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11-4 pax from Lor 1,Stadium 3 alight then 1 last Stadium stop 7 pax,Sims before terminal 1 boarding all the way to Lor 1Ooh la la...

carbikebus SG

Seriously 115 need whole day operation..Just add 1 Split bus is more than enough..

BusAnalayzer SG

Seriously 115 need whole day operation..Just add 1 Split bus is more than enough..

115 needs re-routing - route extension.

SBS5010P SG

If 115 is not re-routed, then i dont think adding a split shift bus to it would be good. The most no.of pax i have seen on this svc is 15-20pax if 113 hasnt called at the stop yet. Right now 115 is doing fine, since it has a schedule at every bus stop ppl can check b4 waiting at the bus stop

SBS3688Y SG

Loading on sv 36 taken @ Regent Hotel (Tomlinson Rd) @ 17.25

Tomlinson Rd -- 19 pax (there were already pax on board)

Orchard Rd -- 18 (-10/9), 24 (-5/11), 34 (-2/12), 50 (0/16), 56 (-4/10), 59 (-2/5), 70 (-5/16) Dhoby Ghaut mrt... bus already packed to door at this stop, don't know if more pax would have boarded but no place.

Bras Basah Rd -- 68 (-2/0) bc did not open the doors, 70 (-1/3), 67 (-3/0) bc did not open the doors @ stop opposite swissotel/fairmont, could see many people who wanted to take bus but could not

Suntec Loop -- 66 (-7/6), 67 (-2/3)

Tanjong Katong Rd -- 61 (-8/2)

Mountbatten Rd -- 56 (-7/2)

Amber Rd -- 47 (-10/1)

Marine Parade Rd -- 33 (-18/4), 26 (-9/2) I alighted here...

** Can be clearly seen that sv 36 still has problems with loading even after 2 buses being added. There are few stops where people could not even board

** Also again it can be noticed the main loading is from Orchard to Marine Parade and that's where 36B plies, so should again consider adding DDs to this part of the route

should have 36B using DDs. last time the old sv 16 and 16E/ 390 was doing fine but then become sv 36 and then via Marine Parade hence loadings increase significantly.

carbikebus SG

Loading this morning on sv 21 from Pasir Ris Interchange @ 7.35am

Pasir Ris Interchange -- 12

Pasir Ris Dr 3 -- 17 (0/5)

Pasir Ris Dr 6 -- 29 (-2/14), 37 (-3/11)

Pasir Ris Dr 1 -- 42 (-3/8), 49 (-5/12), 52 (-3/6)

Loyang Ave -- 55 (-5/8)

Tampines Ave 7 -- 59 (-3/7), 64 (-8/13), 67 (-2/5), 70 (-5/8), 69 (-6/5)

Tampines Ave 4 -- 59 (-18/8), 58 (-9/8)

Tampines Ave 5 -- 61 (-4/7)

Tampines Ave 1 -- 60 (-9/8)

Bedok Reservoir Rd -- 60 (0/0), 66 (-1/7), 68 (-2/4), 70 (0/2), 70 (-6/6), 73 (-3/6), 70 (-9/6) kaki bukit cc, 76 (-4/10), 79 (-4/7), 78 (-7/6), 76 (-8/6)

Jalan Eunos -- 75 (-7/6), 76 (-3/4), 79 (-7/10)

Geylang Road -- 78 (-5/4), 77 (-6/5), 80 (-3/6), 74 (-11/5), 77 (-5/8), 73 (-10/6), 73 (-9/9), 70 (-9/6)

Lor 1 Geylang -- 63 (-19/12)

Boon Keng Road -- 61 (-4/2)

Bendemeer Rd -- 58 (-3/0)

Jalan Besar -- 54 (-11/7) I alighted here...

** Service 21 consistently has 70+ pax in different sectors along its route, depending on timing. For instance, PM peak, you will see 70+ pax from Pasir Ris/Downtown towards Pasir Ris Dr 1. Sometimes the loading from Bedok Reservoir to Eunos can be very high if sv 60 has not called. In the above case there was a sv 60 DD right in front

** Again high loading in the Paya Lebar-Aljunied sector towards Kallang/Jalan Besar

** To me it is very shocking, how few DDs this service has. It is almost 50% DD/SD when you have DD loading on almost every bus of sv 21, who then have to use another option to travel.

BusAnalayzer SG

should have 36B using DDs. last time the old sv 16 and 16E/ 390 was doing fine but then become sv 36 and then via Marine Parade hence loadings increase significantly.

If you observe loading of Sv 36 I have posted, people cannot board bus at certain stops due to heavy peak hour loading. This is even after fleet add by SBST and BSEP. Guess what they will do now - add 1 bus more. Why not just have DDs on 36 B. Does the job!

