Underhand tactics used in sgforums

last SG · 2007-06-28T15:58:37+00:00

You said it all!!! As it is now, I dont see unity among the people of Singapore. Many times, when others or I voice our concerns about how the country is ru...

will4 SG

Perhaps u might want to tell us how to improve the situation in Spore if u truly capable. No matter how local tried to feedback sometimes it never work.

soul_rage SG

Hi Idiot (this is not me calling you, its you yourself that gave yourself this label):
China citizens are all over the world, globally distributed, but they are ready to go back to help the mainland should something serious happen. Americans are all over the world, but they are also ready to go back to help US should something happen. Are you implying with the above that you think the americans and chinese living abroad are all hypocrites?

Conversely, I want to ask you, are all Singaporeans who remain in singapore noble people, or are there hypocrites amongst us?

I seemed to recall you would not hesitate to steal from those that are not in Singapore. Is this not a sign of hypocrisy as well, pretending to be a noble Singaporean but having thoughts of evil?

Your ignorance and stupidity irks us as well

pervertboi SG

ok i bump.... Laughing

hloc SG

+1 Mr. Green

sgdiehard SG

running away helps??? if I tell you how would you stand up and do it? I never said I were capable, I just haven't given up. Mr. Green

sgdiehard SG

YOu again, don't waste my time. go get yourself a life.

There are many Singaporean living overseas, but they remain Singaporean, they have not migrated. Many Chinese citizens all over the world have not migrated, they would go back and support PRC or ROC, those who migrated would only help their relatives and friends who remain there. You think the american chinese would help PRC?

You can't even make the difference between those who migrate and those who stay overseas, you bloody pathetic. get your mind clear before you come up here and spill rubbish.

Fingolfin_Noldor SG

Are you an absolute retard, so sorely lacking in intelligence that you have to actually post something so lame, that even a real monkey can do better?

I have quite frankly, no time to banter words with fools.

Zelphon SG

Hi to all,

I have been reading a lot of anti-govt posts and even some articles posted by CSJ.

Personally, I do agree that I am beginning to be influenced by all the anti-PAP sentiments.

I do not wish to comment abt anyone but for me, after witnessing the stark difference in PAP's polices made before and after the General Election; after listening to LHL's speech at National Rally; after reading all the articles and the big hoo-haa abt AMK MP Wee Siew Kim's daughter abt Mr Derek's Wee plight; after looking at the ridiculous pay increase in Ministerial salary; after the recent article in Today's abt some Sitoh guy who lost his sit to Cham See Tong and his refusal to meet the residents after his defeat, etc...

I am beginning to feel that Singapore is becoming more like a corporation rather than a country. Seems to me that Money is more important than a sense of public service. Data and data have been published to show that the economy is doing well but not much is being shown to highlight the plight of the poor and aged who helped build singapore to what it is today.

Best of all, the poor is being used as an excuse to raise more taxes under the pretence to help them. To me, raising the GST to help the poor is a riduculous notion.

With regards to education, it is sad to say that our govt is providing free education to bright China students and hope that these people will continue to serve Singapore after their university graduation. The fact is that many of these people fled back to China after their graduation from local universities and did not stay to contribute to Singapore. Personally, I do hear a lot of these stories from my PRC friends in NTU. While the locals are stranded in debts for local university education, the foreigners like these PRC students gets to enjoy free education sponsored by the locals taxpayer's money. I often wonder why the government do not wish to invest in our local people.

As for the cost of living, Singapore has crept up to be the 14th most expensive city to live in. I wonder how that news is gonna affect the urban poor that is increasing in proportion each day. After spending 6 mths in Shanghai, China as well as 1 and a half month in Tucson, USA, I realised that the cost of living in these 2 cities are comparatively lower than Singapore. For Shanghai's case, assuming that I am drawing a local salary, the proportion of my income spent on food is lower than that in Singapore. Same case for USA. What does that mean in the long term? For me, it means that I can get to save more proportion of my income in the long run in these places rather than in Singapore. No wonder there is rampant talk about the erosion of savings in Singapore.

I do not know much details about the many govt policies made, nor do I really care to know who my MPs are. But the one thing I am beginning to realise is that our govt has lost their sense of public service and sad to say, one day I may really migrate to other countries for the sake of survival.

soul_rage SG

Dear Idiot:
Once again, you expose your lack of knowledge of other nationalities, and are basing your posts from your own point of view, which is myopic and selfish

Chinese citizens MIGRATE, but in their hearts, they have always that national spirit. All it takes is for China to have a crisis, and Chinese from all over the world will come back to help China.

