Loading level on buses

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11-4 pax from Lor 1,Stadium 3 alight then 1 last Stadium stop 7 pax,Sims before terminal 1 boarding all the way to Lor 1Ooh la la...

BusAnalayzer SG

Partial loading observation on sv 176 (SMB1381D), from Bt Panjang Rd

Tuesday 8 Dec 2015, 1746hrs

This is expected. You should do the loading on 176 from Bukit Merah to BPJ at this time.

AJQZC SG

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AJQZC SG

(Partial) loading observations on Joo Koon services, Monday 14 Dec 2015

Sv 256 (SBS3873D), 1711 hrs

Sv 253 (SBS3982Y), 1732 hrs

Sv 99 (SBS3079E), 1853 hrs

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Casual observations at Joo Koon Int, Monday 14 Dec 2015, 1806-1853 hrs

(The list is incomplete - many services are omitted, even if timings are precise. It may also not be very accurate, as I was walking about during some of the observations. All buses involved are DDs unless specified.)

Alightings:

Boardings:

Jimmy9999 SG

Ooh la la...

BusAnalayzer SG

AJQ - I am impressed. You go one step forward than me and also document timing at every bus stop :)

BusAnalayzer SG

From what AJQ has posted, seems like:

253 has decent loading (DDs okay)

256 has poor loading (really poor), the service already seemed poorly planned

255/257 - not surprised to see good uni-directional loading

99/258 - quite decent loading (can expect to increase over time?)

182 - surprised to see bi-directional high loading. also 182 has kept its 12 buses inspite of route getting cut off.

Thanks for sharing!

BusAnalayzer SG

Typical 102 loading in PM PEAK

Hougang Int - Upper Serangoon (15-25)

Upper Serangoon - Buangkok MRT (10-15)

Buangkok MRT - Sengkang MRT (20-25)

Sengkang MRT - Sengkang West (40-50)

Sengkang West - Seletar Circus (15-20)

Seletar Circus - Sengkang West (15-20)

Sengkang West - Sengkang MRT (25-30)

Sengkang MRT - Buangkok MRT (5-15)

Buangkok MRT - Upper Serangoon (10-20)

Upper Serangoon - Hougang Int (10-15)

* So as you see, as of now the DDs on 102 are a waste. May get better utilized when occupancy increases in SW town + with more crossover from SAP next year + extension to East Camp.

BusAnalayzer SG

sv 324 can be merged with 102.

AJQZC SG

From what AJQ has posted, seems like:

253 has decent loading (DDs okay)

256 has poor loading (really poor), the service already seemed poorly planned

255/257 - not surprised to see good uni-directional loading

99/258 - quite decent loading (can expect to increase over time?)

182 - surprised to see bi-directional high loading. also 182 has kept its 12 buses inspite of route getting cut off.

Thanks for sharing!

I won't judge too quickly for 256 - after all, it was only a small time frame for which I made a loading observation (1711-1731) and boarding observation (1819) on. The service might easily have better loading during AM peak, or at a later duration at night, such as after 7pm. I did not observe much for 256 when I was at Joo Koon - my attention was mostly on the other services.

Currently 256 is just the semi-industrial section carved from the old 257, and is the only service along the stretch of Jln Ahmad Ibrahim, but it is well covered by other services along all other roads.

Based on current observations, 256 definitely has potential to divert into Kian Teck, and/or extend to Tuas via Pasir Laba, to relieve some load from 182/192/193. Will continue to check loadings at different timings.

AJQ - I am impressed. You go one step forward than me and also document timing at every bus stop :)

Dunno? I used a notebook and a pen - it might have been more efficient than entering data on a phone. :P

dupdup77 SG

sv 324 can be merged with 102.

Hi mr busanalyser, yes technically possible. Problem is sbs 324 was introduced few months ahead of sbs 102. So if withdraw sbs 324 now, it is not going to be easy to placate the residents who will definitely protest. Expectations have already been risen and people always want more bus services as it signifies more convenience. If sbs 102 is introduced earlier than sbs 324, this problem will not have arisen. Cheers. Thanks.

array88 SG

sv 324 can be merged with 102.

