New Bus Services Announced by LTA/PTOs

last SG · 2014-10-14T00:04:39+00:00

Loyang district includes:- Loyang Industrial Estate- Old Tampines Road- Upper Changi North (not industrial estate though)- Flora* Considering this my guess i...

dupdup77 SG

17A's first bus stop is outside of BNDEP (it enters BNDEP for termination purposes like 185 and 502/502A).

Hi mr Gus.chong, thanks for the info. Cheers

Acx1688 SG

I hope they don't count 53M as a new service... or even new supplementary service as it already existed as 53A/B.

I had a feeling it would do Bishan Int loop @ HG Ave 1. But now it is just renumbered.

17A also can be renumbered to 17M to be more consistent.

Bro, its considered a NEW service, sad to say...

Need to hit "quota" for/to report...

Sbs6750E SG

53M can just renumber to 110 and extend to Hougang bus Depot.
Via:
Hougang Street 21,
Upper Serangoon Road (Kovan MRT)
Tampines Road
Defu Avenue 1 )Hougang Bus Depot)

Marvel68 SG

Apparently, Public Transport Sg removed 102 from the upcoming bus services. It seems that there will be only be 1 more new mystery service for Punggol after 53M for this year not counting the city direct ones. Sucks.

carbikebus SG

Too many redundant service la bro,Even LTA feel the pinch of operation costs.

BusAnalayzer SG

Actually no point introducing new service just for sake of it. We don't need too many buses on road also.

For now 1 service for Punggol, 1 for Sengkang West and 1 for Yishun Ring road is good enough. Yishun ring road can be extension service.

Joo Koon/Boon Lay can get new service after rehauling the route network there.

Pasir Ris might get short feeder for Pasir Ris Grove.

carbikebus SG

Actually no point introducing new service just for sake of it. We don't need too many buses on road also.

For now 1 service for Punggol, 1 for Sengkang West and 1 for Yishun Ring road is good enough. Yishun ring road can be extension service.

Joo Koon/Boon Lay can get new service after rehauling the route network there.

Pasir Ris might get short feeder for Pasir Ris Grove.

Unless like Pasir Ris Grove which indeed can introduce a feeder svc.Most interchanges are jam packed by these so called feeder and short trunks due to their distance to and fro.

BusAnalayzer SG

In future, more new services will be required for:

Punggol

1. Punggol Waterway (depending on road network 386 can be modified to ply all of Waterway, or will need to introduce new feeder)

2. Punggol Matilda (feeder for sure)

3. Punggol Northshore (since LRT is very near, prefer if it would be extension of one of the trunks from Punggol Interchange to do Northshore, Nibong, Matilda before heading out to Sengkang)

4. Intra town for Punggol would be good

Hougang

1. Service to Buangkok Link (need alternative to 101 given the new flats)

Yishun

1. Yishun Ave 1, 8, st 44/51 (could be 1 or 2 feeders that would be required depending on the way they route)

2. Diversion of trunk service 852/853 to do Yishun Ring Road

3. Loop of 856/859 (latter is preferable) along Yishun Ring road

Woodlands

1. Feeder service needed for Woodlands Ave 9 (this will also cater to Woodlands Industrial Hub and flats along ave 9 that have to rely on 169/858) - can be achieved by extending 902 and making full day service. 902A can be launched for Republic students for AM time slots

BusAnalayzer SG

Bidadari

This new town will need new services - 1 will connect Potong Pasir and Bartley MRT. There will also be service to nearby Serangoon town given that's the closest hub with huge mall and amenities (though Bidadari might get its own)

Pasir Ris

Will need 354 to be diverted one way to cater to new condominiums in the area

New short feeder for Pasir Ris Grove

Tampines North

Here we will see extension of few services from Tampines Interchange + new intratown/feeder service for Tampines North

Changi Business Park

Still poorly connected despite sv 20. Need trunk service to NEL that will complement sv 27 as well as new service to Bedok via Tanah Merah

Bedok

Short trunk service between Bedok and Bayshore. This condo is HUGE and has been neglected for years with its own private buses operating. And they are not cheap.

Eunos

Industrial service would be good to connect to neglected parts of Kaki Bukit and UBI industrial area

BusAnalayzer SG

Marina South

With new CBD coming up in Marina South, we might see a new terminal and some of Shenton Way services terminating here.

Whompoa

sv 139M can become service that loops around Jalan Tanameram.. given the new HDB blocks coming here

Sbs6750E SG

Cck: Feeder to Yew Tee,
Bpj:
Short trunk to Yew Tee,
Bbt:
Feeder to Gombak (Can extend 990).

BusAnalayzer SG

Bukit Panjang

Ring road will need one more trunk service in addition to 972. Capacity on 920/922 will have to be increased with DTL2

New service for Chestnut/Hillview connecting Bukit Panjang and Bukit Batok towns

CCK

Keat Hong will need new feeder service for ave 7 and grove.

983 extension to BPJ

700 should get extended to CCK via Keat Hong

Jurong West

New service will be needed near Jurong rail station to KL. This could be mixture of 1 short trunks/diversion of existing service to start here

Jurong Lake District: Corporation Road (only has 178 for the moment)

Jurong West Ave 2 (needs another service with flats coming up, only has 157 at the moment, can be supplemented by diverting one of existing services)

AJQZC SG

Cck: Feeder to Yew Tee,
Bpj:
Short trunk to Yew Tee,
Bbt:
Feeder to Gombak (Can extend 990).