SBS3004X SG

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carbikebus SG

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I checked this morning for 5 straight buses..sv 21 @0710 WEG:Looks full but with few standees 0721 KUB:Fully packed but still can kope pax at Tamp Mall Bus stops towards STM 0728 CDGE:Half full!! 0737 Weg:Full seated from left view.. 0745 KUB:3/4 Full.. Although can consider long route but its super winding thus the reasons why many SDs are deployed just like 51..Only a matter of timings and its parallel to other svc along the way.. There's your invisible ink

Raza0393 SG

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BusAnalayzer SG

1. You need to note that it is difficult to estimate number of pax by observing from outside, especially for DD buses as for long distance, most people sit on the upper deck

2. The route being long, you have different sectors where loading can go 70+ pax and observing at Tampines mall AM might not be best, because lot of people alight at Tampines MRT, and load picks up again along Bedok Reservoir Rd

3. sv 21 has many unique sectors. sv 22 is the one that has many services in parallel. For sv 21, for people from Bedok Reservoir Rd for instance, have only 21 to Geylang/Paya Lebar. Same goes from Pasir Ris ave 1 to Bedok Reservoir Rd, it is the only service that connects. Hence, people have to either miss a bus or cram into the bus - not ideal for such a long route.

array88 SG

Loading on svc 24 (SBS8268T) from Changi Airport PTB3 at around 5.40pm:

This is not a proper loading level record because I didn't manage to count the number of pax onboard, nor did I count the number of pax boarded at the first few bus stops, because I was dealing with some trouble there. I only started counting at the second stop along Upper Changi Rd East and only counted number of pax boarding and alighting.

6-7 pax were onboard when I boarded the bus at PTB3. At PTB1 & PTB2, at least 6 pax each boarded. By the time the bus left PTB2 it was fully seated but with no standees. Many pax boarded along Airport Blvd so by the time the bus entered ECP there were 8-10 standees.

At the first stop along Upper Changi Rd East (@6pm), about 10 pax alighted while at least 10 boarded. After that:

Upper Changi Rd East: -0/0, -0/0, -0/2, -0/4, -0/4, -1/3

New Upper Changi Rd: -15/? (Tanah Merah Stn) (I alighted here)

**I failed to count the number of pax boarding at Tanah Merah Stn. Before TNM, the bus was already packed to the door, while amazingly after TNM, it's almost the same. Seems that at least 12 pax boarded at Tanah Merah.

**2 stops before Tanah Merah, I noticed a svc 38 bus following this bus. At these 2 stops many people (at least 5 each) went to take 38 instead.

**Seems like svc 24 can be very crowded during certain times of the day. Sometimes I also take svc 24 from Bedok to Tanah Merah in the evening (lazy to take MRT) and it's always fully packed. Once I travelled in the evening from Bedok all the way to Changi Airport and noticed that many people alighted at the last stop along Upper Changi Road East. (seems that they went shopping at Bedok before taking a bus back home)

**Saw a svc 20 DD along Upper Changi Rd East turning to Simei Rd @6.05pm. I could only see that upper decker was at least 1/2 full (most likely fully seated).

array88 SG

I wonder if off-peak and weekend loading patterns are useful here.. I would like to post some of my trips here (although they may not be solely for loading records) but I am only free during weekends.

BusAnalayzer SG

Yes feel free to post.

BusAnalayzer SG

Loading on Sv 39 from Tampines Interchange @17.45

Tampines interchange -- 14

Tampines Ave 5 -- 20 (0/6), 24 (0/4)

Tampines Ave 2 -- 31 (0/7), 34 (-4/7), 37 (-2/5), 39 (-9/11)

Tampines Ave 7 -- 43 (-2/6), 50 (-2/9)

Louyang Ave -- 48 (-7/5)

Pasir Ris dr 1 -- 52 (-4/8), 51 (-6/5), 54 (-4/7), 56 (-2/4), 58 (-2/4) bef Pasir Ris central, 58 (-9/9), 59 (-1/2), 57 (-2/0), 55 (-4/2), 60 (-8/13) bef Pasir Ris dr 12

Pasir Ris dr 12 -- 69 (-4/13) bef TPE.. I alighted here to change to 88

** most people who board with in Tampines town alight along Pasir Ris dr 1.

** quite painful ride for people who have to stand all the way to Yishun

** route should b extended to Sembawang and add at least 6 S-shift DDs for the service. Off peak, full Sd fleet.

array88 SG

Loading on Sv 39 from Tampines Interchange @17.45

Tampines interchange -- 14

Tampines Ave 5 -- 20 (0/6), 24 (0/4)