One problem with the merge that I realise now is that you cannot ply either Upp Serangoon Cres or Upp Serangoon View (or both) in both directions. So it's impossible to let 102 ply Upp Serangoon Cres in both directions, and they will end up with a unidirectional service only.

dupdup77 SG

Hi mr array88, yes you are right. Not LTA style to ply unidirectional route. Cheers. Thanks.

Sbs6750E SG

102 loading from Seletar Camp to Sengkang West Way at around 1200 today (WEG): #justforfun
Seletar, 2, -0+2 Jalan Kayu, 2, -0 +0, 2, -0 +0, 2, -0 +0 Sengkang West Way, 2, -0 +0, 3, -2 + 3, alighted here.

BusAnalayzer SG

True. Just a case of poor planning. When 324 was introduced, before that only I had proposed for 116 extension to loop at Jalan Kayu via 102 route. 102 should have just been introduced then.

If you see the flats at Crescent are walking distance to Upp Serangoon Rd. For View, there really are no flats there at the moment. The stop where flats are is where 62, 102, 136 call.

But I know, now that 324 is launched, it will be difficult to pull it back. Currently both 324 and 102 are doing just about 15-25 pax between Hougang and Upper Serangoon. Even a merged service will get not more than 50 pax and Citaro will be fine.

Really no need for DDs on 102. Another case of 119, just that 119 is a lost case where I feel it will never need DDs, while 102 might need in few months after extension to east camp and higher occupancy along SGK West town.

BusAnalayzer SG

Not surprised. 102 loading is quite poor currently.

array88 SG

Today I went to Joo Koon mainly to snap photos, but I tried to take note of the loading as well.

Departures:

258 (1737) - 40

257 (1738) - 5

182M (1739) - 27

99 SD (1819) - 50~60 (10 pax in queue chose not to board)

Arrivals (Benoi Rd, bef Joo Koon Int)

192 (1747) - [-75+2]

193 (1750) - [-46+2] 20~30 left

192 (1752) - [-45+2] 7~10 left

254 (1755) - [-10] 17~18 standing on lower deck

193 (1755) - [-30+1] 10~15 left

256 (1758) - ~20 pax before calling at the stop

General comments at/around Joo Koon Int:

- Peak hour for JIS comes mainly between 5.30pm and 6pm. At 6.05pm the loading already drops quite a lot.

- Most services are doing well in terms of loading, albeit most of them are unidirectional. 256 is the only problem.

- The bus stops along Benoi Rd is mainly for 192/193 pax from Tuas to alight and walk to Joo Koon MRT. For every bus at least 75% pax will alight here. Nobody really transfers to 192/193 towards Boon Lay (so we know 192's purpose is not to connect Jurong West St 63 to Joo Koon like what some people suggested, nor is it to provide a quick connection between Pioneer MRT and Tuas).

Other services terminating at Joo Koon do have around 10 pax alighting at Benoi Rd, but not to transfer to other services.

- 182 still has good loading to Tuas South during PM. Guess there are dorms there as most pax are foreign workers.

array88 SG

Loading on 258 (3306A):

(18:28) Joo Koon Int - 20

(99 in front)

Upp Jurong Rd - 20 (3 pax waiting for 192), 20, [+1] 21, [+28] 49 (Jurong Camp), 49 all the way

Pioneer Rd Nth - 49

(193 DD towards Tuas with 80% seated)

Jurong West St 63 - [-22+7] 34 (Pioneer MRT)

Jurong West St 61 - 34 (243W turns from St 62 to St 61 with 5~10 pax standing at lower deck), [-4] 30 (7~9 pax waiting at bus stop although both 243W and 258 have called)

Jurong West St 71 - [-3?] 27

Jurong West St 81 - [-6+1] 22 (opposite 258 a lot of pax alighted, upper deck empty, 243G SD at the back but didn't see loading), [-1] 21

Jurong West St 82 - [-2+2] 21

Jurong West St 75 - [-5+6] 22, [-1] 21

Jurong West St 64 - [-3] 18, 18

Boon Lay Int - [-18] 0

- Already missed the peak at Joo Koon (when there were 40 pax boarding)

- People are still not taking 258 from Pioneer - guess they either take 243W from Boon Lay or 258 from Joo Koon

- Some NS man from Jurong Camp seemed to take 258 all the way to Boon Lay, contrary to expectations. Guess this is why 192 is amended?

dupdup77 SG

Today I went to Joo Koon mainly to snap photos, but I tried to take note of the loading as well.

