Originally posted by MYPR:
You mean a smart person who is able to strike out on his own and
get an overseas degree in 2 years will not know how to take care of
himself and his living surroundings? Do you need 2 years or more to
learn how to clean up your own area then?
of course not... thats exactly my point. if u're smart enough to
get a degree, why aren't u smart enough to keep your area clean
while in the Army? not as if we have a choice anyway... those with
means could always choose to emigrate... the rest of us just do
what we have to while we're here.
Well, i don't. I'm used to living out alone and taking care of
everything since started working in singapore alone when I was 20
years old.
good for you. i respect that.
And do you need to go in the SAF to learn how to respect and
considerate for your fellow man and goddamn Humility learning all
the 4 letter words e.g. fu*k you, CB etc? Well, i don't but learn
it all in my workplace.
yes. the SAF is a good place to learn all the above things u
mentioned. four letter words, u learn everywhere... just observe
the kids in the playground...
humility and respect for your fellow man is an important lesson
which i think many has learnt in the SAF... and its not just the
SAF... ask ANY former military man from ANY military in the
world... they'll tell u the same thing. if u haven't been through
it, i don't think its fair for u to comment on anyone's
behalf.
now, i never said that SAF holds a monopoly on teaching people
respect and humility... as u mentioned, u learnt it at work. so
what's the problem here? i learnt it in the SAF. are u going to
insult the memory of my experiences? 
And mind you, what logic are you talking? It is the responsible
of the government to take care of the street since they are paid to
do it and not yours.
yeah... they take care of the streets... but its not necessarily
their problem should u disregard their measures... and if
tax-payers never specifically said that they wanted a pedestrian
crossing placed there, why should the gov't put one there?
REASON: they WANT to keep people SAFE from
traffic. in the same way, National Service keeps the people SAFE
from external threats.
You can try throwing rubbish around in singapore, but do it and
don't get caught or else the government will get richer. you can
cross the road anywhere you like, do it but don kill yourself of
course.
throwing rubbish everywhere is just plain uncivilised! its not
about getting caught! its about doing the right thing.
and people jay-walk all the time... at most they'll just get run
over and die right? without military defence, what's the worst that
could happen? ah we'll just get invaded... no biggie...
right? 
It is no wonder the "No U-Turn Syndrome" theory applies only to
Singaporean who are so obedient and conforming to whatever
instructed without thinking. Well, maybe that's how the singapore
government want to shape its citizen. To be the obedient best
worker to attract foreign company.
ha ha... u're taking that too seriously... sure, Singaporeans
are some of the most boring people in the world... but to actually
believe that they're obedient and conforming? if u're EVER an
employer, u do that at your own peril...
its human nature to follow paths that are not too contary to one's
interests. it inhibits entrepreneurial spirit, that i agree. but it
doesn't make Sg workers any more "obedient" than any workers on the
planet. passive resistance can take many forms and it can be very
powerful... ask Gandhi...
so we're not very vocal and militant. so? does it help the matter
if we were? NO! for every strike and riot u see in South Korea, the
korean stock exchange goes into a tailspin... does that help? u
tell me...
