No human rights- Poor smokers

last SG · 2005-10-04T22:30:11+00:00

You don't know what you are talking about. I do..... The US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has classified secondhand smoke as a Group A carcinogen, w...

shade343 SG

This system could lead to abuse. What if the patient who suffers from lung cancer got it through second hand smoke? How would the doctors know whether she is lying or not?

oxford mushroom SG

No system is perfect but as it is, smokers have to pay a higher premium for medical insurance, for example. What if they lie? Well, don't get caught. If the insurance company finds out, they will not honour the policy. You can now detect components of cigarette smoke in lung tissues of smokers as well.

The health risk of smoking carries huge economic implications, not Hep A.

The link between smoking and a variety of cancers is indisputable. On an individual level, obviously not every smoker will get cancer but as a group, the causation is clear.

The government and pubs can consider allowing a toilet in the pub to be fitted with ventilation for smokers to puff themselves to death.

dragg SG

there is something wrong with the posters displayed at bus stations.

many complained that the qinzhuyi wordings are much bigger than the no smoking logo.

SilverPal SG

What's wrong with blasting my hifi system at 2am in the morning? As long as I do it only once a week... Or you can choose not to listen. In fact, my neighbours should be thanking me for the free music!

This is a mere variation of some fallacious arguments put forth by many smokers.

I guess its not so much about the health but rather the fact that some people prefer not to breathe in 2ng hand smoke, healthy or not.

Some ppl prefer not to eat meat, some prefer not to eat vegetables, some prefer to suck in 1st hand smoke, some prefer not to smell 2nd hand smoke.

I'm indifferent to the ban on smoking. I believe that ppl should be allowed to kill themselves at any rate they like. But it does vex me when I'm eating at a hawker centre and ppl are puffing and the cigerette smell infuses with my food. It is impractical to constantly change my position everytime the wind direction changes.

Consideration by both smokers and non-smokers would help tremendously. My smoker friends try to stay down wind from me when smoking and we co-exist happily, i dun smell 2nd hand smoke, they get to smoke as much as they like.

pearlie27 SG

Then you should learn to enjoy without smoking.

fai SG

Smoking are for idiots, remember that.

NuLife SG

Smokers are bunch of inconsiderate bastards and losers.

No need to ban, else it wil affect tourism.

But I suggest "Mulitply" the tax they place on cigrettes.
to compensate for what others had to put up with:

eg
-health issue related to second-hand smoke
-the risk they put their life into like stroke, lung cancer
which allow them to get goverment subsidy or even charity funds.

i want to add... really hate those smokers
esp when they sit near my in coffeeshop or outdoor.
make the fresh air that im privileged to stink,
and makes my cloths stink too.

SilverPal SG

$1 per stick?

Spirit of Fire SG

All the policies the government implement can solve the problems in the short-term, but not in the long-term. They just only want quick solutions. Anyone on the road can think of a harsh rule. I don’t understand why they are paid big money to perform such a simple job. This shows that how short-sighted they are.

The man who was death SG

the taxes they pay now is more than enough to cover the medical costs already

JJxJJ SG

Laughing sg's air not very fresh leh

proxyxies SG

tink dey did a gd job implementing more bans to places....hate ppl hu smoke...especially those tat cannot read the no smoking signs....

everytime taking the lift there will be an uncle smoking den when i go in act as if neber smoke in lift

dragg SG

i extracted this article from the straits times forum.

I applaud the Government's move to ban smoking in air-conditioned premises. But another problem has arisen with the ban.

Now smokers gather at the entrances of office blocks and shopping complexes to smoke. Sometimes you can see many smokers creating a smoke screen which others have to pass through before getting into the building.

I suggest that the entrances of all air-conditioned premises be made smoke-free areas. All buildings should assign for the smokers an area away from human traffic.

See how people are asking for more?

dragg SG

a ban is uncalled for. a fine is more appropriate.

redstone SG

No human rights!!!
Non smokers breath in smoke and are slowly dying together with the smokers even if they don't want to! Laughing

highway69 SG

Typical singaporean. If you don't drink, gamble, watch movies etc can die or not? please lah.

Profounder SG

Absolutely agree.

And the worse thing is that many smokers just can't be bothered to spare a thought for non-smokers, lighting up indiscriminately.

And what "human rights" are we talking about here. Human rights must be balanced against what we call "public nuisance".

theditz SG

Some of the forum letters are beginning to worry me. There seems to be a basic confusion over the distinction between rights and individual preferences. Just because something offends you (ala today's highly myopic letter asking the govt to apprehend the taxi driver whose dog sparked the blogger incident), does not mean that it should be banned.

Similarly, smokers have a right to smoke, especially at home (and the right to get lung cancer and emphysema). Therefore, to demand a smoking ban because of the irritating cigarette smell on your clothes is delusional and reflects really badly on the Singaporean mindset today.

laurence82 SG

i got to agree

I didnt know polluting other people's lungs is a right. Laughing

theditz SG

The mindset Singaporeans have nowadays is : Coz i dont like it, the government should ban it. Gay parties, casinos, blogging etc. are all really matters that have been blown out of proportion not by the government, but by self-rightous people seeking to impse their worldview on everyone else.

I say, learn to live with the smoke, avoid it as you have always done, and encourage people to quit smoking. The government hasn't put a foot wrong yet, and excise taxes have been very useful in deterring new smokers.

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