Miscellaneous Topics on Buses

last SG · 2013-03-22T22:45:39+00:00

Good BIS will closed down forever,HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!yeah no more creepy clones ... *cough*

jurongresident SG

Hi. Thanks for sharing with us the link to the PDF document. :)

I tried it myself.

It is a very time-consuming work.

^^ Close enough, although I know the actual one would be different, due to changes in design over the years.

Path Light SG

How to download the LTA Identity font?

AJQZC SG

Food for thought.

For the following questions, consider the services run by PTOs (SBST, SMRT), as a guideline.

Q1: Find the bus service(s) with the MOST number of service links across all of its stops in one/both directions, incl. of interchanges and terminals with alighting/boarding. Those passing by, but do not stop at a common bus stop do not count.

Q1a: Can subcategorize for trunks/express/feeders etc.

Q2 & Q2a: Same as Q1, but for the LEAST number of links.

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Now find some groups of bus services (from the list at the top) that do not share any common links (bus stop, int or term) between any two of them. i.e. entirely mutually exclusive. Exception given for terminals that do not allow boarding/alighting (e.g. Buona Vista, Kent Ridge).

Q3: Find the group(s) with the most possible number of services, and list the services.

Q4: Find the group(s) with the longest combined route length of all the services in it, and list the services.

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Just some of my random midnight musings. But probably very, VERY difficult. Especially Q3 and Q4.

proudtobeme SG

very tough question.

AJQZC SG

Food for thought.

For the following questions, consider the services run by PTOs (SBST, SMRT), including all trunks, feeders/townlinks/intratowns, express routes. Short trips, premium/city-directs not counted.

Q1: Find the bus service(s) with the MOST number of service links across all of its stops in one/both directions, incl. of interchanges and terminals with alighting/boarding. Those passing by, but do not stop at a common bus stop do not count.

Q1a: Can subcategorize for trunks/express/feeders etc.

Q2 & Q2a: Same as Q1, but for the LEAST number of links.

Q2a (the trunk service with LEAST links) may be 42 ... it shares the Sims Ave East bus stop with 2, 7, 24, 25, 26, 28, 30, 32, 33, 67, 854, and Siglap Rd with 40 and 401, with a total of 13 links. Other short trunks 4, 11, 20, 115 ... all seem to have more links.

201911 SG

Food for thought.

For the following questions, consider the services run by PTOs (SBST, SMRT), including all trunks, feeders/townlinks/intratowns, express routes. Short trips, premium/city-directs not counted.

Q1a: Can subcategorize for trunks/express/feeders etc.

Q2 & Q2a: Same as Q1, but for the LEAST number of links.

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Now find some groups of bus services (from the list at the top) that do not share any common links (bus stop, int or term) between any two of them. i.e. entirely mutually exclusive.

Q3: Find the group(s) with the most possible number of services, and list the services.

Q4: Find the group(s) with the longest combined route length of all the services in it, and list the services.

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Just some of my random midnight musings. But probably very, VERY difficult. Especially Q3 and Q4.

Q2 should be 882 and 981 I think... 859, 859A/B, 167, 980, 882/981 (the other one) from SBW Int, 169, 856, 858 and 962 along their route, total 9 bus svc links. Although it's great that 882 and 981 link to all the passing through svcs (I just realised this actually), Sembawang is probably the most isolated town in terms of bus svc coverage, unless the rumours of a new trunk svc to Punggol are true (linking the 2 most isolated towns lol).

Although when Joo Koon Int opens, I think some bus svcs re-routed there may have even fewer links. Hopefully not too much of a problem if there are bus svcs to Jurong West/Boon Lay, and MRT to other parts of Sg.

I wouldn't want to try Q1, although many long cross-island bus svcs passing thru the city area would be good candidates, such as 14, 51, 143, 147, 196, 197.

Q3 might be between west and east/northeast svcs, e.g. Boon Lay - Tampines, or Boon Lay - Sengkang. Not so sure abt Q4, although Boon Lay svcs would be quite long due to JIS (for now).

AJQZC SG

I wouldn't want to try Q1, although many long cross-island bus svcs passing thru the city area would be good candidates, such as 14, 51, 143, 147, 196, 197.

Q3 might be between west and east/northeast svcs, e.g. Boon Lay - Tampines, or Boon Lay - Sengkang. Not so sure abt Q4, although Boon Lay svcs would be quite long due to JIS (for now).

Ah, you got me on that one for Q2. Oops. But it's easy to overlook 882, as its route is akin to a feeder's, and 981's a peak-hour service.

