New Bus Services Announced by LTA/PTOs (Part 2)

last SG · 2016-02-09T10:18:07+00:00

If you're here to encourage people to take the MRT above the public bus, I feel that you have come to the wrong forum. SGTrains was created for a reason.So i...

carbikebus SG

Problem with 151 is the DDs are scheduled at the wrong timings. The SDs are always packed but the DDs half full.

What to do?Student service mah..

SBS5010P SG

What to do?Student service mah..

to be fair, 151 is also mainly used by foreign workers and office workers also.. So cannot say 100% student service. Its peak hour loading long macpherson quite high also.

carbikebus SG

to be fair, 151 is also mainly used by foreign workers and office workers also.. So cannot say 100% student service. Its peak hour loading long macpherson quite high also.

Better than last time,Current 151 is good enough

carbikebus SG

to be fair, 151 is also mainly used by foreign workers and office workers also.. So cannot say 100% student service. Its peak hour loading long macpherson quite high also.

Of course others are also welcome to board,Its not those school chartered the whole service,just that it pass many schools so i can safely say its school bus service right?

iveco SG

I dont quite get your logic too. How could a long loop be any better than bi-di svc in terms of RELIABILITY and FLEET MANAGEMENT? No proof no talk. And what do you have to support this statement of yours?

In fact, I give you MY examples. Svc 23, 24 are amongst the divas who never fail to piss commuters off. Show me ONE service that is bi-di (and isnt legendary svc) and has horrible reliability. Do it!

Last time i suggested 23 extend to NBR and cover 81/103 but kena flamed until jialat2. As for CGA routes nothing much can be done.

Anyway, how is 171 doing? Has it's loading level been hit big-time by DTL?

BusAnalayzer SG

Last time i suggested 23 extend to NBR and cover 81/103 but kena flamed until jialat2. As for CGA routes nothing much can be done.

Anyway, how is 171 doing? Has it's loading level been hit big-time by DTL?

Guys.. please take 23 first before talking about extension.. 23 needs to maintain the loop at Rochor Canal Road... If you see every 23 DD will have min. 25-30 pax at the looping point, if not more.

If you take 23 out, there needs to be a replacement. Extending to Orchard or NBR will make it either parallel to 65 or 147 right from MOM/Bendemeer and I don't see the point.

BusAnalayzer SG

116: Introduced partly to ease 315's crowd from Serangoon to Serangoon North. But somehow people still preferred to take 315 although it is more winding. In the end 116 has less satisfactory loading, and 315 still received fleet additions.

258: Supposed to ease 243's crowd from Boon Lay Int, but again people don't recognise 258 even when it arrives before 243.

315 got 7 fleet add even though 116 was launched... 116 just acts as back up service to 315 and 72. The fact that 116 is opp NEX, people don't bother taking from there. 116 loading is 15-25 pax during PM peak. 116 loading is better from HCI to HG Ave 9 during PM as bus stop is right outside MRT exit.

BusAnalayzer SG

Well 53M is made so that it stops at the same stop as 53 which goes towards Upper Paya Lebar, so people have 2 choices. Same goes to 43M, stopping at the same stop as 43 which goes towards Buangkok. By changing the routing of 53M to bypass Serangoon Int would make it not that feasible to loop around and pass by that stop.

If 53M becomes 113 from Serangoon Int, it will call at same stop as 45 at Upp serangoon road, yet providing a common stop just not to 53 but 45.

BusAnalayzer SG

Okay your post reminds me that 151's loading is not so bad after all... Just that it's less than 74 and 154 which I take to Clementi Rd more often. But your statement that I'm not familiar with the loading really made me laugh.

Talk about the pre-DTL days first: Are you sure 157 and 171 do not have demand? They are both popular student services (and by this I mean not just for students to go to nearest MRT) especially 157... If you really observe at some bus stops there you will really see crowds taking westbounds 157. And I am not even talking about weekends or evening peak when 171 can be packed to the door...

