Loading level on buses

last SG · 2014-02-18T00:10:26+00:00

11-4 pax from Lor 1,Stadium 3 alight then 1 last Stadium stop 7 pax,Sims before terminal 1 boarding all the way to Lor 1Ooh la la...

jurongresident SG

i hear frm frd jis serv empty on weekend. loss la.

Not everyone works from Monday to Friday. There are people who work on Saturday and Sunday.

Alternatively, we could have a separate set of operating hours for weekend, where the service only operates during certain periods (morning and evening) of the day.

array88 SG

i hear frm frd jis serv empty on weekend. loss la.

I did experience JIS with very few empty seats on weekends...

BusAnalayzer SG

week 23nov loading

service 65 time 5:30pm tamp int fri eve

tamp int (43), tamp av 5 (49, 54), tamp av 1 (56), bedok res rd (56, 59, 60, 59, 61, 60, 59, 64, 62, 60, 58, 60), jalan eunos (56), ubi av (62, 68, 72, 77), lor bongkok (73), circuit (75), pipit (73), circuit (72), mattar (72, 69), upp aljunied (63, 58), macpherson (61, 70, 80), mom (85), bendemeer (97, 104, 107, 109), jalan besar (104, 84, 79, 78), bencoolen (63), middle (60), bencoolen (58), ymca (54), dhoby ghat (51), winsland hse (48), somerset (40)

i take bus tamp to 313 somerset fri eve. bus take long than i thought. so late to meet my friend. but bus in opp dir of peak very full. i think all go little india orchard rd to shop on fri eve. is it same on other day of week.

high point = 109

error = +- 5 peop

sv 65 has bi-directional loading. From what I know you will see high loading from SAFRA/Kaki Bukit and UBI industrial areas towards Little India. Maybe on Mon-Thu, loading between Little India and Orchard at that time not as good as on Fridays.

sv 65 also has excellent weekend loading because of Orchard / Little India. But come 2017, this will be history.

BusAnalayzer SG

PAP MPs have been reminded not to take advantage of their position, and be wary of people who may get close to them because of their position.

I feel that every MP is the same. When their residents feedback to them about bus services, they will direct the feedback to the LTA for consideration.

It is probably just happens that Seng Kang really does lack a certain bus connection, and when the LTA receives the feedback (via the MP, via the residents), they decide to accept it and implement this bus service.

You maybe right, but I still feel the Sengkang MP does have a lot more pull than other MPs. How else can we explain DDs on 85, 102, 119 when loading hardly ever crosses 50-55 pax.

A Bus Observer SG

Can someone do a loading level on 180? Unsure why it needs bendies.

AJQZC SG

Can someone do a loading level on 180? Unsure why it needs bendies.

Not sure about now, but 180 is likely going to receive a surge in loading next month due to the connection with DTL.

BusAnalayzer SG

Fleet for CGA Services

24 - Current fleet is doing okay. Many parallel services there to share loading, and most with high capacity buses. Huge parallelism in route with sv 22, sv 28, sv 2 along its route. Sometimes you will see bus crowded at Bedok MRT only to realize people alighted 2 stops later. So even if DDs were possible for this service, max needed few good to have DDs. So no bendy required.

27 - Current fleet is doing okay. No problem with boarding bus due to high frequency. Issue is comfort level is poor as people have to stand long distance all the way through TPE. If proposed NEL/CBP service is launched, loading on sv 27 will get managed. Moreover new service will have majority high capacity fleet. So no bendy required.

34 - sv 34 loading is more of concern than sv 27. It acts as intra town and quick connect to Punggol from Tampines. Comfort level is poor + sometimes pax need to wait for next bus. If proposed NEL/CBP service is launched, loading may get shifted and issue can be quickly resolved. So no bendy required.

36 - Even after adding buses and 36B, sv 36 loading to Orchard in AM and from Suntec in PM is very high. Buses are over crowded. Problem for sv 36/48 is not Tanjong Katong road south, but on the return to MArine Parade, the sleep slope from Rochor to join ECP. Apparently, DDs cannot do the steep slope, not sure if bendies can manage. Even if bendies can, not sure LTA will be happy to introduce bendies in Orchard area. Only fix is if sv 36 is allowed to travel express along sv 518 via Marina Bay Sands to join ECP. Travel time will increase by 03-04 minutes, but maybe more comfort to people.

53 - After 25 buses and no bus doing 53A/B anymore after 53M launch, I think sv 53 is doing quite okay. No need for additional bus or HC bus at the moment. It is just good to have. No bendy required.

858 - This service required majority fleet or full fleet bendy. The long distance that it travels MANA22s cannot tank the load. Extremely important for LTA/SMRT to concentrate 858 with maximum bendies.

So in my evaluation, SBST does not need bendies (except sv 36 but may not be possible due to Orchard area). SMRT is the one that needs at least 20 A24s deployed on sv 858.

