irritating church band mate

last SG · 2010-08-25T13:42:04+00:00

Normal lah, all people who go to church think they are the best in the universe. but how come my close fren doesn't leh? he also in the same band. dnt get me...

redname SG

May it be u only take and accept comments from ur "best friend" ? u maybe biased and thinks lowly of your drum mate here, (according to what i'm reading) well i maybe wrong, but well good luck with your church band thing.

LatecomerX SG

he keeps gng ard the bush, saying things like "u go listen to those gd bassist and hear how they play".

it's not helpful at all, those bassist he mentioned is like international stars leh, if i can play like tht then i wldn't be stuck here surfing the forums in the office. I wld be pursuing my dream as a musician

Hmm...he probably had something in mind but was afraid to say it out because he might be wrong. Try to get him to sit down and listen to you playing and have him to pinpoint out what he thinks are mistakes. If he doesn't agree or can't be bothered, then just ask him to stop whining about your play.

Cheer up. Some of those popular musicians also held full-time jobs before they got famous, and you never know when your turn would be. Just keep doing what you love.

Phantomnite SG

I play the electric guitar, I should know better. The most simplest instrument to play is the drum. Don't need much skill, only need to practice and know how to go for the beat. Here is the hierarchy of importance in the band:

1) Singer

2) Electric guitar

3) Bass guitar

4) Secondary electric guitarist

5) Drummer

6) Back up singers

Don't say about who is more important or what. If you say that playing the drum do not need much skills, then I think your concept of music is really very wrong. Please check your facts before you say such things, undermining people's years of practicing the drum.

TS, no matter how talented he is at playing percussion instruments, the instrument you are playing is not his area of expertise. Compared to that percussionist, you have handled your instrument for I presume, quite some time, and would definitely be more aware on the knowledge of your own instrument. If that is the case, why should you let someone who does not know very well abt the instrument criticise you?

By trodding on your playing, this person could have sense your threat in the band, and decides to trample on your playing techniques, and ultimately, your ego and confidence in the instrument. But be aware of difference between constructive criticism and baseless accusations. One is good, the other not.

So if you know that you lack in some area, seek advice from someone who specialise or have experience in playing the instrument. It should not be coming from a percussionist who have no idea what he is talking about. As to how to shut that fella up, ask him to play the your bass guitar, double bass or whatever bass instruments you are handling and show you an example of what is good. If unable to do it, ask him to shut up and stick to practicing his own drum.

Macho Man SG

I know the drum is easier because my electric guitar music teacher also teaches the drum as well. He told me so. You don't need to be a specialist to tell that it is easier. It is common sense.

Then i ask you yesterday the philippines SWAT botch up rescue of the 13 hong kong tourist, in your judgement was incompetent? Don't need a genuis to see that. 7 hostages killed, fat SWAT police failed to break through the window and gave the hostage taker ample time to kill his victims. You need to be an army commando to tell that it was an incompetent operation?

Macho Man SG

neh, i wldn't go into who's instrument is more impt, harder to play etc... it's a band, everyone is impt but about following beat, actually it's bassist tht the band shld be follow cause he/she actually is able to control the rhythm, tempo and chord changes, this is provided the bassist is stable

but sometimes hard to listen to the bassist, drum more easier to follow.

Phantomnite SG

I know the drum is easier because my electric guitar music teacher also teaches the drum as well. He told me so. You don't need to be a specialist to tell that it is easier. It is common sense.

Not everything that a teacher says is correct. I learnt the drum before, and gave up because of the technical difficulties. I have also learnt the guitar before, but I too gave up because of some constraints that I have encountered. He can say it is easier because your teacher might have picked up faster, thus easier for him.

Both instruments are equally as demanding. It really depends. Can I say it is also common sense that walking is easy too? Just because we have been walking for years, does not mean its easy. If lack of training and practicing, walking can be the most difficult thing to do.

I won't comment much on the swat police, as I hold a rather bias view in that.

I'm not trying to tell you which instrument is harder, which instrument is easier. But I would just like to highlight to you that different instruments have their own advantage and disadvantage, what is easier to do on one instrument does not apply to all instruments. If any professional drummers seen what you have said, I think they must have regretted their years of practicing and perfecting the drumming techniques.

Macho Man SG

I won't comment much on the swat police, as I hold a rather bias view in that.

I still say drums are easier to learn but hard to practice. Why? Because anybody who buy a drum set at home would know that they can't practice on it without having the neighbours complain about the noise. So most drummers have to resort to practice on the wall or table instead.

Electric guitar you can practice without putting on the Amps.

redname SG

So what his response is when you asked about how you could improve? Or did you even ask him about it?

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redname SG

i use my "best friend" as an example as he's in the same band too. i do take constructive comments at work too but i'm not really bother about pple who gives me crap at work cause i won't bother getting worked out at work as to me, it's a source of income and everyone is just trying to make a living

redname SG

Cheer up. Some of those popular musicians also held full-time jobs before they got famous, and you never know when your turn would be. Just keep doing what you love.

thanks dude, really appreciate the last paragraph you wrote :)

redname SG

but sometimes hard to listen to the bassist, drum more easier to follow.

tht's y i mention it depends on how gd and solid the bassist is.

if he/she is gd, you can really feel and hear their presence and i'm not talking abt volume here :D

Lokey SG

Hi,

recently i've been really irritated by some of my church band mates. I'll start off by describing the issue i have about 1 of them 1st.

this guy is the drummer and a talented one. As a bassist myself, i should be playing along with him.

He keeps commenting my playing isn't gd enough, however, i received comments that are vice versa.

I admit that i'm not really tht gd as compared to my influences but i seriously doubt this drummer's comments as I know he's someone who's very critical and bitches on anything and everything.

I find it hard to accept his comments cause he only knows how to say something is wrong and not good but doesn't know or incapable of telling me why it's wrong or what can be done to improve. I find this like just having hot air coming out from him.

don't get me wrong here, i'm not someone who can't accept being criticised. I have a close fren who do comment on my playing but he also tells me why it's not gd and what can be done. To me, this is constructive criticism.

i would really need advise on how to handle this as i don't wish to have this brew into anything bad but also wish to get him to shut up somehow.

Thanks in advance,

redname

I think you r chasing the rhythm and not following the beat is it? then drummer end up following u.

Take That SG

I recommend you to leave the band now.And also leave the church.You can live your Christian life solely by going to the Christian bookstore.

Fire Cracker SG

drummer being proud he can play the drum so well?

well if i am you i won't waste time going for some church stuff like that. wasting time.. gotta better things to do then play musical things.

but seriously that drummer have no team work. not everyone is good. not everyone's a good partner.

CutePenguin SG

I strongly suggest u two , get a REAL life , stop this band crap thingy , stay at home and do ur homework and be good boys. Stop wasting ur life on this band thing coz it isnt going to go anywhere , think about it. Just how many singaporean bands are recognized world wide ? so what if u have performed at public , who the hell knows u . PS. tell ur friend to stop stroking his own ego please. It disgusting.

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