DTL has taken away many students, of course (I see far less people at TKK bus stop now), but those are people staying further away (especially to the east). There are still plenty of people taking buses along Bukit Timah (and not just to connect to the nearest MRT stops). Do you think someone at NJC will take bus to Sixth Avenue, take DTL to King Albert Park, and transfer to 154 to Clementi; or will he just take 154 direct? Yes those staying all the way at CCK/BPJ take DTL, but those in Bukit Batok, Jurong etc, not really. And of course people still take 74 to AMK Hub instead of bus-DTL-CCL-NSL.

I amnot getting into a war of words here, but I'm just saying what I observe. And leaving one single 852 for the whole Bukit Timah stretch is not the solution. Yes, there is demand from let's say Bukit Batok to Toa Payoh, but I don't think that means demand coming from the stops inbetween can be compromised.

From what I sense from your posts you live on Bukit Timah road, so you will know the loading best there.

My observation of 151 is that the loading along Bukit Timah depends hugely on 154's arrival at the stop.

But 151 definitely has high loading between Macpherson-Airport road to Hougang where it provides unique connection.

carbikebus SG

Guys.. please take 23 first before talking about extension.. 23 needs to maintain the loop at Rochor Canal Road... If you see every 23 DD will have min. 25-30 pax at the looping point, if not more.

If you take 23 out, there needs to be a replacement. Extending to Orchard or NBR will make it either parallel to 65 or 147 right from MOM/Bendemeer and I don't see the point.

Make 23 terminate at Queens St,Majority of the crowds start after Rochor Canal.

carbikebus SG

Last time i suggested 23 extend to NBR and cover 81/103 but kena flamed until jialat2. As for CGA routes nothing much can be done.

Anyway, how is 171 doing? Has it's loading level been hit big-time by DTL?

171 still had good loadings between Yishun-BPJ,From BPJ towards Marina the loadings had dropped slightly but still get an average loadings to Bt Timah.

BusAnalayzer SG

Make 23 terminate at Queens St,Majority of the crowds start after Rochor Canal.

Please take 23. I know what I am saying.

TIB987K SG

Introduction of Service 181M from Monday, 21 March 2016
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/press/2016-03-10-01.aspx

gekpohboy SG

Introduction of Service 181M from Monday, 21 March 2016
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/press/2016-03-10-01.aspx

when I first saw this, I thought this 181M is going to loop via Jurong West Street 72 and provide a shorter bus connection to Boon Lay Bus Interchange...

Nonetheless, it's good that there is now a bus service at Boon Lay Bus Interchange that goes to Jurong West Street 23. :)

array88 SG

Guys.. please take 23 first before talking about extension.. 23 needs to maintain the loop at Rochor Canal Road... If you see every 23 DD will have min. 25-30 pax at the looping point, if not more.

If you take 23 out, there needs to be a replacement. Extending to Orchard or NBR will make it either parallel to 65 or 147 right from MOM/Bendemeer and I don't see the point.

Don't you think Tampines really needs a semi-express service to Orchard or NBR or even CBD? 23 is the prime candidate. You can always introduce 23M looping at Rochor Canal Rd for the full DDs with Indian workers.

dupdup77 SG

Hi mr array88, take connecting buses to tampines Ave 2 or 1 and transfer to sbs 518 express to Scotts/orchard/suntec. No need touch sbs 23. Cheers. Thanks.

BusAnalayzer SG

Modifying 23 will cause immense inconvenience to people. As mentioned there is 65/147 in parallel from MOM/Bendemeer to different parts of city. Don't see any reason/logic why 23 should be touched when it provides unique connection for Jalan Besar/Serangoon road that is quite far to walk. This is the Tampines direct connection people want to go direct to Serangoon road.

BusAnalayzer SG

Introduction of Service 181M from Monday, 21 March 2016
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/press/2016-03-10-01.aspx

In future 181 might do st 23/24 on full day basis once the Bulim industrial estate is developed along st 23 and St. Joseph's home opens. There are multiple other student hostels along st 24. So would not be completely useless to have 181 loop st 23/24 on full day basis.

azharjj SG

dun forget the mosque too (open by sept 2016) as well as future jurong fire station

BusAnalayzer SG

dun forget the mosque too (open by sept 2016) as well as future jurong fire station

Isn't the mosque closer to Jalan Bahar?

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