For Q3, I was referring to a collection of services that simply do not meet each other at any bus stop, with at most only one service from any bus interchange. So we could have a group of trunks such as 4, 25, 49, 54, 70, 77, 84, 90, 91, 96, 140, 161, 170, 182, 402, 403, 882, 975 ... etc, with even more members when we include more of the criss-crossing routes. (Which is why I say Q4 is hard...)

array88 SG

I wouldn't want to try Q1, although many long cross-island bus svcs passing thru the city area would be good candidates, such as 14, 51, 143, 147, 196, 197.

Q3 might be between west and east/northeast svcs, e.g. Boon Lay - Tampines, or Boon Lay - Sengkang. Not so sure abt Q4, although Boon Lay svcs would be quite long due to JIS (for now).

I'm sure the answer for Q2 will change after Joo Koon Int opens...

array88 SG

Food for thought.

For the following questions, consider the services run by PTOs (SBST, SMRT), including all trunks, feeders/townlinks/intratowns, express routes. Short trips, premium/city-directs not counted.

Q1a: Can subcategorize for trunks/express/feeders etc.

Q2 & Q2a: Same as Q1, but for the LEAST number of links.

=============================

Now find some groups of bus services (from the list at the top) that do not share any common links (bus stop, int or term) between any two of them. i.e. entirely mutually exclusive.

Q3: Find the group(s) with the most possible number of services, and list the services.

Q4: Find the group(s) with the longest combined route length of all the services in it, and list the services.

=============================

Just some of my random midnight musings. But probably very, VERY difficult. Especially Q3 and Q4.

Are M variants (and 17A, 170X, 700A, 859A/B, 961A) counted?

AJQZC SG

Are M variants (and 17A, 170X, 700A, 859A/B, 961A) counted?

Variants are counted, short-trips are not.

So 162M, 700A, 961C are counted. 17A, 131M, 170X, 859A/B are not.

BusAnalayzer SG

Looking at just 40 units of WAB bendy, I really wonder when SMRT will make all its feeders / intra-towns WAB.. on SBST side already have them WAB for a long long time (in years).

WAB Status: 301, 302 (soon), 307, 802, 803, 804, 811, 901 (soon), 911 (but fleet is horribly downgraded), 920, 922, 941, 945, 947 (BPJ/BBT are easy as no bendy, though 945 deserves and 920/922 will soon need with DTL2).

Non-WAB

300 (major CCK service). I think this will be the last feeder to go WAB considering 301, 983 cover most of its route

800 (similarly I think this will be one of last to go WAB since 811/8-4 covers most of its route)

Critically WAB needed

806 (only if 6/10 remaining A24s go for this service)

812 (if 4 of the 4 remaining A24s go for this service, considering 6 go to 806)

Now... still left

900, 903, 912, 913 (how the hell are they going to make these WABs... they don't even have other WAB services to cover for them unlike 300/800)

This means sooner or later some feeder/intra-town services will have to get DDs. No choice, otherwise they will remain non-WAB forever.

BusAnalayzer SG

Best DD candidates IMO: 804 (bendy should transfer to 806), 900, 901, 903, 912

Bendy candidates: 911, 913 (901 bendy should be transfered to 913 + few more)

Also in future: 920, 922, 945 might get 2 DDs each.

TPS Timothy Mok SG

180 & 184 (how the hell are they going to make these WAB...). They are not BSEPs, so it is the best to mass transfer MAN A24s over from 302 and 901 across.

BusAnalayzer SG

180 & 184 (how the hell are they going to make these WAB...). They are not BSEPs, so it is the best to mass transfer MAN A24s over from 302 and 901 across.

And how do you propose 302 and 901 to be WAB then?

180/184 can still use the new MANA95 DDs.

BusAnalayzer SG

SMRT has put itself into a big quandry as it has a huge number of non-WAB bendies that will have to float around multiple services.

SMB145B SG

DDs for 804, 806, 901and 911. 912 and 913 mixed.

carbikebus SG

Only 3 out of the 12 packages is tendered while the other 9 still in under the incumbents control for another 5 years till their BOL expired in 2022,Meaning SMRT might buy another few batch of A24s for their feeders and Intratowns.In future you will not see their feeders with full bendy fleet anymore because LTA will introduce bus service that run parrallel with those heavy loadings feeders and intratowns.Service like 912 all will tio 60% bendy 40% A22s and a new short trunk DD service will cover their heavy sector loadings

BusAnalayzer SG

I dont think there will be another bendy order. SMRT will just move to DDs :(

TIB429E SG

Hopefully they will, like mentioned, just another 40 will be enough(if all 3 areas are under SMRT).

And since LTA introduced that much svc, should make it a rule such that there will be a cap. limit of 20 passengers allowed to stand for SD/DD, 35 for Bendy.

carbikebus SG

I am pretty sure there will be another order most probably doesnt exceed 50 units.

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