Salaam,
Are you providing the reasons ''for the Muslims to colonise UK''
now that their population in the UK has reached a criticial mass
?
You must be dreaming to make such comparisons that you have given,
as those who migrated as colonist in New Territories were more
powerful than the native residents - and had shamedlessly
subjugated the Red Indians in North America, Aborigenes in
Australia, and the natives in South Africa.
Unfortunately, those communities were backward and remained
backward to this day except for the South Africans, who uplifted
themselves with education and assimilation into the 21st
Century.
Salaam,
Is might right?
Should you enslave and seek dominion just becasue othersa re lesser
than you?
But i am happy that you do accept that the hostory did show that
US,South Africa dn Australia did subjugate and oppresee and went to
war after their population grew and found the restriction of the
indigenous people unbearable.
As the verse goes,as a that can fly will always wish to fly
free..
And i amnot providing reason,i am merely showing you historical
fact that any race of any religion WILL enforce their right when
they become a majority minority.
can you tell me,what is your definition of living in the 21st
century?
Do you think that such a debate will lead to any successful
outcome ?
For a debate such as this to even happen, merely reflect the
openess of the system in the USA.
Will such a debate even exist in any Middle-eastern Countries,
whose Islamic Religion has been given generous space by the Global
Communities, but whose other Global Religions have not been
similarly well treated nor accomodated in their exclusively
politically protected Islamic countries ?
This line of debate serves no purpose.
Actually,as i have said,the US goverment are AGAINST the Latinos
singing the anthem in their language.
So in this instacne the Latinos are using their numbers to support
thier culture and identity,to assimilate but not to forget who they
are.
And in Islamic coutnries,many coem from different races.
We look different have different skin but have one faith.
We may speak differnt but they way we pray is the same.
So Islam does not erode your culture not race not nationality,it is
but a part of it.
What is the basis of your claim in ''the number of muslims in
the western world is huge they are under represented and their
views unheards'' ?
This simply show your limited exposure but dependant on the typical
zenophobic outcry that typify a selfish mind.
Are you aware that while your traditional Imams are trained in the
Middle-east and Pakistani madrasahs based on the methods and
studies that date back to 'Medievial Times' - it is the Western
Countries that are making efforts to support their domestic Muslim
faithfuls by providing ''21st Century Training of Imams'' that are
revelant to the needs of their Communities in this MODERN AGE
?
In Holland, a master plan has been created for Dutch universities
to train the imams who preach in the country's 436 mosques.
MM,,i am confused,here i am talking about representation in the
goverment while you are talking about...mideval teaching of
imams?
In Islam to be an Imam is simple,you just need to learn the Qurna
and Sunnah,that is all.
the quran remain the same for 1400 years and the Sunnah has been
compiled 100 years after the Propehts Muhammad saw death.
They remain available for one and all to read and learn.
And in China the Chinese have their own taught Imams,Singapore Imam
mostly comes from Al Azhar university.Or some even from other arabs
coutnries.
And in Islam there is no such thing as moderate or extremist,if you
are a muslim then you are a muslim.
The laws of Islam cannot be changed to suit mankind but rahter for
mankind to suit it.
We have many laws that makes us unhappy but it is the right thing
to do.
An exaple.Islam is the only religion that command a man to marry
only one wife and if one can afford to maximum 4.
And the stipulation in the world fair mean,what ever one wife
has,another should aslo have.
An eg,if one were to have a bungalow,the other has the right to
one,a diamond ring and so on..
Homosexuality is to be condemned in islam.
Does consuming of each other's community dishes indicate
''integration'' or simply a ''gastronomic adventurism'' ?
Social integration is more than gastronomic, and will require an
acceptance of social and political values of the host
country.
Can Imams re-interprete traditional Islamic teachings and abandon
its 'Medievial Values', to accomodate the 21st Century Values from
this modern Global Community ?
food is also play a part of integration,it is na ice breaker if
you will.
take singalish,would we have it if we dont talk to each toehr,we
assimilate and integrate.
And the laws of Islam does not change to suit man.
Allah sent Islam for a guindace for men,not for its
amendment.
Our creators knows us best.
Your statement do not reflect the Muslim migrants accepting the
environments of the Host Country, but EXPECT the HOST Country to
accept the ancient medievial values and traditions of the Muslim
migrants.
No i do not expect anyone to conform to their host coutnry if
they are an immigrant.
Would a Chinese forget his heritage and culture just becasue he is
ABC(American Born Chinese)..no
Is there no chinatown in every US township?
Is not Mandarin or any other oreintal language used in such
palces?
can yu tell me of one law that you would consider midieval?Or many
if you can,we can discuss it..
No need to go that far, Singapore alone has shown our Muslim
brethens to out-perform the other ethnic communities, despite being
in the group being in need of most economical and social
help.
Are you ready for living in the 21st Century ?
Muslim brethren outperfrom other ethnic communities?
cna you provide some detail casue it is a bit vague.
And i am living in the 21st cettury,and Islam is for all of time
till the end.
inshallah