Tampines Ave 2 -- 31 (0/7), 34 (-4/7), 37 (-2/5), 39 (-9/11)

Tampines Ave 7 -- 43 (-2/6), 50 (-2/9)

Louyang Ave -- 48 (-7/5)

Pasir Ris dr 1 -- 52 (-4/8), 51 (-6/5), 54 (-4/7), 56 (-2/4), 58 (-2/4) bef Pasir Ris central, 58 (-9/9), 59 (-1/2), 57 (-2/0), 55 (-4/2), 60 (-8/13) bef Pasir Ris dr 12

Pasir Ris dr 12 -- 69 (-4/13) bef TPE.. I alighted here to change to 88

** most people who board with in Tampines town alight along Pasir Ris dr 1.

** quite painful ride for people who have to stand all the way to Yishun

** route should b extended to Sembawang and add at least 6 S-shift DDs for the service. Off peak, full Sd fleet.

Anyway when Yishun Temp Int opens DDs will be able to be deployed.

BusAnalayzer SG

Loading on sv 45 from Bedok Road to YCK around 07.30am B9TL

Bus already came with 11 pax on board ( 2 on lower deck, 9 on upper deck)

Bedok Road -- 27 (0/18), 37 (0/10), 46 (-1/10)

New Upper Changi Rd -- 45 (-19/18) Tanah Merah MRT, 51 (-5/11)

Bedok North Rd -- 56 (-4/9), 59 (-5/8), 64 (-6/11), 68 (-6/10) before Bedok North Ave 3, 70 (-4/6), 76 (-3/9), 80 (-6/10), 81 (-6/7) bef PIE

Eunos Link -- 71 (-14/4) i think lot of pax alight here to change to other bus service, 74 (-5/8), 70 (-6/2), 57 (-13/0), 56 (-1/0), 56 (-2/2)

Hougang Ave 3 -- 56 (0/0), 56 (0/0), 58 (-9/11)

Lor Ah Soo -- 66 (-7/15), 71 (-8/13), 72 (-4/5)

Upper Paya Lebar Rd -- 68 (-6/2)

Upper Serangoon Rd -- 66 (-3/2), 50 (-22/6) Serangoon MRT

Serangoon Ave 2 -- 58 (-3/11), 59 (-8/9)

AMK Ave 1 -- 65 (-2/8), 66 (-1/2), 60 (-9/3)

AMK Ave 10 -- 56 (-6/2), 58 (-9/11), 60 (-4/6), 59 (-7/6), 56 (-7/4)

YCK Road -- 48 (-12/4), 42 (-11/3) I alighted here...

** Marked in bold is all DD significant loading

** Many long distance travelers, upper deck was 90% occupied on average

** Lot of people board in Bedok town and alight along Eunos Link (understood). I noticed lot of people on upper deck, who boarded in Bedok alighted along Lor Ah Soo and Serangoon as well

** To my surprise, many people continued to board the bus along AMK Ave 10 to YCK side and when I left bus, it still had 42 pax on board

** No doubt sv 45 received a mass upgrade of DDs and also so many fleet add

** We can encourage such use of buses for long distances, when you make some sectors express and introduce higher capacity buses for more comfortable journey. Almost for the entire journey, no passenger needed to stand as peak loading was 81 pax, yet anything above 70 pax is DD worthy.

carbikebus SG

wonder how you managed to count the crowds..i count 20 paxs already blur

BusAnalayzer SG

wonder how you managed to count the crowds..i count 20 paxs already blur

Lol... I have become an expert at it now It is therapeutic for me from my stressful work life to do this.

array88 SG

Loading on svc 20 from Tampines Int at 4.24pm (SBS6375E)

Tampines Int: 10

Tampines Ave 5: 10 (-0/0), 10 (-0/0)

Tampines Ave 2: 12 (-0/2), 14 (-0/2), 13 (-1/0)

Simei Rd: 10 (-3/0)

Simei St 1: 8 (-3/1), 7 (-1/0), 5 (-2/0)

Simei St 3: 7 (-1/3) (Simei MRT Stn)

Simei St 4: 6 (-1/0), 1 (-5/0) (The only person was myself)

Changi Sth Ave 1: 1 (-0/0) (4.50pm)

Changi Sth Ave 2: 1 (-0/0), 1 (-0/0), 2 (-0/1)

Changi Sth Ave 4: 6 (-0/5)

Changi Business Pk Ctrl 2: 17 (-0/12), 22 (-0/5)

Changi Sth Ave 2: 37 (-0/15)

Changi Sth Ave 1: 28 (-10/1) (I alighted here)

- I know it was a bit early before evening peak so the loading was not so high at that time.. But I have another record taken at a later time below.

