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11-4 pax from Lor 1,Stadium 3 alight then 1 last Stadium stop 7 pax,Sims before terminal 1 boarding all the way to Lor 1Ooh la la...

BusAnalayzer SG

Sbs 101 - one of the highly worked bus service around hougang area. The only service that goes inside buangkok link. One of the rare services to go to st 51. Kudos to this service!

Dup dup - LTA should make 101 bi-directional on st 51... There is 325 on st 52.. So many people along st 51 will benefit who have the service only in one direction.

SBS3004X SG

Question

If you take MRT on EW line, how would you prefer to travel to airport cargo?

1. Alight at Simei and take sv 9

2. Alight at Tampines and take sv 19

3. Alight at Pasir Ris and take sv 89

Choose your option.

1 is the best

3 is the worst

BusAnalayzer SG

1 is the best

3 is the worst

Why is 3 bad? Takes you to Pasir Ris quite fast...

SBS3688Y SG

Took SMB336S home from Bukit Timah Shopping Centre

Firstly, SL will be damn tired as it only reach WLBP at 2am in the morning. (unrelated)
Secondly, it was freaking crowded, i have to stand beside the driving cabin until Sungei Kadut area as i was unable to move as not many pax alighted throughout the journey
Thirdly, with BSEP, load cant cope with MAN, this bus either needs bendies or DDs. Freq during peak hour is as expected- late
Fourthly, Bus was late for nearly 20 mins when it reached WRI as there were jam at Kranji, im not sure if this will affect his meal break or not as he is scheduled to have his dinner at 6.55pm but only reach at 7.10pm and ends meal break at 7.25pm

if the bus contracts is in place and such things still happen, how will be responsible for under-performance? LTA? since they are in charge of the bus assets and the bus operator are only given undersize-capacity buses to operate?

TIB 585L SG

And Local SMRT SL worked 6-7 days per week with 1 day break. No wonder they hire PRC, PRC dont mind working long hours, send money back to China and be rich, Last time when i was younger, i recall a lot of friendly local SLs driving buses

carbikebus SG

Previously lot of local works as a SL cause of the 5 days week scheme but manpower issue that the co revert back to 6 days work.NZ bus drivers got rotation of 4 days and 5 days week of working scheme..Here its too stressful and tiring..

SMB128B SG

Why is 3 bad? Takes you to Pasir Ris quite fast...

Freq sucks

9 has the best freq

BusAnalayzer SG

sv 54 loading 02.06.2014 @ 5.10pm VO3x

Eu Tong Sen St -- 9, 22, 32, 46

River Valley Rd -- 53 (0/7), 64 (-4/15), 66 (-7/9), 66 (-6/6), 65 (-7/6), 64 (-5/4)

J Kiat Rd -- 64 (-2/2)

Patterson Rd -- 64 (-7/7) amazing how # of pax alighting = # of pax boarding at many of the stops along sv 54

Scotts Rd -- 62 (-12/10), 65 (0/3), 64 (-8/7)

Newton Rd -- 65 (-2/3), 65 (-3/3)

Thomson Rd -- 68 (-5/8), 67 (-4/3), 68 (-8/9), 69 (-1/2), 70 (-2/3), 74 (0/4), 75 (-2/3), 77 (-3/5)

Marymount Rd -- 78 (-1/2) peak loading, 75 (-8/5), 71 (-10/6), 70 (-4/3), 70 (-6/6), 68 (-6/4)

Bishan St 22 -- 66 (-8/6), 56 (-22/12), 52 (-7/3)

Bishan Rd -- 38 (-23/9)

Bishan St 11 -- 37 (-4/3), 29 (-10/2)

Bishan St 13 -- 18 (-14/3), 11 (-10/3)

** DD picked up 70+ pax on Thomson with most alighting at Marymount. This may also account for the poor capacity on 851.

** Quite a few pax alighted at Marymount and Bishan St 22 mall stop.

** This explains why DD was added to sv 54. The loading upto Thomson is very well managed by SDs, it is when it comes to Thomson when DDs are needed.

SBS5011L SG

sv 54 loading 02.06.2014 @ 5.10pm VO3x

Eu Tong Sen St -- 9, 22, 32, 46

River Valley Rd -- 53 (0/7), 64 (-4/15), 66 (-7/9), 66 (-6/6), 65 (-7/6), 64 (-5/4)

J Kiat Rd -- 64 (-2/2)

Patterson Rd -- 64 (-7/7) amazing how # of pax alighting = # of pax boarding at many of the stops along sv 54

Scotts Rd -- 62 (-12/10), 65 (0/3), 64 (-8/7)

Newton Rd -- 65 (-2/3), 65 (-3/3)

Thomson Rd -- 68 (-5/8), 67 (-4/3), 68 (-8/9), 69 (-1/2), 70 (-2/3), 74 (0/4), 75 (-2/3), 77 (-3/5)

