Originally posted by Zulkiflim:
Salaam,
Just wish to point out that almost every coutnry includin the US
started with a minority who grew belligernt when their number
massed up and asserted their right,egthe war with the
indians...
Same goes for the Australia and South Africa.
such situation are the normal cycle of human
transfers.
Are you providing the reasons
''for the Muslims to
colonise UK'' now that their population in the UK
has reached a criticial mass ?
You must be dreaming to make such comparisons that you have given,
as those who migrated as colonist in New Territories were more
powerful than the native residents - and had shamedlessly
subjugated the Red Indians in North America, Aborigenes in
Australia, and the natives in South Africa.
Unfortunately, those communities were backward and remained
backward to this day except for the South Africans, who uplifted
themselves with education and assimilation into the 21st
Century.
Even int he US there is a debate on wheter the Latinos should sing
the National anthem in their own language..LOL..
Do you think that such a debate
will lead to any successful outcome ?
For a debate such as this to even happen, merely reflect the
openess of the system in the USA.
Will such a debate even exist in any Middle-eastern Countries,
whose Islamic Religion has been given generous space by the Global
Communities, but whose other Global Religions have not been
similarly well treated nor accomodated in their exclusively
politically protected Islamic countries ?
This line of debate serves no purpose.
For a race to be assimilated then it must be duly representated in
the goverment,as of now even tho the number of muslim in the
western world is huge they are under represented and their views
unheards.
What is the basis of your claim in
''the number of muslims in the
western world is huge they are under represented and their views
unheards'' ?
This simply show your limited exposure but dependant on the typical
zenophobic outcry that typify a selfish mind.
Are you aware that while your traditional Imams are trained in the
Middle-east and Pakistani madrasahs based on the methods and
studies that date back to 'Medievial Times' -
it is the Western Countries that are making efforts to support
their domestic Muslim faithfuls by providing ''21st Century Training of
Imams'' that are revelant to the needs of their
Communities in this MODERN AGE ?
In Holland, a master plan has been created for Dutch universities to train the imams who preach in the
country's 436 mosques.
The government has singled out imams
as key influences on the young and is demanding that they must
preach a moderate Islam in tune with traditionally liberal Dutch
society. Nearly all imams now in the Netherlands have been
"imported" from abroad, mostly from Morocco and Turkey, where most
of the one million Muslims here come from. Many come only for a few
years, speak no Dutch, and have little idea of life in
Europe.
"They preach like they preached back home in the mountains," said
Professor Henk Vroom of Amsterdam's Free University. "They tell the
Muslims not to have contact with non-believers, and the people
leave the mosque and see nothing but non-believers around them.
What are they supposed to do?"
races irregardless of majority or minority will always somehow be
integrated into one another,do any chinese person not eat prata or
cook curry or eat chilli crab?
Or dont any malay eat hor fun,or char siew pow,,albeit halal
ones?
ever heard of Singlish?LOL
such interaction is inevitable,but the barriers are rising not due
to differnces but due DESIRE NOT TO INTEGRATE,,maybe by both sides
or by one side.
Does consuming of each other's
community dishes indicate ''integration'' or
simply a ''gastronomic
adventurism'' ?
Social integration is more than gastronomic, and will require an
acceptance of social and political values of the host
country.
Can Imams re-interprete traditional Islamic teachings and abandon
its 'Medievial Values', to
accomodate the 21st Century Values from this modern Global
Community ?
I believe that in the future more and more countries will have no
choice but to cater to and support Islmaic views,as population
makes a poltitician.
Your statement do not reflect the
Muslim migrants accepting the environments of the Host Country, but
EXPECT
the HOST Country to accept the ancient medievial values and
traditions of the Muslim migrants.
Inshallah,you can check for the birth rate of muslim in western
coutnries as compared to their counterparts.
A good comparision would be Palestine and Isrealis
Palestinian birth rate is 3~4X while the Isrealis are
stagnant..
No need to go that far, Singapore
alone has shown our Muslim brethens to out-perform the other ethnic
communities, despite being in the group being in need of most
economical and social help.
Are you ready for living in the 21st Century ?
