Singaporean talents leaving to other countries

last SG · 2004-02-11T11:31:04+00:00

Hey St MIchael, i'm teaching in a sec sch now but am considering making the move to teach in china when bond ends. could u advice me how? where shd i start...

Gedanken SG

Care to elaborate? If you’ve got different experiences with the French, please feel free to express your opinion, but don’t go doing the one-line-wonder thing.

Viking1 SG

What is there to elaborate on what you said ? No facts, nothing of particular interest, just ramblings.

Gedanken SG

Why roll the eyes then? Unless you've got something to say, which now you say you don't. Pot calling the kettle black?

If you said that I'm jumping to conclusions about the French, or that my taste in wine is questionable, 'd be happy to accept your opinion and debate it. This eye-rolling thing is just a wank.

Viking1 SG

Ok tell me Dedanken... what French attitude exactly are you talking about ?

Gedanken SG

Well, what are YOUR experiences with the French? Or are you just another Googler?

Viking1 SG

I am French

Gedanken SG

That's better.

I'm talking about their way of defending the indefensible and being egocentric about it. Examples:

- Mururoa Atoll - they don't see a problem with creating a radioactive mess in somebody else's backyard. At least the Pakistanis have the decency to do it on their own turf

- bulldozing the cemeteries of Australian WW1 soldiers - who fell fighting to protect their worthless arses, mind you - for a lousy airport

- trying to play saint by opposing the Iraq war, then doing a complete backflip by banning Islamic dress. The birthplace of democracy? Try the birthplace of hypocrisy, mate. Besides, FFS, the defence of France in WW2 took how long? 48 minutes before they rolled over?

The French individuals I have spoken to have been particularly obnoxious about defending these things, basically acting like they've got all right to do as they bloody please while claiming a place on the world stage, and that rubs me the wrong way.

Happy?

Gedanken SG

Well congratulations - no wonder you've pissed me off right off the bat.

Viking1 SG

Mururoa Atoll: I agree, and most French people also agree with you.

Islamic veil: you are totally clueless, the veil and the Irak war have nothing to do with each other. France defines its policy iself, we do not care what the muslim think or anyone else. We did not go to war because we thought it was a bad idea...nothing to do with the muslim opinion. Same for the veil, we set our own rules thank you very much, we do not require your approval or anybody else's approval. Since we are in a Singapore forum, I suppose you also disagree with Singapore's policy for the muslim veil as well then (same as France)

Gedanken SG

Fine then - the next time France gets its arse in a sling, as it's got a habit of doing, it may as well take care of itself, since apparently the world outside its borders doesn't exist. Why send other countries' troops to defend France when they're going to show their gratitude by building a runway over our graves?

As for the veil, it's you who are clueless - do you think that by trying to count these two events as separate, that makes it all right? At least Singapore is consistent - they backed the war and they disallow the veil. France's inconsistency shows that it's either confused as all hell or just plain hypocritical - take your pick.

Viking1 SG

I forgot to add about the WW1 cemetery....

It was just a case of incompetence from some officials. They did not even notice that there was a cemetary there. As soon as they got reminded this fact, the case for the airport was immediately droped.

We take very good care of the allied cemeteries in Normandy, that's the least we can do. Have you ever been there ?

Viking1 SG

Originally posted by Gedanken:
Fine then - the next time France gets its arse in a sling, as it's got a habit of doing, it may as well take care of itself, since apparently the world outside its borders doesn't exist. [b]Why send other countries' troops to defend France when they're going to show their gratitude by building a runway over our graves?[/b]

We would never do that.

Gedanken SG

Aw, what a load! The diplomatic row about the cemetery went on for 2 weeks! You call that immediate?

Viking1 SG

I certainly know better than you the motivation of France for banning the veil in school, and it really has nothing to do with the war in Irak. The 2 events are definitely not related.

Gedanken SG

You have already - twice, as a matter of fact.

About Normandy, hey, that's such a big tourist attraction that they can't afford to shut it down. You can't say the same for the WW1 cemetery, and look at the result.

Viking1 SG

What did we do twice ?

And what tourist attraction are you talking about ?

Gedanken SG

Whatever the motivation is, they first put on a "we must be fair to the Muslims" horse-and-pony show in the UN, then turn around and slam the Muslims on their own turf anyway. Makes me wonder why they really opposed the war - perhaps some violation of embargoes might have been revealed?

[email protected] SG

gen.... com'on now... france is pretty wonderful.
I loved marseille, and i've fallen in love with Provence.
sorry but i gotta disagree with u for e 1st time.
while i did get robbed once, majority of the people i met are really nice. Maybe e French u exprienced in Paris are how Parisians behave, and i can tell u the provencial people esp those in Marseille aren't too hot on them either.

Gedanken SG

That's right, just act selectively blind - typical. Go read the posts again and see what responded to with those statements.

Viking1 SG

The reason for not going to war has never been "to be nice with the muslim".

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