Gus.chong SG

I roughly remembered having suggested 36 to ply Marina Bay Sands as per 518 route before...but at that time it is not a good idea to fellow fans as it seems.

Microuniver1 SG

tnx for info

wsy1234 SG

i wish my area mp so strong. sengkang mp have spl relation with sbst. is it true?

if your neighbour across the road is wp town council. there are many under use DDs bus in the north east services when you get WP as the MPs in the area or nearby.

array88 SG

Fleet for CGA Services

53 - After 25 buses and no bus doing 53A/B anymore after 53M launch, I think sv 53 is doing quite okay. No need for additional bus or HC bus at the moment. It is just good to have. No bendy required.

So in my evaluation, SBST does not need bendies (except sv 36 but may not be possible due to Orchard area). SMRT is the one that needs at least 20 A24s deployed on sv 858.

Take note that a lot of workers at CGA take services like 27/34/53 and their peak hours is different from that of main working crowds. This is when you see up to half the queue unable to board 34/53. (27 still fine at CGA due to its good frequency)

I have always seen huge crowds on svc 53 at the airport. Sometimes there are even more passengers onboard than 858, and every single bus has people standing. Of course it may not always be high capacity loading, but it does warrant a few high capacity buses.

As for the Punggol-CBP service, I don't feel that it will totally ease the load on 27/34. It is very unlikely that its route will be the same as 27/34; after all, not everyone is going to Tampines MRT.

array88 SG

I roughly remembered having suggested 36 to ply Marina Bay Sands as per 518 route before...but at that time it is not a good idea to fellow fans as it seems.

I don't think 36 should do the diversion as it will increase travelling time. Maybe can have a new parallel service plying MBS and having DDs deployed.

AJQZC SG

Partial loading observation on sv 176 (SMB1381D), from Bt Panjang Rd

Tuesday 8 Dec 2015, 1746hrs

proudtobeme SG

Fleet for CGA Services

53 - After 25 buses and no bus doing 53A/B anymore after 53M launch, I think sv 53 is doing quite okay. No need for additional bus or HC bus at the moment. It is just good to have. No bendy required.

So in my evaluation, SBST does not need bendies (except sv 36 but may not be possible due to Orchard area). SMRT is the one that needs at least 20 A24s deployed on sv 858.

i go cga very regular so can say 858 have most peop. pasir ris to cga also got high load. 27 and 34 got seating load. 24 and 36 got poor load at cga.

proudtobeme SG

Partial loading observation on sv 176 (SMB1381D), from Bt Panjang Rd

Tuesday 8 Dec 2015, 1746hrs

176 opposite dir no load. can do rigid only. so all bd/dd on bmr-bpj side. 189 only 30 peop alight at bbt mrt, so all else go int to transfer to other bus?

BusAnalayzer SG

Loading on sv 34 @ 16.50 hours Tues 08/Dec

Punggol Interchange -- 18

Punggol Central -- 20 (0/2)

Punggol Rd -- 20 (-2/2), 19 (-4/3)

TPE Stop -- 17 (-5/3)

Tampines Ave 10 -- 26 (0/9), 33 (0/7), 33 (0/0), 35 (0/2), 38 (0/3)

Tampines Ave 5 -- 37 (-4/3), 46 (-4/13), 48 (-2/4), 42 (-14/8), 45 (-3/6)

Tampines Ave 2 -- 53 (-3/11), 50 (-7/4), 47 (-6/3), 32 (-20/5)

Tampines Ave 7 -- 30 (-5/3), 20 (-15/5)

CGA Boulevard -- 18 (-2/0), 18 (0/0)

Terminal 3 -- 23 (-4/9), 22 (-8/7), 23 (-6/7)

CGA Boulevard -- 26 (0/3)

Tampines Ave 7 -- 27 (-9/10), 27 (-11/11)... most ppl from CGA alighted at Ave 7

Tampines Ave 2 -- 46 (-2/21), 50 (-2/6), 54 (-3/7), 58 (-4/8)

Tampines Ave 5 -- 65 (-4/11), 67 (-5/7) bus already v crowded, 65 (-8/6), 58 (-10/3), 50 (-12/4) most people use 34 as intratown service

Tampines Ave 10 -- 53 (0/3), 55 (0/2), 55 (0/0), 68 (0/13), 68+ (-4/4?) I alighted here... many people could not board bus... at least around 12-14 pax went ahead to take bus but could not...

