Capacity Upgrade/Downgrade Reporting on Bus Services

last SG · 2014-06-02T11:57:05+00:00

254/255/257 loads can easily cross 100 pax.. Why no BSEP yet or even fleet add from SBST side... Totally ignore the JIS area.

BusAnalayzer SG

166 got another capacity downgrade with 8 SDs in fleet now.. 2 years back only had 4 SDs... this shows 166 def has lost some stem.

168 on another hand got another fleet add... operating now with 29 DDs... apparently during AM/PM peak, have 05 min departure intervals from both Bedok and Woodlands.

SBS 9256 X SG

166 got another capacity downgrade with 8 SDs in fleet now.. 2 years back only had 4 SDs... this shows 166 def has lost some stem.

168 on another hand got another fleet add... operating now with 29 DDs... apparently during AM/PM peak, have 05 min departure intervals from both Bedok and Woodlands.

Hmmm.. now RP having holiday...

1) Dun they wanna cut down on the number of DDs serving this service?
2) They should deploy more on Weekends as I see there are many passengers during the weekends.
3) I would suggest 161 to be back as a dual control with AMDEP... Seems like not up to standard with 168..

BusAnalayzer SG

Hmmm.. now RP having holiday...

161 and 168 both are equally good in standard.

161 operates 21 DDs from Hougang with all express on TPE

168 operates 29 DDs but from Bedok via Tampines and also TPE stop / Seletar stop before going to Woodlands

So if you take the runtime and distance into account, both services are plying at an interval of 05-07 mins during peak hours.

SBS 9256 X SG

161 and 168 both are equally good in standard.

161 operates 21 DDs from Hougang with all express on TPE

168 operates 29 DDs but from Bedok via Tampines and also TPE stop / Seletar stop before going to Woodlands

So if you take the runtime and distance into account, both services are plying at an interval of 05-07 mins during peak hours.

Hmmm... Okay then. Thanks for the clarification

lemon1974 SG

166 got another capacity downgrade with 8 SDs in fleet now.. 2 years back only had 4 SDs... this shows 166 def has lost some stem.

168 on another hand got another fleet add... operating now with 29 DDs... apparently during AM/PM peak, have 05 min departure intervals from both Bedok and Woodlands.

not sure where u got the info that two years ago , that there is only 4 SD for sv166?

sgwiki data dated 18/9/2013 show that there are 7 SD for sv166.

and for this year, someone have been editing Sgwiki for sv166 fleet, upgrading some SD to DD and then edit again...and then edit again... all the while, without any official change in timetable...

BusAnalayzer SG

858 did not get 5 additional buses as mentioned. Maybe it did, but then soon realized it is too excessive and the bunching/traffic conditions don't help solve the issue.

So now 858 to 30 buses... so means 2 buses added.

SBS2652G SG

S166 SDs

AM: 5062 8691 8853 6836

BB: 6631 6722 6770 6773

where SDs all operate back to back, causing chain of SDs

carbikebus SG

After few days of observation,I feel that svc 3 DDs is better stick with just 2-3 units..Its not well utilised for the upper deck.

SBS 9631X SG

After few days of observation,I feel that svc 3 DDs is better stick with just 2-3 units..Its not well utilised for the upper deck.

Yeah, the current arrangement is good enough. Make one of them run 3A/3B during Peak, and the other on the full-trip during Peak.

SBS 9631X SG

Express 502 need another 2 more DD buses.1 split and 1 full day

506 need one more full day bus,can be DD or SD.

513 need more trips for the AM trips..Would be better if 6 trips:4 DDs and 2 SDs and 4 trips for Pm..2 DDs and 2 SDs

518 need 1 more full day DD

Best if can introduce an express service from Sengkang-Bt Merah.6 DDs and 9 SDs

I actually don't need 518 needs another full-day DD though. They just need to figure out the proper timings to deploy those 3 current DDs they have. It doesn't make much sense for 3818P to return back to Pasir Ris area by 1850hrs or so, when the bulk of the evening crowd on 518 is still at the city area..

