier levy can be induced for hiring of low skilled foreign workers. Maybe concessions for Construction sector, depending on the sector performance at the time.

genie99 SG

Sad but it makes sense right? I really feel we should be more proactive in Singapores affairs be it ill-informed ( in this case myself ... coffee chats with them is all the exp i had). It is my opinion that "doesn't affect me dun kaypoh" syndrome should not be adopted. I also suspect that's why some of our youth dun bother to vote..... don't affect me yet mah aiya bo chap lo Crying or Very sad

CX SG

What rubbish! So by that logic, if u're not a minister or an MP then u cannot comment on new laws and govt policies lah? Rolling Eyes

And I'm not a doctor nor a nurse, so I also cannot tell someone who's sneezing and coughing away that he looks ill and he ought to seek medical attention?

We may not be social workers, but we have 2 eyes and a heart. It is normal to have a sense of concern for the less fortunate.

As concerned citizens, it is the right and the responsibility of everyone to voice out their concerns and discuss about them.

Gazelle SG

If you are not a doctor and you have never been diagnose with cancer and have never taken care of a cancer patient. will you be in position to comment how a cancer patient feeling and the degree of pain they are going through?

You can comment on the law and you can speculate about their intention etc, but you are in no position to represent the Singapore community based on your personal experience, interest and agenda.

CX SG

I'm not suggesting that u prescribe snake oil and burnt joss paper to the patient. Only that he looks sick and concerned individuals should advise him to seek medical attention.

And is anybody here claiming to "represent the Singapore community"?

You are simply imposing an absurd gag-order on everyone: that if u dunno EVERYTHING about something, don't say ANYTHING.

That's not right. We are merely concerned individuals here making a point about what we see, what we've experienced and what we feel. Its called an opinion and a perspective.

Nobody mortal can claim to represent universal truth, and we can all disagree with each other, but we must also preserve the collective rights of each other to discuss and debate various points of view.

If a person is talking turd, the errorneous view should be corrected by someone who knows better. But u cannot tell anyone that they have no right to make their views known.

Gazelle SG

If you have never been involve in helping the poor, please shut the fcuk up and stop making up stories about them.

fymk SG

If your friend has been diagnosed with cancer , they tell you constantly that they are in pain. However in your logic , if you are not the doctor/you were never diagnosed with cancer /and you are certainly not taking care of them since their family does, you are still not in a position to do anything in their best interest at all even if you know something is not right?

What a load of garbage.

fymk SG

CX one thing you should know about Gazelle . Only his opinion and whoever supports some of his feeble minded views matters in sgforums in his eyes. Yours don't if you start asking him questions he cannot answer.

Gazelle SG

1) Have you been involved in social work to help the poor in Singapore?

2) Do you have a friend who is collecting cardboard and aluminium cans in Singapore

3) Have you been collecting cardboard before?

If you have never been involved personally doing any of the above, please shut up.

typical arm chair critic trying to be robinhood.

CX SG

Suddenly, u sound a lot like Andrew... Jumping to conclusions, making judgmental comments about others, only caring about what YOU have to say.

u don't know crap about me and I don't need to prove anything to u.

I do however, find your views callous, uncaring and insensitive.

Gazelle SG

Mind telling us what have you done to help the poor?

fymk SG

LOL to question 1. I see no need to justify anything to you.

What gives you the right to talk? You are just a snob who thinks lowly of your fellow Singaporeans in need and trumpets your so call achievements to run others down.

So why don't you do yourself a favor and take your own advice.

Gazelle SG

you have answer none of my question...whats new...arm chair critic

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