Marymount Rd -- 78 (-1/2) peak loading, 75 (-8/5), 71 (-10/6), 70 (-4/3), 70 (-6/6), 68 (-6/4)

Bishan St 22 -- 66 (-8/6), 56 (-22/12), 52 (-7/3)

Bishan Rd -- 38 (-23/9)

Bishan St 11 -- 37 (-4/3), 29 (-10/2)

Bishan St 13 -- 18 (-14/3), 11 (-10/3)

** DD picked up 70+ pax on Thomson with most alighting at Marymount. This may also account for the poor capacity on 851.

** Quite a few pax alighted at Marymount and Bishan St 22 mall stop.

** This explains why DD was added to sv 54. The loading upto Thomson is very well managed by SDs, it is when it comes to Thomson when DDs are needed.

Just to add. 851 demand >>> 54

BusAnalayzer SG

Just to add. 851 demand >>> 54

duh... who would not know that... lol.

SBS3688Y SG

Freq sucks

9 has the best freq

ya true. sv 3 pax load seem to increase recently. should improve frequency.

SBS3688Y SG

Dup dup - LTA should make 101 bi-directional on st 51... There is 325 on st 52.. So many people along st 51 will benefit who have the service only in one direction.

many sv101 ppl alight at Hougang Green shopping bus-stop and some alight at Buangkok Green too, incl healthcare workers. i think current route still better as it serve more ppl. make ppl switch to 325 would be too inconvenient.

BusAnalayzer SG

Why need to switch? 325 still takes to HougAng green mall... What about st 51 residents who deserve 101 to ply both directions... Anyway St 52 residents managing with 325 one way.

BusAnalayzer SG

ya true. sv 3 pax load seem to increase recently. should improve frequency.

We were discussing Sv 9/89 here.. Not Sv 3.

BusAnalayzer SG

NEX stop at 6.30pm

Total chaos with so many pax

6.31 - Sv 22 - 28 pax boarded

6.32 - Sv 53 (could not count)

6.34 - Sv 81 (35 pax board)

6.36 - Sv 53

6.36 - Sv 70 (I guess should be 40+ pax)

6.36 - Sv 43 (around 40/45pax board)

6.37 - 315 (18 pax board)

6.40 - Sv 22 (45/50 pax board)

6.40 - Sv 70 (must be 30+ pax)

then went to opp side to take 116. Noticed high loading for even Sv 22 at NEX.... Guess for people on Boundary rd but saw quite few go upper deck.. Sv 82 did not call stop in 10-12 mins I was there. 43/70 as usual heavy loading.

BusAnalayzer SG

116 at Serangoon MRT @ 18.51

Serangoon Central -- 13

Upper Serangoon Rd -- 14 (0/1)

Boundary Rd -- 16 (0/2)

YCK link -- 20 (-2/6)

YCK rd -- 19 (-1/0), 22 (0/3), 24 (-1/3), 26 (-2/4) peak loading

AMK Ave 3 -- 25 (-7/6)

Serangoon nth ave 4 -- 21 (-11/7), 16 (-14/9)

Hougang Ave 9 -- 14 (-7/5), 15 (-1/2), 15 (-3/3)

Hougang Ave 4 -- 15 (-3/3), 16 (-1/2), 14 (-2/0)

Hougang Central -- 12 (-2/0)

** one more to the many examples of PM peak loading on Sv 116... Hougang side totally wasted... Serangoon side do have some unique loading albeit not huge for a service introduced > 18 months back.

** LTA should modify route on HG side to at least ply st 91 with new stop for HDBs there... At least people on this road will get benefited that have no service to HG MRT or Hougang 1.

sbst191 SG

116 is just a parallel bus service that provides connectivity and convenience to serangoon north/hougang residents. It is not meant to be a cash cow.

BusAnalayzer SG

116 is just a parallel bus service that provides connectivity and convenience to serangoon north/hougang residents. It is not meant to be a cash cow.

"cash cow" is a wrong term here... Let me share with you some marketing funda.

Cash cow - Resources that have been around for very long that can be milked to earn profits from them without adding more resources/promotion to it.

For instance: sv 51 can be called as cash cow because it is there for long. No additional resources are added. Very little additional or no investment is needed. All SBST does is gets the profit from this service.

sbst191 SG

"cash cow" is a wrong term here... Let me share with you some marketing funda.

Cash cow - Resources that have been around for very long that can be milked to earn profits from them without adding more resources/promotion to it.

I called it a Cash Cow because it was the govt who funded these BSEP services. The way you are modifying this bus service is to get more demand without adding resources. Isnt it appropriate to call it a cash cow?

BusAnalayzer SG

Hmm.... no it is not.... that's not what cash cow is...

On a separate note, yes, modifying the route so that it becomes more usable and gives broader access to people that don't have door-step service... you should understand this better than anyone else as you with your two accounts keep defending 113 :)

Cheers!

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