Child molest

last SG · 2007-12-15T19:43:20+00:00

If i am not mistaken, i heard they were watching blue film the nite b4.. her dad one, a curious group of 4- 5 ppl watched together....oldest being sec 3 or 4...

yong93 SG

TT's For Being Infantry Confused

fymk SG

I am talking in hypotheticals as in if I am the girl's mother.

I don't give a damn about the boy - he knows what he is doing at this age is wrong . He should be punished.

Who are you to question my opinion. It is mine.

fymk SG

You are treating the 12 year old as though he is a 2 year old toddler who doesn't know what is right from wrong.

The case is about a 12 year old who allegedly molested a 7 year old.

In Sasebo and Nagasaki , two 12 year olds have killed before. The Nagasaki case - the 12 year old boy molested a 4 year old and killed him. Not to mention two 10 year olds who decided to kill an innocent toddler in the UK several years back- the James Bulger case.

So I would be very cautious about that 12 year old boy. You can all laugh and be thankful that it is not Japan but there will be always a first time for everything.

Daisuke-kun SG

simi
the 12 yr old gay?

fymk SG

I am on your side . Don't give a crap about those who think it is right to let a 12 year old walk away scot free or those who think that child molestation is funny joke.

fymk SG

Yah, the 12 year old boy who allegedly molested the 7 year old niece of the TS.

Daisuke-kun SG

nolar.
was talking bout the news.

ceecookie SG

I know the British teen case - that occured just after production of Mr Bean epsiode of the lost baby finished.As a result the show was aired a year later so that it wont be in bad taste after the incident

fymk SG

I checked the Penal Code of Singapore and it seems that I am right .

Chapter IV: General exceptions
Act of a child under 7 years of age.
82. Nothing is an offence which is done by a child under 7 years of age.
...Act of a child above 7 and under 12 years of age, who has not sufficient maturity of understanding.
83. Nothing is an offence which is done by a child above 7 years of age and under 12, who has not attained sufficient maturity of understanding to judge of the nature and consequence of his conduct on that occasion

The boy is 12 years old and therefore have the sufficient maturity of understanding to be judged .

So it means that if the case is reported and the prosecutor decides to charge , the courts will take it up and not waive it like how some would wish to claim.

Sorry to disappoint those who want to claim that he is a kid and therefore should be let off the hook.

fymk SG

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/3772737.stm

metalcar SG

y u wan 2 blow this matter up -.- maybe the boy has already learnt his lessons n willing to turn over a new leaf..? hu doesnt make mistakes.. every1 shud be given a chance when they make their first mistakes ma.. i feel tat his parents shud just punish him at home, warn and educate him.. deres no nid to be so "jue(2)"....

gigabyte14 SG

then let me ask, are YOU the girl's MOTHER?

yes, then reply

no, stfu

you don't even have to give me the crap text, don't waste your strength

crimson soldier SG

its not about the boy but his parents who have not taken their child in hand. at 12 years old he can't really be responsible.

for the girl ah...don't need to worry also lah. She won't remember much plus she don't know the significance of the incident.

I was molested before last time(forgot what year but it was when PS just opened for biz) at PS second top level. I did not know that I had been assaulted until I grew much, much older. I do not feel angry anymore.

soleachip SG

Hi TS,

If this was the case of bystander knowing an aunt is committing adultery, a granduncle usurping family business, by all means take regard for harmony and let it ride for sake of relative issues.

But in the case of sexual abuse against any child, there is no need for moral debate you report the case no matter what. Would you be just as baffled if it werent your niece against her cousin?

Suppose you witness an old friend in the room with a 6yo boy repeatedly and he's obviously sexually involved with the child, what would you have done? Taken a long drive feeling vexed, then come home to AA for opinions? Given your familys scenario, it sounds like something someone like you wouldve done anyway. How old are you TS, 12 like her cousin? There is no grey area in this issue, please report the case. You are an adult and the matter has come to your knowledge, it's your call now.