Loading on svc 20 again from Changi Business Pk Ctrl 2 at 5.37pm (SBS6314G)

Changi Business Pk Ctrl 2: 34 (-0/7), 40 (-0/6)

Changi Sth Ave 2: 53 (-0/13)

Changi Sth Ave 1: 55 (-6/8)

Simei Rd: 52 (-6/3)

Simei St 4: 59 (-1/8), 59 (-0/0) (peak loading)

Simei St 3: 37 (-25*/3*)

Simei St 1: 41 (-3/7), 52 (-5*/16*), 54 (-3/5)

Simei Rd: 44 (-16*/ 6*)

Tampines Ave 2: 35 (-11*/2), 29 (-8/2), 33 (-3/7)

Tampines Ave 5: 33 (-1/1), 31 (-2/0)

Tampines Int: -31*

* Due to some difficulties (e.g. too many pax onboard and people exiting from the front door), these figures may not be accurate. However the no. of pax onboard is accurate. (About Tampines Int, I only counted 29 pax exiting the bus)

- A lot of people are still taking the private buses at Changi Business Park. At the bus stop along Changi Business Pk Ctrl 2 where I boarded, I saw 20+ pax taking a private bus towards Tanah Merah MRT Stn, before svc 20 came a few minutes later. It seems that even if svc 20 arrives earlier they will still not take it.

- Some people alight at Changi Sth Ave 1 to transfer to CGL, despite the long walkway and the poor frequency.. Most people still alight at Simei though.

- A svc 38 bus followed this bus from Simei Rd (aft Upp Changi Rd East) all the way to PIE flyover, so at many stops more than a half of people boarded svc 38 which seemed to be less crowded. But svc 20 still has significant loading in Simei. (I think the -5/16 is recorded wrongly but there were really more than 10 pax boarding)

- At the time I took the bus, most people still didn't have problem boarding the bus.

BusAnalayzer SG

Loading on svc 20 from Tampines Int at 4.24pm (SBS6375E)

Tampines Int: 10

Tampines Ave 5: 10 (-0/0), 10 (-0/0)

Tampines Ave 2: 12 (-0/2), 14 (-0/2), 13 (-1/0)

Simei Rd: 10 (-3/0)

Simei St 1: 8 (-3/1), 7 (-1/0), 5 (-2/0)

Simei St 3: 7 (-1/3) (Simei MRT Stn)

Simei St 4: 6 (-1/0), 1 (-5/0) (The only person was myself)

Changi Sth Ave 1: 1 (-0/0) (4.50pm)

Changi Sth Ave 2: 1 (-0/0), 1 (-0/0), 2 (-0/1)

Changi Sth Ave 4: 6 (-0/5)

Changi Business Pk Ctrl 2: 17 (-0/12), 22 (-0/5)

Changi Sth Ave 2: 37 (-0/15)

Changi Sth Ave 1: 28 (-10/1) (I alighted here)

- I know it was a bit early before evening peak so the loading was not so high at that time.. But I have another record taken at a later time below.

Loading on svc 20 again from Changi Business Pk Ctrl 2 at 5.37pm (SBS6314G)

Changi Business Pk Ctrl 2: 34 (-0/7), 40 (-0/6)

Changi Sth Ave 2: 53 (-0/13)

Changi Sth Ave 1: 55 (-6/8)

Simei Rd: 52 (-6/3)

Simei St 4: 59 (-1/8), 59 (-0/0) (peak loading)

Simei St 3: 37 (-25*/3*)

Simei St 1: 41 (-3/7), 52 (-5*/16*), 54 (-3/5)

Simei Rd: 44 (-16*/ 6*)

Tampines Ave 2: 35 (-11*/2), 29 (-8/2), 33 (-3/7)

Tampines Ave 5: 33 (-1/1), 31 (-2/0)

Tampines Int: -31*

- Some people alight at Changi Sth Ave 1 to transfer to CGL, despite the long walkway and the poor frequency.. Most people still alight at Simei though.

- At the time I took the bus, most people still didn't have problem boarding the bus.

I think this reflects the loading well. There is still significant queue of people taking private bus at Tanah Merah MRT in am as well. Maybe people have 1 year pass, so still taking it. Once it expires, people might move yo sv20. Also good idea to introduce DDs coz at Simei MRT especially in am, people have to squeeze in and some left behind have to wait for 12-15 mins for next bus. Remember all these are office ppl, who do not want their shirts to get creased. I can only see the loading on Sv 20 going up, and in future, this service getting many more DDs.

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