No Singaporean will go Hungry

last SG · 2007-12-03T21:10:05+00:00

We are close to that, we are a hybrid regime, maybe one rung higher than communism. If we try harder, we will go back to Monarchy and Feudalism.

fymk SG

Mind telling us what you yourself have done? Besides throwing a few cents into the donation can of a volunteer?

Gazelle SG

fymk, I cant remember you telling us about anything.

http://sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=263474

fymk SG

And you , none of mine, so wassup ....arm chair snob?

fymk SG

Have you done anything besides donate money ?

I don't see a need to brag about doing charity work. Charity work is an altruistic act - not some act that you can bring into the forums to declare how great you are.

Gazelle SG

If you talk the talk, you better walk the walk. If you dont walk the walk, just keep quiet and stop pretending like robinhood.

fymk SG

If you want to talk the talk, you better walk the walk and not trip. If you trip, sometimes you fall facedown smack on the ground.

CX SG

Totally agree man... What the heck has he been smoking?

Gazelle SG

please dont pretend to miss my question.

what have you done to help the poor?

fymk SG

Speak for yourself first.

Gazelle SG

Can I see you in a nurse uniform first? Laughing

fymk SG

Are you as saintly as Mother Theresa first?

CX SG

I do what I can and I don't owe u or any other arrogant, self righteous jerk-off here any explanation or justification.

Daddy!! SG

Originally posted by genie99:

And why would the majority not agree? Cause it does not benefit them maybe?

I would like to believe that we would perhaps give the poor [b]Priority? Or is it true that we have no dignity...... or self respect? Meybe its time to rob our parents of $ hmm?

We have lots to learn from foreign societies Wink [/b]

what i meant was the majority would not agree with you if you should blame PAP for the small % of the population.

you probably know that in countries with minimum wage and welfare etc, there are also people who die of cold during winter every year because they could not afford the heating costs etc. at least our poor are endowed with nature's kindness to them.

poor people exist throughout the world in both communistic and democratic countries.

mancha SG

"No Singaporean will go hungry" is nothing but a political punchline.

There will always be those who become destitutes. No matter which country. And these destitutes should not be seized upon to critize the government. They are not proof that the government is incompetent.

To live, anywhere in this world, some self discipline is required. Once this self discipline is lacking, it will be downhill for that individual. No matter what economic or political system a country is run on, the individual must exercise some responsibility for his own well being. This is a brutal truth.

Therefore the old lady collecting cardboards, or cans, is not the fault of the government, if she chooses to continue doing what she can do rather than reach out for a handout.
And that man, with brackish and tattered clothes, and long unkempt mattered hair, with a bag of his possessions, has lost his will to live. Could be a love lost, or personal tragedy. Still that is his choice.

But for those willing to receive help, there is help. And more help. That is what Dr. Balakrishna is saying.
But the availability for this help, many a times escape those in the "sandwich" class. There are people there who are also genuinely in need. But help is not for them. Because they own their fully paid up four-room flat.
But then again this has to be pitted against the guy who drives a Mercedes, and want the government to pay his utilities bill for him, because he can't afford to. He, his wife and children can't sleep without aircon.

Therefore there should be a more equitable means test, for government assistance, rather than the "you must be really down and out" to qualify for a paltry assistance.

Daddy!! SG

"more equitable means test" = reading people's minds.

how do you read people's mind?

qlqq9 SG

You asked the forumer here to refrain from representing their views and needs. How do you find out he or she is representing them? If you are not happy that this person voice out concern and show compassion, tell us the reasons why this person should not?

If you show no compassion, don't stop people from showing compassion and concern. You sound very cold blooded like the PAP. You seem all the way out to discourage people to be kind.

Anyone who has no stupid brain will know that nobody will go hungry in Singapore. What we need as the people of Singapore is we want a gahment that is in touch with the common people's needs and to have undying commitment to serve public wholeheartedly.

qlqq9 SG

eh, regardless of the %, people need help, just render help to them why be so calculative to talk about %. Have a heart for people it will do you good. Be broad minded, compassionate and kind, you who name yourself "Daddy".

Spnw07 SG

Agree. There are lots of views expressed in this post, but I happen to be able to come across the above which neither supports nor blames, either the govt or citizens entirely.

I fully agree that that an individual must bear some responsibility for his/her own well-being. Or else, everyone would be arguing endlessly on different interpretations of who is really needy and how to help the needy.

That said, I agree fully with the last paragraph on a more equitable means test for government assistance.

Daddy!! SG

talking about helping the poor is afterall only talking, qlqq9. what i did personally, i need not report or show off to you.

of course, you would prefer making use of the plight of the poor people to launch an attack on PAP. that is to me unscrupulous and having a heart which is black in colour.

genie99 SG

I do apologise for misinterpreting your point... was under the impression that you were against helping them out.

Well to be quite frank the goverment has to hold responsibility if there are citizens who fall through the safety net as in the case of that 1% it is their job .... whether another party could have done better is debatable

people in countries with minimum wage systems who die of cold or watever calamity due to poverty do so mostly bcos

a) they do not want to work

b) they cant get a job

If its a) they deserve it in my opinion. if its bcos they cant get a job then the govt shld intervene and create more jobs. But its never c) work but still dun earn enuf cos the minimum wage system aims to eliminate that

Poor people exist everywhere i agree..... but how they become poor is equally important is it bcos they dont want to work or cos they cant earn enuf even when working?

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