Originally posted by pikamaster:
BUT I DO "heap the blame on society" for not doing the best it can
to prevent crime in the first place.
the only thing "society" can do to prevent crime is for
indiviuals to not commit them. and if u're dealing with
individuals, who are diverse and hetrogeneous, what makes u think
any ONE way (aka. your liberal dreamworld crackpot idea) can
work?
Education is not exactly open-ended. if it is, then you might as
well say that whether or not one wants to learn a skill is
dependent on oneself.
i hate to repeat myself. there is no sure way for education to
conclusively inculcate "morality". u can read the history of world
war 2 and walk away either with a strong abhorrence of war,
violence and totalitarianism, OR (and many do) become an admirer of
hitler, nazism and become totally warped human beings with a warped
perspective.
u can learn how to fix a car in an ITE and become a perfectly
functional and productive member of society, OR u can use that
knowledge to steal cars.
u can learn chemistry and work in the petro-chemical industry, or u
can use that knowledge to make a bomb.
u can learn how to use a computer and write programs, or u can use
a computer to write viruses and/or become a hacker.
u can be a lawyer and prosecute criminals, or u can be one that
helps those who can afford to pay u get off on a
technicality.
moral education can only do so much. if u get too preachy, pple
(esp young pple) won't buy your nonsense as well. already, u get
complaints that propaganda is stinking its way into the schools and
kids are becoming robots. now u wanna "enforce" morality as
well?
if u ask me, i say that schools shouldn't be teaching kids how to
act ( what are parents for? its tragic that u think CME replaces
good parenting ) and think ( it stifles creativity and intellectual
diversity ). they should be facilitating growth in whichever
directions the kid shows aptitude, talent or interests in. but
thats another argument.
of course its all complex and open ended... get your simple mind
used to it.
n again, u misquoted my point on compensation... Plus, as I
stated before, the murderer's family has to experience unnecessary
grief. At the same time, does killing the murderer bring back the
victim from the dead? No, not at all!
won't go into compensation... someone else already did the
honours. capital punishment don't bring the back to life. but in a
barbaric, uncivilised sorta way, it allows the surviving family the
consolation of knowing that the perpetrators were justly punished
for their crimes. and if something bad happened to me, or someone
close to me, thats what i would want as well: no-nonsense
justice.
I was reading "Sunrise, Sunset" by the late Gopal Baratham last
year. the story relates a man searching for the murderer of his
fiancee, not to exact the Death Penalty on him/her, but just to
find out the rationale for murder. If all victims' families would
be like this man, then you can see how stupid the Death penalty
really is...
we're not all like that. many still like to see criminals fry.
hence, the death penalty is not stupid. its justice.
u can go chit-chat with the murderer all u want. i prefer crooks
limp on a rope where they won't be doing any more harm and where
others thinking of the same crime can see the limp cadavar and
think twice.
n also, remember that "empty vessels make the most noise" and
"actions speak louder than words". So if society only keeps
groaning "we hate crime" but does nothing to remove it as good as
possible, then it is totally useless.
and u think that "taking responsibility" for it by removing the
death penalty would solve the problem? look... as much as u may
pride yourself to be a renaissance man and an enlightened youth,
there are many out there who are NOT.
by eliminating the devices we have to deal with these pple who
don't play by the same rules, society will deprive itself of the
means to deal with these pple who do not see the world in the
liberal enlightened way that YOU see it in.
watched "Demolition Man"? cheesy hollywood flick, but picture THAT.
maniac from the past wrecks havoc on a sissy future that has no
concept of violence, no death penalty and no means of stopping
him.
and picture THIS: its real. there are those who will shove a knife
in between your ribs and laugh in your face that they won't even go
to jail for very long for doing it cos the law is too weak to deal
with them. thank goodness for we know that such violent individuals
hang when they're caught and convicted.