H23h9 SG

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SMB128B SG

Express 502 need another 2 more DD buses.1 split and 1 full day

506 need one more full day bus,can be DD or SD.

513 need more trips for the AM trips..Would be better if 6 trips:4 DDs and 2 SDs and 4 trips for Pm..2 DDs and 2 SDs

518 need 1 more full day DD

Best if can introduce an express service from Sengkang-Bt Merah.6 DDs and 9 SDs

If they really do care about introducing express bus routes in Sengkang they would've done so years ago...

array88 SG

If they really do care about introducing express bus routes in Sengkang they would've done so years ago...

Sengkang was not so developed years ago. With all the new flats in Sengkang and Punggol, I guess it's time for a new service.

BusAnalayzer SG

Fascinating as always, SMRT downgraded Bendy slot on 300 to MAN SD... On other hand, I think 983 is now getting 4 DDs per day... some days 3 DDs + 1 bendy.

SBS 9631X SG

Dk whether the BSEP thread or this thread is more appropriate for this, but since the BSEP thread is full of speculation, i shall post here instead:

Sv 87 had a e-tt change on Weekdays only since 22 Sep (last Tues).
I'm not 100% sure that the e-tt change was for a fleet add, but i've been seeing 3464B on Sv 87 almost practically every weekday morning since that date. In terms of fleet sequence, it's on a timing that's after 3356E, but in front of 9462S. Someone might want to check out Sv 87 and double-check this, cheers.

lemon1974 SG

Fleet add since 15 sept...there is ETT change on 15 sept (before a new ETT kick in on 22 sep, after F1 period special timetable ended).

SMB42P SG

Fascinating as always, SMRT downgraded Bendy slot on 300 to MAN SD... On other hand, I think 983 is now getting 4 DDs per day... some days 3 DDs + 1 bendy.

300 definitely need a fleet downgrade...its still every 2 - 5 min one bus during off peak..and almost all the bendies are under-utilised... at first i thought SMB1322A was a fleet add..but come to think of it..seems this is really a downgrade...

302 defintely had at least 2 rigids upgrade (AP)...and SMRT is catching BC who dun follow schedule on this service, by asking BC to print inspector ticket at 4 locations (CCK INT, YewTee MRT, Opp Blk 666 and last stop before CCK INT)

983 confirm have 3 DDs and 1 bendy (bendy on split shift). The 3DDs are 3579M, 3580H and 3599E. Bendy recently done by 1117Z again....

SMB1333T SG

Fleet add since 15 sept...there is ETT change on 15 sept (before a new ETT kick in on 22 sep, after F1 period special timetable ended).

there were some rumours that its perm as an DD upgrade, replacing BSEP taro

Anyway suspect 6415Z 56 perm, also BSEP add this month - has been seen recently for many days... ett last revision was on 22 Sep (possibly due to F1), so idk if it got an add on 14 Sep. Anyone can confirm?

lemon1974 SG

there were some rumours that its perm as an DD upgrade, replacing BSEP taro

if I remember correctly, it is a fleet add for sv87 as some peak hour trips are being added. Not ruling out possibility of conversion of BSEP Citaro slot to full day. But most likely is fleet add.

As for sv56, dun think there is ett change on 15/9 as I did check through all amdep brbp ett before 15/9. Might be replacing some Mia bus

SBS 9631X SG

if I remember correctly, it is a fleet add for sv87 as some peak hour trips are being added. Not ruling out possibility of conversion of BSEP Citaro slot to full day. But most likely is fleet add.

Should be fleet add for Sv 87 though in my opinion. It used to be 3356E followed by 9462S directly with no buses in between during AM Peak towards Sengkang, but nowadays since 2 weeks ago, as what I've posted earlier, 3464B somehow appears in between 3356E & 9462S..

I'll observe again and update here soon.

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