Lonely, Depressed, Suicide

last SG · 2007-02-12T13:22:47+00:00

We don't have a problem on hand right here. We have a problem on hand in other threads. BTW if you say life is what meaning you make out of it, won't that m...

Devil1976 SG

I don't need you to tell me.

Eric Cartman SG

I dont listen to what others have said? Give me an example of something I ignored.

I'm glad that you acknowledge that I'm right.

Demand is too strong a word. If he doesn't want to answer my questions, what can I do to him? I can't do anything. If what I said doesn't make sense, he shouldn't be affected at all. It is clear now that the 2 of you are disturbed by my "malicious lies ". You are also demanding that I shut up.

Do you not even have the time to answer the whole crux of the matter, "why is life precious? " That is the only question I asked and youy couldn't answer. And the whole point of the TS depends on that. Endless debates? I entertain endless debates only because people don't make sense and don't want to cooperate.

Eric Cartman SG

Then shut up.

Eric Cartman SG

Agree. In fact it's quite very Singaporean to stand with the crowd and away from the lone guy. However, I certainly don't think that's really the case here? Though I won't deny that there's a chance I could be wrong about this?

You are wrong with your question mark useage.

What MCSquare spoke up for, I too sort of agreed with. Though I can't be exactly sure what's his stand for now. I disagree that MCSquare didn't wanna offend too many people. In fact if you know him well enough, he's really someone who ain't really afraid to offend people. It's just more like his habit of coming and going from time to time...?

Alright, so he is a grass on the wall. It is however a fact that he agrees that simple words like that do not help at all.

My point is that there's no point to be so critical as to poke the TS with a needle here. It's not as if he's saying this is a SOLUTION for the DEPRESSED... It's really more like a form of MOTIVATION...?

That motivation he is trying to make works good on mildly depressed people, but does harm to majorly depressed ones. As said before countless times, These people would have already factored in normal things like those. Repeating the same bloody thing they been listening to for more than 10+ years just makes them feel that they are right to suicide, because theyt have already factored them in before this.

Devil1976 SG

On what grounds? Did I say method used and end result are secondary?

I'm comparing TS's intention with YOURS.

He comes with a MINDSET to HELP and GUIDE. YOU?

Try to see who would really AGREE with YOUR INTENTION NOW...?

You're just here to ARGUE for the SAKE of ARGUE. Sorry, the last thing we're short of here would be ARGUEMENTS...

Caps make me look stupid? Is that a personal attack?

Do you seriously think I would bother myself with a low life like yourself just out to get kicks from contributing your nonsense and asking people to END their lives?

I certainly won't mind looking stupid.. Especially when I'm standing beside someone like you who simply couldn't look any better than me... Cool

Eric Cartman SG

Partial agree. With LIMITED RESOURCES, there's only this much we can do.

But don't get me wrong. Just because we're LIMITED and 'handicapped' doesn't mean we deserves to be POKED AT. One thing which I agree with TS. With us doing something is always better than doing nothing at all.

If you are gonna be doing something, make sure you do it good. Trying or stretching too hard can make you look fake and unreliable. If you know you are gonna suck, dont do it and sabo people.

With your arguement.. I don't think it's purely a 'counterquestion' thing.. In fact you're biting your own tail now... How many DEPRESSED and SUICIDAL people can REALLY THINK that CLEARLY? More of having people around to listen to them and SUPPORT them.... Note that what we're talking about here is VERY DIFFERENT from what you've started off with. The nature of the TS's thread and post. Before you go further, I hope you don't just go around blindly trying to bite people's tails for the SAKE of doing that ITSELF... It's TOTALLY MEANINGLESS and UNHEALTHY in here.

Think that clearly? This whole thing is about suicide. People suicide because they find living to be more torturous than living. If you can't help them with their real life problems, you should at least be able to help them by giving them a reason to live if you wanna talk. But the TS doesn't know why he wants people to live.