If you are so narrow-minded in your thinking, let me relate you to history. When the Japanese attacked China, who helped China? Not the non-Chinese foreigners, but largely Chinese from all over the world. (Chinese who aren't PRCs included, inclusive of Singapore Chinese, American Chinese, etc).

Pls stop making us laugh with your severe lack of knowledge and stupidity. I sincerely implore you to stop pretending to be a patriot and insult all true patriots here.

AndrewPKYap SG

This sentence touched a soft spot in me... it seems like to them, all the credit go to themselves and other people are for exploitation...

soul_rage SG

The pro-govt supporters can continue to delude themselves, but as I said, many of my friends lost hope for Singapore, the day the ministers raised their pay. That one single move destroyed all the credit the past PAP people did, as it serves to show that this batch of leaders are self-serving, and materialistic.

You would think that the top talents are not affected by this, but I was surprised to find many of my friends from Biomedical, IT, Engineering, Accounting (many of these who have obtained scholarships and have completed their bonds), etc losing all respect for the govt, and planning an exodus from this place.

soul_rage SG

The old and aged are those who helped Singapore to what it is today, and there are many forumers here who support PAP who do not realise they are ungrateful and selfish people when they do not even consider the plight of these old people (who are doing dish-washing, cleaning, etc work today)

Singapore WAS NOT built by LKY only
Singapore WAS built by every Singaporean who toiled hard during those times

and look what is happening to them now

AndrewPKYap SG

This sentence touched a soft spot in me... it seems like to them, all the credit go to themselves and other people are for exploitation...

Exclamation

laurence82 SG

we were promised good life 40 years ago if we work hard for it

so what happened to these old people who actually had worked hard?

why are there increasing number of senior citizens begging, searching bins for used cans, work in Macdonalds etc..?

and the increasing plight of victims of poverty, homelessness and diseases that generate numerous charity shows?

its a sign which the government is clearly ignoring

crazy monkey SG

tok so much post your real name and job here lah Laughing

farking clone

morbid4ever SG

Hmm well, I think that there are loyal ppl overseas but there are many that aint too. A good examples are our ancestors coming from china and their descendant dont really give a hoot about China now.

However if u notice how the Jews teach their children, u probably realized they are very patriotic to their ppl and race.

In summary, I think it is more important how strong those oversea sporean have their ties with spore and how they teach their children so that the tie remain strong. It is unfair to say ALL who migrate are "quitters" and not quite correct to say citizens like PRC and Americans are that loyal to their country despite they have migrated.

soul_rage SG

The point I wish to make, is that USA and China have a nationalistic spirit, that I feel is generally lacking in the majority of our people. This nationalistic spirit is the one that can propel many to go back to their motherland to help it in times of crisis.

Why the lack of spirit? Coz Singapore is run too much like a corporation. It causes many people to become detached from the country. By removing Singaporeans' sense of belonging through the explicit limiting of their ability to vote in elections, and the lack of a genuine willingness to listen to the citizens, the PAP, in effect, is the one responsible for the current state of affairs today.

rane SG

Really? If it is true of what you said above, then those residents in the constituency with Lui as MP, shall not trust him fully. oops, better tell my relatives about it as some of them stay there.

If Lee hsien loong is serving the nation with sincerity, wholeheartedly he need not resort to such a way. Is he fearful? He has no calibre to be a PM, doubt he will list his objectives in governing Singapore over the past 3 years. Remember, he has his papa and SM Goh to help him, whatever happen and whatever it is he has someone to fall back on !!! He is just a very lucky man!!! If he is not lucky he will not be the PM. It is pure luck!!

rane SG

Probably that someone who started the thread on All out to defame our government wants to talk against people who are not happy with the pay and pay and to stop people from voicing negative comments, remarks, frustrations about the pay and pay. Boot licking the ruling party, suck up to them!!

Perhaps someone should start a thread that reads Come stop angkat the elites pay and pay.

Appreciate your thread title and motive in starting this thread to expose those people.

rane SG

wa , resort to pay for citizenship!!! Pathetic! Doing this at the expense of the people of singapore who are born and bred here!!! People, because we have lee hsien loong as our PM and this explains it!!! SM Goh may not be perfect, but he did not resort to this at the expense of the people of Singapore when he was our PM. SM Goh compared with lee hsien loong, is a more compassionate, kind PM. Just have to say, we are unlucky to have lee hsien loong as PM and on the contrary he is damn lucky to become the PM!

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