A trunk to Bt Panjang will benefit Yew Tee residents better considering the crowd at CCK, thus my earlier suggestion of extending 177 to Yew Tee via Woodlands Rd & KJE (as the BTP ITH won't be ready by DTL2 opening).

Bt Gombak isn't in dire need of feeders yet, there's 187 / 188 / 947 / 985 to help with the load at West Ave 4, and 945 / MRT at West Ave 5. If a direct connection is in demand, consider amending 947 to serve Bt Gombak MRT then. The upcoming West Ave 8 area, though, can have one good feeder / trunk service.

AJQZC SG

Bukit Panjang

Ring road will need one more trunk service in addition to 972. Capacity on 920/922 will have to be increased with DTL2

New service for Chestnut/Hillview connecting Bukit Panjang and Bukit Batok towns

CCK

Keat Hong will need new feeder service for ave 7 and grove.

983 extension to BPJ

700 should get extended to CCK via Keat Hong

Jurong West

New service will be needed near Jurong rail station to KL. This could be mixture of 1 short trunks/diversion of existing service to start here

Jurong Lake District: Corporation Road (only has 178 for the moment)

Jurong West Ave 2 (needs another service with flats coming up, only has 157 at the moment, can be supplemented by diverting one of existing services)

Overall, what we need, I believe, is the optimization of resources, not just simply introducing new services at these areas. Low-demand buses should be amended or even eliminated -- for example, at Bt Batok, 173, 178 and 990 could well be re-routed or split into more useful routes. More buses can start at depots instead of bus interchanges to prevent the addition of further load.

SBS7557R SG

Bukit Panjang

Ring road will need one more trunk service in addition to 972. Capacity on 920/922 will have to be increased with DTL2

New service for Chestnut/Hillview connecting Bukit Panjang and Bukit Batok towns

With regards to 922, I would suggest having 972 ply Bangkit Rd to eliminate the need for 922 completely. Yes, a pair of stops along Bt Panjang Ring Rd would be affected since the Senja amendment and travel time would be slightly increased with an extra loop into Senja, but it would optimize limited bus resources and reduce redundancy, since 972 largely duplicates 922.

I'll do some loading observation for 922 in a couple of days to better determine whether the above merger would be good.

920 can be retained with its unique links along Saujana Rd for now.

dupdup77 SG

I'll do some loading observation for 922 in a couple of days to better determine whether the above merger would be good.

920 can be retained with its unique links along Saujana Rd for now.

Hi mr sbs7557R, don't think of taking out smrt 922 without having an alternative replacement, ok? Bukit panjang ring Rd Blk 617 just lost SMRT 972 when it gets re-routed recently. Now left smrt 922 and smrt 971E(peak hours only). If you take out smrt 922 as well, then no more regular bus services left for this stop. Cheers. Thanks.

Aimeefackr SG

dupdup77 SG

Hi mr AJQZC, yes optimization is good. But more necessary is to introduce new bus services to serve more areas. With so much population increase from the yr 2000s to 2010s, singapore did not keep up in pace with public transport for more than 10 years until BSEP kicks off in yr 2012. Population increase = increase in bus services. But our bus services are terribly loaded until the yr 2012 launch of BSEP. So should continue to increase new bus services until the population increase is tapered off. Cheers. Thanks.

jurongresident SG

I thank Mr dupdup77 for his online forum reply ('new areas leads to more bus services'; August 10).

While it is true that new bus services are required as new areas are developed, it is not the only reason for an increase in number of bus services.

New areas do not always equate to an overall increase in demand for bus services even as more bus services are launched, as a lower demand for bus services may be observed in the old areas due to shift in population to the new areas.

If the demand is too low in an area for the amount of bus services provided, resources would be adjusted, and this may lead to a smaller number of bus services there. The net demand for bus services has to increase for an increase in number of bus services.

jurongresident

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SBS7557R SG

Yup, I did talk about the disadvantage of leaving the pair of bus stops outside Blk 617 & Blk 537A CP unserved by any full day bus service in the earlier post. If 972 had not been amended into Senja Rd/Link, its merger with 922 to ply Bangkit Rd would have been more justified.

I guess the point I want to make is that it is not very beneficial in running 922, which duplicates 972 extensively (along the first pair of Bt Panjang Ring Rd stops, Jelapang Rd, Segar Rd, Fajar Rd & Bangkit LRT) just because of a few pair of bus stops not covered by 972. Therefore, if 922 gets withdrawn, the Bangkit Rd stops can be taken over by 972 to reduce inconvenience as far as possible. On the other hand, commuters using the skipped pair of stops can walk to the pair of bus stops nearby along Senja Link, or a new pair of stops can be erected along Jelapang Rd outside Blk 531 & Blk 533 for the affected commuters.

If the above suggestions are still not good enough, maybe the additional trunk service for Ring Rd that BusAnalayzer propose can serve the Blk 617 pair of stops, with 972 amended into Bangkit Rd, thus eliminating the need for 922. Cheers.

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