I know of two good friends, sexually abused when they were kids. One, that of a close friend raped by an elder brother since 12, at 16 she topped our school in O Levels, but discontinued her studies (for reasons none of us understood then) before moving out on her own. At 23 she went home to her mother and brother, but has since beaten him up for cheating on his wife then warned him against committing the same act to his 3yo daughter. If it werent for an ill-considered history, most of the damage today could not have taken place.

Another case was that of a buddy, cared for by an uncle who repeatedly sexually abused him over a few years he was less than 12 when it happened.

I am not a professional counselor but I know for a fact that these things happen and they mess up on its victims in much bigger ways than you can ever imagine. You need to report the case and your niece needs counseling.

crimson soldier SG

I disagree because of the young ages of the people involved.

The boy is too young to understand how to CONTROL his urges and his hormones, at the start of his puberty. That does not absolve his responsibility totally however his parents and teachers are to be blamed.

For the girl she's too young to understand the REAL significance of the assault. She does not need to grow up hating guys or what. She can be talked to at a later age, say 10-12. Meanwhile it's more important to make sure she does not get messed up emotionally(police action will not solve it) and that she learns how to protect herself.

metalcar SG

i feel tat hor.. TS shud not make things worse for her niece.. instead of saying .. " tat guy molested u and i'll make sure he is going to get punish by the law", U shud say " hey its nth.. its OVER.. lets forget abt this. come help me prepare/plan the activities for this upcoming christmas !" ... wouldnt she feel much more happier..? u shud settle this prob quietly wif the boy AND his parents.. dun let ur niece feel tat this issue is a serious one.. if ur niece feel tat this is a BIG issue, then she would probably be very upset cus she gt MOLESTED.. she would be tinkin of sumtin like this (omg.. i got molested..im dead)

so wad to do ? u believe wad ur niece says and the parents of the boy believe tat he did not do tat.. So u shud warn the boy.. telin me tat if he do it again u will (blablala) ... and u shud oso advise the parents of the boys to educate and discipline him.. say sumtin like this to the boy,

" u noe ursef whether u have done it.. if u did not do it den lets forget abt this incident.. and if u really did it then fine..make sure u dun do i again to other ppl in future or u will be handled by the police.. this is my last warnin to u"..

isnt it gd tis way ? ur niece is happier and the boy repents

jojobeach SG

Why the boy got access to recorded porn har ?

How come nobody mention should punish the owner of the porn for letting the kids have access to it har ?

12 year old watch porn is ok meh ?

How come nobody mentioned that the mother of the girl is also guilty of negligence ?

Is it not also the duty of a parent to ensure the girl is protected ?
Why is she being left alone with a 12 year old boy ?

Perpetrators of child molest cases are mostly family members or someone who knows the family well.

Even uncles will rape the nieces, teachers will molest the students.

Why are parents nowadays so negligent ?????

fymk SG

You seem to think child molestation is a small matter just because it is a 12 year old perpetrator. Have you known molested children ? Have you know victims of sexual abuse when they were children? If not, don't talk.

Beginning psychopaths and sociopaths start early with helpless animals and children - this boy will escalate in his behaviour when his actions are not punished. Why are you so aggressive about the view that I make on taking it to the police .

I don't think it is a small matter . Can't take my opinion? Don't comment on it then.

Oh btw Penal code states clearly and contradicts what you say. A 12 year old is considered to have sufficient understanding of what is right and what is wrong, unless he is mentally challenged i.e. mental retardation etc.

Are you a lawyer? Are you a regular police man ? Do you work with the courts? Because if you are any of those, I would be interested to see what else you can contradict.

fymk SG

I disagree. The girl is 7 years old . She is in Primary school. I still can remember what went on in Primary School at the age and I am 20+ years older than this TS 's niece.

The boy is not too young to get reported if the TS 's sister in law wishes to do so.

I hate inaction on the father's part frankly . It is only later they will find out that what sort of damage it will have on the girl.

fymk SG

Zero tolerance for child molestation.

It is not about the boy accidentally touching the girl wrongly. He pulled his pants down according to the niece's description of the situation ( but it is hearsay now) - if this fact is true , then he has an intention to do something but the little girl doesn't know what.

And from what the TS posted - it is not just a one off incident.

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