Foreigners welcomed to take Citizenshit

last SG · 2005-02-17T19:57:16+00:00

First, I'm not sure who said Singapore's government is efficient. I certainly didn't, but of course.. I've heard some crazy & spineless people (without m...

pearlie27 SG

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Mr Goh said: "It is better when you can identify them when they are young, bring them to our schools, absorb them, make them feel they are Singaporeans and make them Singaporeans.

"They should, in time to come, take on Singapore citizenship, do national service and become in their case first generation immigrants who become Singaporeans";>>

SM Goh is really too optimistic. Even our local boys hate NS and he expects foreigners to want to serve it. Maybe he said that for want of better things to say.

robertteh SG

I just heard the off-the-cuff comments or feedbacks from Chinese students studying in Singapore when interviewed by 958 radio. Given the choice these students now studying in Singapore say that they would prefer to study in US, or UK universities. They did not say that they are happy in taking up residence or citizenship here but being polite they say that they find the condition here good.

SM Goh should try to understand these feedbacks, which clearly show that the government's pro-foreign policy is too optimistic and may not work while continuing to work against the local citizens who have put up years of sacrifice to allow government to build surpluses and claim success.

Government must: "ying sui sei yan". How is it going to do anything good for foreigners if in their views we are just their convenient stepping stone. Now back to the topic - what changes or change of mindset for Singapore? Laughing

drawer SG

When the government cant even feed well their citizens n yet bring in more foreigners to share their "rice bowl",of coz racism n detest of foreigners will occur from the local ppl.You go everywhere is the same,with our F**k UP government,this problem will go even worse!

drawer SG

Well said,i totally agree with u.Furthermore,Singapore government is famous for their stingy n dictatorial ruling style.Plus Singapore is small country n our economy competitiveness have obviously going down for the past 10 years.If compare to the U.S n Australia,which are big countries n their government is not as dictatorial as us n full of natural resources,who the hell want to migrate to Singapore?Even if they do,they probably treat it as a springboard to migrate to other countries which are much better than Singapore.In term of democracy,i think even Malaysia did better than us n they have more opposition parties in their parliament.

drawer SG

Lou Goh always talk bullsh*t one lar,no need to bother about him.

vito_corleone SG

yin shui si yuan* Laughing

thedead SG

Its more like "yi xiang qing yuan" to me Laughing

pearlie27 SG

Well, if they don't review their policy, they will continue to lose their local talents.

robertteh SG

Er, "yin shui si yuan" or "think of the source when one drinks the water". Simple? Where is the source? Who drink the water? Hehe Laughing

robertteh SG

Mutual affection ? More than "lou tiow chang tan" or "ter chun chin cher". Laughing

robertteh SG

Actually "local talent" might be a misnomer of sort to our rulers. How can there be any local talents when the only talents know to them have been a few top echelons or straight "A" graders.

But history was a bit kinder. The talents are gagged by theri own non-performance after the disappointing harvests of the last seasons. So now there is some small hints here and there of "local talents" once dismissed as quitters. Oop sorry got carried away!!! Laughing

thedead SG

no Laughing

thedead SG

Laughing What kind of romanization was that? TMSS? Lolz

robertteh SG

Singchinese Shocked !!!

timothytsgsg SG

Chinese nationals won't come here to become S'poreans. They come here 4 education(and govt uses taxpayers money for their fees) and after that, they will say bye bye and go back!

They told me this "Why should we come here and take up citizenship when China is booming right now? China will be the largest economy in 15-20 yrs time, so why shd we subject ourselves to this tiny island? Wal Mart isn't coming to Singapore, you know."

pkchukiss SG

As with all loans we make, we should automatically classify all the money invested in these foreigners as spent and unrecoverable. Perhaps the investment might gain us something, perhaps it might not.

Investing in foreign talents is something that we should do, however, I do seriously urge those involved to think Singaporeans First. After all, we cannot expect to get all the experts to be born locally in Singapore, we do need the foreigners here.

mannovo SG

Hi,

In my previous company, we have some Mainland chinese engineers, they do have sufficient technical know-how but lacking in business and social skills. However, they do and will take advantage of our Singaporean government generousity or ignorance, in taking up sponsorship to further their MBA. One of the Chinese engineer wife was paid about S$2000 (RMB9,400) a month to do her MBA. Quite alot of money in China context. An engineer with 3 - 5 years' experience will drawn about RMB 5,000 - RMB 8,000 in big cities like Shanghai and Beijing. In smaller cities, it is even lesser.

Also, a Shanghainese fren, who has been in Singapore for 12 years but now back in Shanghai is ready to give up his Singapore citizenship to try to get back his CPF monies.

There are a few more cases i encountered, but by and large, only a small minority will take up citizenship. And by the way, another Chinese fren finally takes up the citizenship after the 4th letter from government. And she did not even ask for it. WHen i congratulate her for being a Singaporean now, and jokingly mentioned that her son would then have the privilege to serve the army and defend our nation, there was complete silence.

I really think we need to finetune our policies.

Lowclassman SG

The freaking gov is not taking care of the local born singaporeans more. Instead, they are just more concern for FT.
I would dare to say, these FT will definitely leave singapore one day if there are better opportunities in their countries or elsewhere. Do you think that they will fight and protect singapore if singapore comes into problems.
No wonder our gov is upgrading and improving combat technologies and buying more advance weapons to defense at our expense. Mad

mannovo SG

Easy classman,

Not true, they are taking care of our mandarins very well, and these scholars are Singaporeans. .or at least, PR from Malaysia..Ha...Ha...

Lets be fair, pple like Goh Keng Swee, Rajaratnam etc are giants and heros, part of the Old Guard who has made Singapore wat we hve today.

I do believe tat our garment knows it, tat FT will leave at a drop of a hat shld our economic situations turns from bad to worse. The sames goes for China, many FDI and Fortune 500 hve massive investment over there, and by the way, abt 365 out of the Fortune 500 are already in China n is growing by the day..it is inevitable..but the diff. is tat our garment, does not hve any transparent or consistent policy, in ensuring tat FTs are really FTs. Look, we paid abt S$5 million or USD5 million (not very sure whether USD or Sing $) to John Olds, S$21 million to Barry White (Chartered Semiconductor), n Thomas Cloat or someting (S$27 million) as "golden parachute" 4 their "contributions".

Along the way, these FTs brings in their "buddies", "associates" to "displace" Singaporeans, n tis is really "cut us to our bones". And these Singaporeans are not "lazy" nor "untalent".

We have abt 1 million foreign workers, or FTs abound in Singapore. There are pros and cons...n even LKY highlighted tat we shld not "alienate Singaporeans". Don't forget, we are targetting 8 miilion pple by 2030 or something...where do we get the extra 3.5 million, giving tat we hve about 4.5 million pple now....even if we make luv all day long, i dont think we can produce anohter 4.5 million...

Truly, certain sectors of our economy, like life science requires FTs, as we are the "new kid in the block" but not the tons of engineers, mediocre "talents" or "passengers".

I am not against tem, but by n large, most of these pple i interviewed or encountered r no better, or worse than our Singaporeans. We must hve faith in our pple, if not, who else will defend Singapore.

Classman, i beg to disagree on the military budget, it is neccesary, remember we r not in a very nice neighbourhood, if u know wat i mean, deterrent is very much a part of military strategy.

Lowclassman SG

I do agree with you. I personally experienced some of the FT are F**K type and I have also encountered some highly paid civil servants drawing high and just live for day doing F88k off.

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