Originally posted by anonymous_dickhead:
I have been following this thread and I usually just read
for fun but I must say you guys are pretty mean to
AnonymousCoward... especially SnowLeopard.
hello AD, since you already profess to sympathise with AC and to be
in agweement with him, how do you convince us that you're not
unbiased when it comes to judging who had been mean to who (first
especially)?
Frankly, myself and I think most average and moderate Singaporeans
will tend to agree with AnonymousCoward, OxfordMushroom and
King108. Why vote for opposition party if those people are not up
to mark? We should look at the person instead of just voting
blindly on which party they come from. Those who have most to loose
like HDB, jobs etc etc will definitely want a strong person for his
ward and Singapore.
i do not deny that this perspective is very commonly taken by the
people. what i would like to question is its wisdom with respect to
the following:
are we not having double standards when it comes to passing
judgement about not being up to mark? truth is people by and large
also do not know the majority of the PAP candidates. but do they
question their backgrounds? do they question their standards? so
the same can be said about the many folks who vote for the PAP
without even knowing the PAP candidates well. are they also not
voting blindly as well? truth is, they'd probably vote for anybody
that comes from the PAP because it has been (erroneously) regarded
as the symbol of our success today.
secondly, many people like you, think that without the PAP, HDB
will collapse, jobs will be lost but do you even question the
wisdom of this thinking? will HDB function very differently, if at
all?
finally, given the current unfair protection of the incumbent,
there is no way (and no one has been able to show me how), the
opposition can ever wrest control from the PAP and that being the
case there is nothing to lose because like it or not, we would
still have the same government. on the other hand if we do not have
more alternative voices to represent us, we would surely be held
ransom again.
AnonymousCoward's comments are sacrastic, and most time mean, but
to his credit, he is being provoked by people who misunderstood his
comment. Especially in Snowleopard and AnonymousCoward's exchanges.
I must say Snowleopard started it first and AnonymousCoward is just
defending his points. Some forumers here can be so prejudice to
judge his because of his nickname and not read carefully his
comment and his points. He probably got fed up and refuse to
comment anymore.
since you are on his side, how do i know you're being fair to me
saying he is being provoked while i was unprovoked? how can you say
that i started it when the first insults were actually hurled by
him? before you say i am prejudiced, how do i know you yourself are
not being prejudiced? especially since you are siding with him
...
Isn't a good thing if the opposition can build up a strong
reputation for themselves and possibly become an alternative choice
for the government? But people can misunderstood this and call him
and others PAP's spy and insult them... sigh... you support
opposition, he support opposition but you guys fight internally. no
wonder opposition cannot fly.
in the first place how do you build reputation? do you build
reputation first before you get voted in or do you get voted in
first before you establish your reputation? how do you establish
your reputation if you do not get yourself voted in? do we know
ministers Khaw, Tharman or Ng Eng Heng before they became
ministers? the opposition cannot fly because they are chained to
the ground by the weight of the GRC. i have no wish to squabble
with anybody really. but if you insist on something that i feel is
fundamentally wrong and i'm able to tell you why, then i would
certainly do so. it is alright if you feel otherwise but do so with
rhyme and reason and not with insults.
... think about how average and moderate people like myself will
look at the opposition party and their supporters after reading
this thread. Your obstinacy to vote for the opposition regardless
of the quality of the party members will help loose precious votes
because they will think the opposition party members cannot
think.
but my obstinacy to vote for the opposition is the same as your
obstinacy to vote for the incumbent. how come my obstinacy is
viewed upon as inability to think while your obstinacy to vote for
PAP, which is really not that different from the opposition, is
seen as "can think"?