Coming back... If they're really suicidal and wanna die... Without them reading this 'crap' or any other 'craps' widely available on the net... They could have easily be moved to that end already... I find it PLAIN HARD-SELL arguement to say that the TS's thread is actually one with 'murderous intention'....

I did not say that his thread was started with murderous intention. I said that he is wrong. Please do not put words into my mouth.

For each article we would have to read them before we give our comments. However, there is one article right here in front of us and so we mikght as well look at it and talk about it.

It's like saying someone who is SUICIDAL because his mum is knocked down by a van FULL of ORANGES... One day he strolled on the streets and saw a man selling ORANGES, thought of his mum and killed himself. So the man was at fault and responisble for the victim's death because he was selling ORANGES...?? No?

This example of yours is totally wrong. We can tell from here that you do not know what you are arguing for.

Devil1976 SG

We're NOT OBLIGATED to 'COOPERATE' with you. So what do you think you are now? A police officer arresting us?

I've ALREADY ANSWERED your 'why is life precious?' question. GO SEARCH and READ. This is AT LEAST ONE of the MANY THINGS you've MISSED. Quit barking if you can't even figure what you're seriously thinking. Like I've said, I'm NO SLAVE of YOURS and I'm NOT OBLIGATED to 'COOPERATE' with you NOR to CARRY OUT YOUR CHORES for YOU... You're the ONE MAKING THE SILLY MISTAKES... DON'T BLAME ANYONE ELSE for YOUR OWN STUPIDITY...

We are DISTURBED NOT because you're MAKING SENSE... BECAUSE you're NOT but only out with the INTENTION to MISLEAD and ASK PEOPLE TO KILL THEMSELVES...

NOW TELL ME. EXACTLY WHICH PART OF ASKING PEOPLE TO KILL THEMSELVES DO YOU FIND IT AMUSINGLY FUNNY?

I HAVE THERE'RE LAWS OUT TO GET PEOPLE LIKE YOU IN THE FUTURE.

Devil1976 SG

You're BORING ME... Is this the BEST you can DO?

I BET you're a 15 years old just whining behind your PC right now...? Laughing

Eric Cartman SG

I certainly won't even put the blame on him if a very clinically depressed patient come across what he has posted and so decided to commit suicide like what inappropriateness you have suggested

This shows that you value intention more than results.

If someone is doing something wrong, we tell him he is wrong. As someone has already said, what the TS is doing might very well taunt the suicidal person to suicide.

Me asking people to end their lives is in another thread. Why not talk about it over there?

Devil1976 SG

And you're reading...? Rolling Eyes

Like I've said, there're NO POINT to find a NEEDLE here...

And MAY I REMIND YOU... IF you DISAGREE with what the TS has CONTRIBUTED... DO BETTER YOURSELF... Cool

Eric Cartman SG

I can only do as much as what you can correspond. You talked about other articles. There are different extents of things in different articles. You want to compare them. Then you expect me to find an article for you.

The fact is that different extents give different results. Each article has its own extents. Each article that we come across, we look at them on the spot. Not be hyper all of a sudden and dig out all the articles of this kind on the internet.

You start off with something boring, I just reflect it back to you.

Devil1976 SG

Originally posted by Eric Cartman:

If you are gonna be doing something, make sure you do it good. Trying or stretching too hard can make you look fake and unreliable. If you know you are gonna suck, dont do it and sabo people.

BULLSH|T. Saving one soul is one soul... Saving 2 is 2... Just simply because you CAN'T save the WHOLE WORLD doesn't mean you DO NOTHING about it.. We have NO INTENTION of SABOTAGING PEOPLE. ASK YOUR OWN INTENTION. Like I've said and REPEATED AGAIN. TALK is CHEAP. SHOW ME WHAT YOU CAN DO.

We're no PROFESSIONALS and NEED to live our own LIVES and WORK our OWN JOB to FEED OURSELVES. Otherwise we would just be ones adding to the LIST of people who NEEDS HELP...

But that DOESN'T mean we CAN'T HELP.

