Originally posted by CX:
we already know why mfg is hollowing out... and its not because of
FTs...
retail isn't dying. i frankly don't know how u came to that
conclusion.
life-science is work in progress. no denying it so lets not count
chickens before they're hatched.
but aren't you forgetting something? what about service?
Look around you, CX. If retail is not
dying, why do the retail associations lobby to postpone the 1%
increase in GST. Basically, our tourism sector have been caught
napping, ie why the IR is needed, but Casino is another issue which
I do not want to debate over here.
Our service sucks if u have been to HK or even Shanghai or Dubai. I
traveled a lot, almost half a year, n Singapore is not really a
place to get good service, let alone their bochap attitude.
Remember, the union pple did visited China and then they realised
how highly skilled these Chinese workers are, how much they are
paid etc. and came back realising that Singapore is slipping..our
cost structure is too high to compete against them.
Originally posted by CX:
there is no argument here... some are really not that sharp... and
it reflects the mindset of the employers who hire them as
well...
but i see you poking holes at situations who are inherent in the
work cycle of an employee. they are not problems caused by FTs per
se.
programmers lose their relevence within 6 mths, not 2 yrs. that is
the pace of IT nowadays. at its height in the 90s, a chip that
intel rolls onto the production line is obsolete the moment it
leaves it.
is the pace faster without FTs? no... so what's the point?
and we blame FTs for our own mediocrity? how does that work? are we
world class if we only race within our own small pond?
Why should Singapore be so opaque
about these things on FTs. Australia, NZ for eg. Has very clear
policy about foreign employees. Why not have let the private
association, assess their foreign peers, for two years before
allowing them to continue to be employed in Singapore. By and
large, you see a lot of MNC, or even our gahment-related companies
CEO, MD, etc bring their own pple to fill in positions rather than
getting Singaporeans. For eg. DBS Bank, during Phillipe tenure, 3
MDs, all Singaporeans, having more than 10 years banker experience
from HK, China and Taiwan resigned. These experienced and talented
Singaporeans are being displaced by these so-called FTs. Is this a
shame.
If these FTs are really talented, would Singapore be what it is
today. We tok BIG abt ourselves, we are number 1 in this and that.
Is this sickening. Many Singaporeans do not realize their own
weakness, simplicity till they have started to work in more
complex country like China, or India. Remember, LTA highlighted
that they are world-class transportation, where you experienced
regular breakdowns in LRT. Is this just some chest-beating slogan
thought up by some fancy scholars. Look at SIP, what a failure.
Look at some of the private Singapore businessman, like Ron Sim,
OSIM, how they overcame the odds to succeed in China.
What am I saying is that, why do we always have this starry-airy
naiviety that such academic talents are the measure of these
exclusive mandarins and not these streetsmart and experienced
businessman, who knows how to wheel and deal, SIP would be
different today.
Remember what the ex-ambassador tell Singapore, cut out your
arrogance when dealing with China, what do you think who is she
referring to.
I am not clamouring for protectionism, but why shld we be treated
as second-class citizens in our own country. And these FTs are
mostly mediocre talents, like Indian and Chinese engineers, mostly
third-rated and they would jump on to go to USA or Europe, as
simple as that. Singapore is just a bus-stop.
Yes, we shld not race within a small pond, by why shld we let other
mediocre pple into our small pond, we are small rit, we have a rit
to make a living rit, Our shepherd is supposed to take care of its
own sheep, rit and not other pple sheeps rit.
Originally posted by CX:
what about Neil Montefiore of M1?
what about Terry Clontz? CEO of Starhub?
what about David Philbrick Conner? CEO of OCBC?
what about Paul Lawrence? CEO of HSBC Singapore?
I believe Neil Montefiore is the only
FT.
Starhub is still losing monies. Any clown still be able to manage
it as it is ST-related, part of Temasek Holdings
David Conner is still new, need time to tell whether he is a FT or
not
Cannot comment on Paul Lawrence, do not know much abt him
Most of the FTs fall along the wayside, unable to deliver the
goods.
Originally posted by CX:
i think any sensible adult can see that there are good ones and
there are crappy ones...
But it is taxpayers monies, my
goodness that we get 80% craps and maybe 20% good. What does that
speak abt our incumbent gahment. Any sucker would be grateful to
walk away with US$ 5 million, even though nothing much is achieved.
Look at the way they handle the POSB fiasco. Or its the same
argument again, its a honest mistake, we have not enough
talents.
Originally posted by CX:
i would fight for what i feel i deserve rather than blame the gov't
for everything.
I am not blaming the gahment for
everything. Singapore is still a safe and good place to do
business, and our gahment has a good hand in putting things in
place. Along the way, we opened a door too BIG for mediocre talents
to be in Singapore, no transparency at all. Rememeber when 2 x NTU
professor highlighted that 4 out of 5 jobs goes to foreigners,
Manpower Minister Ng EH goes ballistic. Somewhere in between is the
truth, statistics do not lie, human do. Even if it is 3 out of 5
jobs goes to foreigners, it is too much. Gahment-elect has a duty
to take care of Singaporeans, not just lips service or politicking
mascot.
We spend only 4% of our GDP on health care and we call it subsidy.
We spend 25 years to pay off our HDB flat and we call it market
subsidy. Lets not be naive, Singaporeans deserved
better.
Originally posted by CX:
if we can tap the growth and benefit, of course we should be doing
that. but is it the only choice? being a cleaner OR being a
millionaire?
What choice do we have left in
Singapore, you said you do not mind being a cleaner in Singapore, I
ask you, would you prefer to be a millionaire in China, you did not
answer my question. Here in China, there are plenty of
opportunities, big or small, nobody to blame, if you cannot make
it. In Singapore, control is the key. GLC is into everything.
Things are marginally getting better. What kind of business can you
do in Singapore, ask yourself frankly. Manufacturing, you are not
competitive. Retail rentals are too high. Many banking
professionals already left the bank, construction is in bankcrupty,
what else
.u name a few and see where we are going.
[b]
Originally posted by CX:
frankly, are our graduates losing out? are there lots of them out
there not getting their dues? if they're not, why? are they
absolutely brilliant but not given a chance? plain unlucky perhaps?
or are they simply mediocre and unemployable? ]
If you check out other forums, you can
find that there are still quite a lot of new graduates unable to
find a job. I do not know why, but it is relative to the economy.
So much, for the gahment statistics that we are doing well in this
or that but look, is not the casino decision very telling that
Singapore will not be able to substain economic growth in the near
future.
