Gazelle SG I dont view it as bias. I see this as a trend that is going to get alot worst before it gets better. And sad to say this trend is likely going to affect the women more than the man. - There will be more sg men marrying foreign women as the society begin to accept them. (maybe not the single women) - More educated overseas bride will come to singapore to rival our sg women for those forgotten sg men. - More sg graduate women will remain single as they continue to pursue their career, financial independence etc.. - Sg women mean age for first marriage would expect to go up to about 29yer old within the next 5 years. As a result... - More miscarriage among sg women due to late marriage - An increase in sg women developing breast cancer because of not giving birth. Good luck to your singlehood.
Gedanken SG So by your line of argument, if, as cited in Seah's article, you're making $2500 while the missus is making $6000, and if it's important to both of you that the children should stay in their parents' care, you're going to insist that she gives up her more highly-paid job and let the family struggle so that you can support your little ego. Put simply, in your book, whatever a woman has achieved for herself and any subsequent rewards should be sacrificed in favour of your chauvanism. I think that paints a pretty clear picture of the problem that Singaporean women have had with you in the past, and they're pretty well-justified in telling you where to stick it.
elindra SG Actually what I see is the increasing trend of chinese sg girls marrying non-chinese sg guys and marrying foreigners. It is a trend which some of my male friends are lamenting to me if there is something wrong with SG chinese guys since more and more girls seem to be marrying other races. To be honest, I won't be surprise if they all have the same mentality as you. I also see the increasing trend of chinese sg guys, marrying foreign brides from around asia and the small minority marrying caucasian ladies. I also see more sg girls going overseas to live due to foreign husbands or due to better work opportunities, thus resulting in a foreign spouse. As for singlehood, I have already left that behind. If you are happily married, so am I. We are pursuing our future together so I don't see what is the problem forging ahead with our careers and getting married. Actually, I think it is better because you get some emotional support as well
Gedanken SG Oh, suddenly he's switched careers from high finance to oncology. Here's a more realistic projection of events: - There will be more sg men marrying foreign women as society begins to accept them. - More educated overseas brides will come to singapore to rival our sg women for those forgotten sg men. - After a while, these overseas brides will come to realise what they're missing out on, relative to their local counterparts. - These overseas brides will start to go for what is rightfully theirs as women in Singapore. - These overseas brides' Singaporean husbands will protect their itty-bitty little egos by trying to keep them in the house. - The overseas brides will join the trend of Singaporean women who have come to realise how they've been shortchanged by egotistical little Singaporean men, and decide they've had enough. Enjoy your divorce proceedings.
Gazelle SG This conservative attitute needs to change??? I am actually waiting for our government to legalize pornography in Singapore. I think we are the only developed nation that doesnt allow this. In order to achieve this, I think sg women need to change their attitute towards it, because they will be the one that will oppose it. Just because of 30 years of education, sg women are now demanding to re-write our asian values and demand man to change to suit their western influence. I think sg women must learn to respect the man for being asian. If you think that being westernised is cool should just pack your bag and leave this country or marry a angmoh. i wish you luck. Btw, havent you realise that Sg man has already gotten over it? cant you see that more and more sg man are marrying foreign ASIAN women. I dont think it is wrong for a sg man to choose to remain as asian.
foxwalk SG i've got a divorce lawyer to recommend. but it has to be a guy because mr MCP wants it that way right? scorn all women who are high perfomers and have taken a less family oriented approach to success in life. makes me wonder. that guy has given up all his arguing because it is so one sided he can only win it in a faraway universe or something like that. so he starts to copy and paste some article here and there. one lesson from a history teacher which i still carry with me. you can't even trust photographs, so tell me can you trust articles word for word, especially locally written ones. ever heard of the word "propaganda" mr-i'm-too-good-for-sg women? like i've said i hope you'll tell your daughters to go to uni and everything, but not to reach for any stars in life. tell them it's ok to marry a poor guy, best yet, and mcp like you. tell them it's important at the end of the day to become a mother teresa and put ALL of your husband's welfare before theirs. i challenge you to raise your daughters like that. but of course, you're too chicken to respond and hiding behind your local articles with your chip flailing about.
elindra SG Oh no, you don't need to change, just wait till the foreign asian women start to change. Sure it's going be a long way to go, but once the country starts to develop, you guys who refuse to change will face the same problems now and this time you have no where to go. Oh come on, what's the big deal about pornography? Usually its the teenagers and bored deprived old men who look at them. Or men who think pornography is a big deal because its banned in Singapore Sure, you can continue to throw your weight around, and expect your wife to work and serve you and let's see how long that will last. We respect your asian values but we don't agree to the so called 'set roles' due to the living environment then and now. Oh, SG women has gotten over it and is marrying foreign ASian men and caucasians but we get labelled as turncoats and spgs whereas when you guys marry a foreign girl, its because you are some poor pitiful thing and you have the right to do so because no SG girl wants you.
Gedanken SG Oh, this is just getting better by the minute. He wants his wife to stay at home and have kids while he flicks through girly mags, and that's his idea of progress. Wake up and smell the coffee - if women are capable of earning more than men, why should they have to take the back seat? They've earned their education and there's not a whole lot you can do about it, nor is it any of your business. You haven't gotten over it - if you had, this thread wouldn't exist.
Gazelle SG You are just indirectly telling me that Sg women are all about money, and how sg women will feel when they choose to marry angmoh overseas. Thank you very much for that this fairy tale story. If I were you, I will probably include a little bit of romance, family, children and sex. Life is not always about money. Enjoy your singlehood.
Gedanken SG I would be remiss in not mentioning this one: if Gazelle's wife is as wonderful as he says she is, why's he got to resort to pornography? Maybe he's still not getting any.
foxwalk SG it's about adopting the best of both worlds to suit ourselves. haven't heard of the word "synergy"??? to me, you're just someone who prefers to stay in your little cocoon than ever venturing beyond our shores. and you're making yourself feel better about it by saying you wana remain asian. so apparently good asian values are being a submissive wife, tolerating an mcp husband with views from qing dynasty, but you support pornography? what a sad little intellecutal world you must live in.
elindra SG I wonder how many times Ged has to tell you he has a fiance. I don't see how that tells you indirectly that SG women are all about money and it doesn't have to be an angmoh overseas too you know. But I can safely say that you guys can get a foreign asian bride easily because most of them are trying their best to leave their country for a better life here. (Come on, if you compare a SG guy to the guys in their country, who appears to be able to give them a better lifestyle??) And you don't see that as marrying for money Get with it man
Gedanken SG No, I'm telling you directly that self-respecting women, regardless of nationality, will not stand for being kept down by men with petty little egos. The ones that do are in fact the ones who are in it for the money, or they've just been kept down so long they can't even think straight.
foxwalk SG and the difference is these sg women are marrying outside because they choose against small sg men like Gaz, whereas sad little men like Gaz are marrying foreign brides because they can't satisfy the sg women, be it intellectual, or personality. stop harping on about your chip or your "money is not everything but wait let me flaunt my 5 figure". don;t you even feel ashamed?
Gedanken SG Perhaps some Malaysian hawker is saying exactly the same thing about Gazelle's wife, as Gazelle is saying about Singaporean women.