By the way, Mr Eric. I already know WHO YOU ARE. Cool HELLO.

Think that clearly? This whole thing is about suicide. People suicide because they find living to be more torturous than living. If you can't help them with their real life problems, you should at least be able to help them by giving them a reason to live if you wanna talk. But the TS doesn't know why he wants people to live.

So what? Even PROFESSIONALS sometimes can't nail it on the spot... If you can't swim, do you think there'll be better chance of saving someone who's drowning by TRYING ALL MEANS... Or BETTER if you simply tell yourself.. Sorry, I'm not trained for this? Rolling Eyes

I did not say that his thread was started with murderous intention. I said that he is wrong. Please do not put words into my mouth.

DEFINE 'WRONG'.

For each article we would have to read them before we give our comments. However, there is one article right here in front of us and so we mikght as well look at it and talk about it.

How CONVENIENT to just POINT A FINGER AT OTHERS?

How about YOUR COMMENTS to ASK OTHERS to END THEIR LIVES when they're having PROBLEMS...? MAYBE WE SHOULD DISCUSS THAT AS WELL?

And JUST EXACTLY WHAT RIGHTS DOES SOMEONE LIKE YOU WHO ASK OTHERS TO KILL THEMSELVES HAVE to 'COMMENT on OTHERS' INTENTIONS and CONTRIBUTIONS'...??

[bThis example of yours is totally wrong. We can tell from here that you do not know what you are arguing for.[/b]

REALLY? Let OTHERS be THE JUDGES THEN..?

Devil1976 SG

I don't talk about it because I don't wanna FLOOD OTHERS' threads with YOUR NONSENSE...

I'm DONE WITH YOU. LET THE OTHERS BE THE JUDGES. Cool

Devil1976 SG

DONE.

Eric Cartman SG

BULLSH|T. Saving one soul is one soul... Saving 2 is 2... Just simply because you CAN'T save the WHOLE WORLD doesn't mean you DO NOTHING about it.. We have NO INTENTION of SABOTAGING PEOPLE. ASK YOUR OWN INTENTION. Like I've said and REPEATED AGAIN. TALK is CHEAP. SHOW ME WHAT YOU CAN DO.

We're no PROFESSIONALS and NEED to live our own LIVES and WORK our OWN JOB to FEED OURSELVES. Otherwise we would just be ones adding to the LIST of people who NEEDS HELP...

But that DOESN'T mean we CAN'T HELP.

By the way, Mr Eric. I already know WHO YOU ARE. HELLO.

You can save 1 soul and destroy 2 in the process.

Do you not see here that you place intention above all else?

Yeah you can help, but if you're doing it wrong I'm gonna have to point it out.

I know I can't help, so I shut up. If I wanted to help without being perfect, I can.

I have already expected people to know who I am long ago (2 or 3 years back). Doesn't matter at all.

Eric Cartman SG

So what? Even PROFESSIONALS sometimes can't nail it on the spot... If you can't swim, do you think there'll be better chance of saving someone who's drowning by TRYING ALL MEANS... Or BETTER if you simply tell yourself.. Sorry, I'm not trained for this?

You throw a float at him, not start telling him the basics of swimming.

Eric Cartman SG

DEFINE 'WRONG'.

People who want to commit suicide are not moved by just words, especially just plainly "life is precious " with no answer following up when questioned.

Eric Cartman SG

How CONVENIENT to just POINT A FINGER AT OTHERS?

How about YOUR COMMENTS to ASK OTHERS to END THEIR LIVES when they're having PROBLEMS...? MAYBE WE SHOULD DISCUSS THAT AS WELL?

And JUST EXACTLY WHAT RIGHTS DOES SOMEONE LIKE YOU WHO ASK OTHERS TO KILL THEMSELVES HAVE to 'COMMENT on OTHERS' INTENTIONS and CONTRIBUTIONS'...??

Yup, we should.

Eric Cartman SG

Then it's just too bad that you can't do a thing about it now. You chose to blow your chance.

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