We are NOT Chinese....We are Peranakan

last SG · 2005-05-24T16:35:48+00:00

Dr Who, it seems that it's the way you put forward this idea or"knowledge" of yours have gotten you negative responses. You seem to be assuming that ALL Sing...

Dr Who SG

In the eyes of the chinese from China, singapore chinese are barbarians trying to pass off as Chinese.

Maybe they are right. We are not Chinese. We are Peranakan-a mix of Chinese and Malay.........remember that when our ancestor came, they married local women.....the children grew up to be Baba/ Nonya......

Studies show that more than 30% of Chinese in Singapore had Baba genes 40 years ago.......today maybe 70% are already of mixed blood. Even Lee Kuan Yew is of mixed blood........ so don't call ourselves Chinese......We are not pure Chinese...... we are Peranakan .........Let's be proud of this mixed heiritage.

TehJarVu SG

i have no malay blood i am not peranakan.

crazy monkey SG

stfu

striderz_o405 SG

Makes no sense actually

Our ancestoral roots origin from China. So we are not even having blood of a malay.

leddy SG

my family bloodline is pure chinese lor. most ppl are what?

skyfoo SG

where did u get your statistics? my great-grandparents are from china, i'm a pure chinese, or shld i say singaporean chinese.

crazy monkey SG

Dr Lanjiao posting crap again Mad

ShutterBug SG

Wake up, people.

Let China, be as they are, say whatever they so please.

Arguing and debating over the originality of the Chinese race in Singapore, is a pointless pursuit.

Consider the Chinese over in Malaysia, who are indeed Chinese, but very fluent in Malay. Where do they stand in the eyes of China? I don't give a crap! What about Chinese in America, or American Chinese for that matter? Where do they stand?

We are UNIQUELY Singapore Chinese.

I am Chinese, I have baba in my bloodline, and my language of choice among family members, is Teochew. I am proud of my mother tongue, Teochew. NOT Mandarin.

Just as Japan is proud of their own language, and France, and Germany, and all the rest.

Give this a rest!!

SMAPLionHeart SG

Haha, Mr.Who is wrong....if they have the baba blood inside them...
they would be muslims now...

Baba is when a China Chinese migrates to singapore during the early days and marry a straits Chinese...who was here very very long ago..

Get your facts CORRECT.

SMAPLionHeart SG

So , Babas are people who are Chinese who take on Peninsula Malaysia culture..making nonya food and peranakan stuffs etc...

LazerLordz SG

Bro, it's tough going against the herd.Anyway, I am proud of my heritage which is
a mix of ethnic Chinese,Peranakan and Borneo Chinese.

I grew up speaking English in my household and I expect people to respect that.

I speak Hokkien better than Mandarin because this is the language I communicate to my grandparents and relatives in, as well as English.Hokkien is my mother tongue, the language of my ancestors.

I understand Malay and can speak pidgin Malay because of my Borneo side of the family tree.

I am proud of my roots, and my cuisine is a mix of three worlds.

I am Singaporean, of the Malay Archipelago, and a Christian.I live in a country where you can see African Americans, Chinese, Japanese, Caucasian, Indian, Malays , all eating in a food court in peace and harmony.

I will not stand for China attempting to foist her North Asian brand of cultural hegemony on our island.

Let them see it however they will.Balls to them if they deem us inferior.I am not 100% ethnic Han or Mongolian, and I have nothing that connects us to them besides some parts of my blood in a genetic fashion.

vito_corleone SG

sorry brother im pure chinese…

Gun SG

Dr Who,

I dislike labelling a fellow human being a "racist". And I certainly understand the fallacy of such being. If your sane judgement allow, try not to turn to another sinner like this one below. FYI ethnic Chinese had been persecuted for most of last century in Asia alone. and we certainly do not need another flamer for this one. Love your kind, but please don't start anther hate thread.

Love,
a 100% human being.

LazerLordz SG

Personally, as long as one is proud of his heritage, he can tell others to kiss his balls if they cannot take it.

Mr. Green

sgdiehard SG

From where did you hear or get the information to come to conclusion for your first statement??

Singaporean chinese have always been well regarded as an example for mainland chinese to emulate ever since they opened up their economy. Deng Xiao Peng even openly mentioned Singapore as a model for chinese cities when he visited southern China. Chinese civil servants came to singapore to learn, parents sent their children here to study and many came here to work (hence the problem we have on FT) Who says they regard us as babarian???

Besides, Singaporean chinese, whether pure or mixed, are happy and proud of who we are working together as a country. We don't need to compare ourselves with any other people to be proud.

Where did you get your studies that "Studies that more than 30% of Chinese in Singapore had Baba genes 40 years ago.......today maybe 70% are already of mixed blood. " ?? Singaporean peranakan can be proud of themselves even if they make up only 1% of the population, because of what they contribute to the country.

You sure have severe inferiority complex to have to resort to quoting all wrong info to feel proud. go see a doctor.

boy in blues SG

you're welcome to feel good about your Peranakan mixed heritage

congrats, i'm happy for you

highway69 SG

Speak for yourself.There is no malay blood in my family.

miss_soojung SG

Is this reported somewhere? The Chinese that I know from China don't seem to take this point of view.

Dr Who SG

Our ancestors were poor farmers who could not survive in China. Some were business people. Probably none were high caste mandarins........when they came to Singapore/Malacca, they married low caste locals......I mean which high class family will allow their daughters to marry poor China-men?

That's why the Philippine press had labeled us as "low-caste'" and "crude".

China people are more polite......they don't say it.......the fact is....we don't even have a "Jia-Poo" Family Book which lists our ancestors......something ALL Chinese families should have if they are gentlemen.....
................meaning we don't even know our ancestors..........
.................we don't even follow the family middle name..........can you catch what I am saying?

105090 SG

peranakans their names are somewhat different from chinese. also, most peranakans originate from malaysia, maybe those whose grand parents are born in malaysian are more peranakan than those who are from china?