Departures:

258 (1737) - 40

257 (1738) - 5

182M (1739) - 27

99 SD (1819) - 50~60 (10 pax in queue chose not to board)

Arrivals (Benoi Rd, bef Joo Koon Int)

192 (1747) - [-75+2]

193 (1750) - [-46+2] 20~30 left

192 (1752) - [-45+2] 7~10 left

254 (1755) - [-10] 17~18 standing on lower deck

193 (1755) - [-30+1] 10~15 left

256 (1758) - ~20 pax before calling at the stop

General comments at/around Joo Koon Int:

- Peak hour for JIS comes mainly between 5.30pm and 6pm. At 6.05pm the loading already drops quite a lot.

- Most services are doing well in terms of loading, albeit most of them are unidirectional. 256 is the only problem.

Other services terminating at Joo Koon do have around 10 pax alighting at Benoi Rd, but not to transfer to other services.

- 182 still has good loading to Tuas South during PM. Guess there are dorms there as most pax are foreign workers.

Hi mr array88, are you staying in the east? If so, kudos to you to come all the way to the west. Well done. Cheers. Thanks.

array88 SG

Loading on 49 (6420H)
(19:31) Jurong East Temp Int - 10
(19:36) Jurong East Ctrl - 10
(19:37) Boon Lay Way - [-4] 6, 6 (opposite 99 DD fully seated, opposite 49 DD almost empty)
(19:40) Jurong Town Hall Rd - [+1] 7
(19:41) AYE - 7, [+1] 8, 8
(19:49) Yung Ho Rd - [-3+4] 9
Corporation Dr - [-4] 5, [-1] 8
(19:54) Yuan Ching Rd - 8, [-2+2] 8
(19:57) Tah Ching Rd - [-1+2] 9
(19:59) Corporation Dr - [-2] 7 (opposite 49 DD had 40-50 pax), 7
(At Corporation Rd junction, opposite 98A SD had 20-35 pax, opposite 178 had 20-30 pax)
(20:03) Corporation Rd - 7
(20:04) Boon Lay Way - [-1+14] 20 (Lakeside MRT, 98 in front)
(20:06) Jurong West St 51 - [+5] 25, [-1] 24
(20:11) Jurong West Ave 1 - [-2+2] 24

- I purposely chose this time because I thought some people would go shopping at Jurong East before taking 49 back to Taman Jurong. But I was wrong.
- Obviously taking 49 from Jurong East to Taman Jurong is slower than taking 49/98 etc from Lakeside, so the extended sector is not very helpful for Taman Jurong residents during weekdays

BusAnalayzer SG

So after array and AJQ... I also went to Joo Koon to survey.

Timing: 5pm to 6.30pm

Alighting bay (5-530pm)

99 - observed 5 buses in 30 minutes (4 DDs, 1 SD) each with 03-05 people alighting only!

182M - observed 6 buses in 30 mins, each got 80+ pax (even though interval of arrival was quick)

253 - observed 3 buses, each got 60-70 pax

254 - observed 5 buses, there was bunching, but loading was bet 40-90 pax

255 - observed 4 buses, each got 50-90 pax approx.

256 - observed 3 buses, each had 4-10 pax alighting (4, 10, 8) to be precise

257 - observed 5 buses, some had 100+ pax, some around 40 pax because of bunching.

258 - observed 2 buses only, each got 18 and 14 pax (more than sv 99)

Overall assessment is that all original services that are moved to Joo Koon are doing excellent (182/M, 254, 255, 257).

253 is the new route connecting to Joo Koon for Benoi Sector/Benoi Road. Good loading on every bus at 10 min frequency. DDs justified.

99 alighting was more poor than I expected. Departure observations was 15-30 pax but I do realize it may not be the PM peak yet as peak would be from 6pm onwards.

258 alighting was also not great, while loading higher than sv 99. 2 buses I observed each got 37 and 33 pax.

256 OMG!!! Loading is horrible. Departure is 2-5 pax. Alighting is 4-10 pax. Much lower than expected and observed by others.

So I decided to take 256 at 6pm.

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