Bus in front = 08 min

Next bus = 08 min

Looks like frequency is around 08 min during peak hours

array88 SG

Loading on sv 34 @ 16.50 hours Tues 08/Dec

Punggol Interchange -- 18

Punggol Central -- 20 (0/2)

Punggol Rd -- 20 (-2/2), 19 (-4/3)

TPE Stop -- 17 (-5/3)

Tampines Ave 10 -- 26 (0/9), 33 (0/7), 33 (0/0), 35 (0/2), 38 (0/3)

Tampines Ave 5 -- 37 (-4/3), 46 (-4/13), 48 (-2/4), 42 (-14/8), 45 (-3/6)

Tampines Ave 2 -- 53 (-3/11), 50 (-7/4), 47 (-6/3), 32 (-20/5)

Tampines Ave 7 -- 30 (-5/3), 20 (-15/5)

CGA Boulevard -- 18 (-2/0), 18 (0/0)

Terminal 3 -- 23 (-4/9), 22 (-8/7), 23 (-6/7)

CGA Boulevard -- 26 (0/3)

Tampines Ave 7 -- 27 (-9/10), 27 (-11/11)... most ppl from CGA alighted at Ave 7

Tampines Ave 2 -- 46 (-2/21), 50 (-2/6), 54 (-3/7), 58 (-4/8)

Tampines Ave 5 -- 65 (-4/11), 67 (-5/7) bus already v crowded, 65 (-8/6), 58 (-10/3), 50 (-12/4) most people use 34 as intratown service

Tampines Ave 10 -- 53 (0/3), 55 (0/2), 55 (0/0), 68 (0/13), 68+ (-4/4?) I alighted here... many people could not board bus... at least around 12-14 pax went ahead to take bus but could not...

Bus in front = 08 min

Next bus = 08 min

Looks like frequency is around 08 min during peak hours

I think it's not true that "most people use 34 as intratown service"... Still 50-70 pax use 34 from Tampines to Punggol which is actually more than those alighted at Tampines Ave 5.

BusAnalayzer SG

I think it's not true that "most people use 34 as intratown service"... Still 50-70 pax use 34 from Tampines to Punggol which is actually more than those alighted at Tampines Ave 5.

Sorry... it didn't come out right... i meant to say many people use 34 as intra-town service... just look 30 people alight on 3 stops of ave 5 after mrt... most people from cga already alighted at ave 7 (20/26)... also if you see on my journey to cga... peak loading in tampines town went to 50+ but around 30+ alighted in tampines itself with 18 going forward to CGA...

Ofcourse there is heavy loading bet Tampines and Punggol... people were not able to board... have stated the same.

BusAnalayzer SG

Loading on sv 109 DD @ 17.15

Changi Village -- 09 (0/9), 15 (0/6)

Loyang Ave -- 25 (0/10), 26 (0/1), 26 (0/0), 26 (0/0), 35 (0/9), 39 (0/4), 43 (0/4), 45 (-1/3), 61 (-5/21)

Pasir Ris Dr 3 -- 69 (-2/10) beautiful view of Loyang Depot

Pasir Ris Dr 2 -- 72 (-2/5)

Pasir Ris Dr 1 -- 70 (-4/2), 65 (-11/6), 60 (-8/3), 60 (-3/3), 65 (-12/17) psr ris mrt, 65 (0/0), 63 (-2/0), 60 (-5/2), 59 (-3/2), 55 (-13/9)

Pasir Ris Dr 12 -- 64 (-8/17)

TPE Stop -- 69 (-5/10) I alighted here...

Loading on sv 109 quite fluctuating. Not super high loading, but good enough to justify DDs.

Bus in front = 09 mins

Bus behind = 10 mins

Seems like frequency is 10 mins during this time with back to back DDs... at least 4 DDs are back to back. There is a DD also departing Changi Village at 16.35 hours, which I think is kind of waste because by then no one leaves work and bus already passes Loyang Industrial Estate by then.

proudtobeme SG

i saw much discussion on sv 31 i took it to see for myself. i board at tamp int at 17.20

tamp int (25), tamp av 5 (44, 54), simei ave (50, 47, 58), upp changi (68, 70)

tnm mrt = here 34 peop go down. i focus only on peop alight no board. i lost count of peop board. so i go lower deck count all again.

tnm mrt (55) = saw lot of private bus peop run to take 35 in front and 31. so many not come from mrt but from private bus

tnm to bedok (52, 44, 39)

bedok mrt = 15 peop go down at bdk mrt. lot peop board. i hav go down and count again. peop prefer to take 31 than 196/197? no need walk all to int.

bedok mrt (59)

bdk south rd (58, 62)

bdk sth av 1 (61, 55)

mp rd (51, 46, 47 vic school, 42, 38, 39, 29, 28, 29)

parkway parade = 16 peop get down. i have go down and count again coz so many alight so many board

parkway parade (32)

amber rd (40)

tanj kat rd (40, 40)

dunman rd (40, 29, 23)

mountbatten rd (21, 22)

geylang rd (21)

lor 1 geylang (51) i surprise see so many peop board here

boon keng rd (50, 50)

boon keng mrt = 13 peop go down at boon keng rd but mrt stop only 05 peop get down. is it that exit on boon keng mrt close to mrt than on upp serangoon rd

upp serangoon rd (77, 78, 76, 72)

pie (72, 70)

lor 6 (65, 58)

loading all good best in tamp-bed area and geylang-tpy area.lowest in mp area. go down as low as 20 peop in mp-mountbatten. i expect more load from ite student to tnm mrt but was not so high.

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