Bus service 53 not serving Pasir Ris residents well

SMB128B SG

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SBS 9631X SG

I hear 53 is doing quite okay from a friend living in Pasir Ris.. Was out for drinks yesterday and mentioned to him coz he lives on the end of Pasir Ris Dr 1 towards Tampines side... And he takes sv 53 often to Pasir Ris Central or Loyang Ave though not to CGA..

Here is what he said:

-- It takes around 8 mins to Pasir Ris Central, and around 18-20 mins to Loyang Ave... so was saying he thinks you would be at CGA in 30 mins (during peak).

-- He said it is irritating bcoz there are many stops, but not that it takes 40 mins to cross entire Pasir Ris.

-- Frequency he said is quite okay though he does admit sometimes it takes 14-15 mins for bus to come, but he has not faced an issue with boarding even when bus is late, but says it is maybe coz it is first stop along dr 1.

You, my friend, has your answers to your own questions with what I underlined in bold from your friend's words. Although, his words are not all crap either.

I didn't quite understand by your words of "around 18-20mins to Loyang Ave". You said he's on the side of PSR Dr 1 closer to Tampines, which would put him closer to Loyang Ave right? But idk which starting point are you / he referring to for that statement of "around 18-20mins to Loyang Ave"...I'm assuming that you / he is mentioning in the context of taking 18-20mins to Loyang Ave from the Dr 1 bus stop outside PSR MRT?

My stop is the one after that on PSR Dr 1 (78051 & 78059). There's usually a few seats & standing space left after the bus exits the expressway and onto Loyang Ave and even after your friend's stop (98091).

The fact that your friend doesn't experience much troubles taking a Sv 53 from that first stop of PSR Dr 1 to PSR Central, is also because of the existence of downroutes from the expressway during Peak hours. I think you might have forgotten about those downroutes / not aware of those.

Those downroutes' first stop towards Bishan would be the Loyang Ave bus stop, after which it would be your friend's stop (98091). And because of those empty buses on downroutes, there are still seats and standing space for quite a few stops.
The people most affected are the ones waiting at the bus stops sandwiched in the middle after my stop (that would be 78061 onwards in case you dk which im referring to) towards the Meridan JC bus stops along Dr 1. This stretch of stops is probably where the woman who complained likely stays IMO.

SBS 9631X SG

Although admittedly, 40mins is indeed an exaggeration to cross the entire PSR Dr 1 stretch. But 20-30mins to cross the entire PSR Dr 1 is definitely quite a common thing, esp during Peak Hours (I experienced that before, multiple times).

Anyway my point is to be more rational and consider the perspectives of different people staying at different stops along the stretch of PSR Dr 1. I wouldn't even say that my views are the same as those who stay in the later part of Dr 1 towards PSR Dr 12.

The woman, while kicking up a fuss over this small matter, she did have some truth in her words from her perspective.

SMB128B SG

You, my friend, has your answers to your own questions with what I underlined in bold from your friend's words. Although, his words are not all crap either.

I think he is referring to those near IKEA...

Well its near Tampines too in a sense, and Dr 12 bus stop is also right after 53 gets off the TPE from KPE

And above all, it only makes sense for it to be there to be 18-20 mins away from Loyang (whether is true anot is open to debate)

Acx1688 SG

All politics are local in every country in the world... ie local issues wrt transport, livelihood

If not incumbent would not have introduced BSEP, CDS,PPSS after GE 2011 for SG.

Acx1688 SG

Yes SMB128, LTA is still 2 steps slow

Ev now n then some surveyor will drop by Mountbatten Rd bus stop(Os One Amber) for a day, record sv36 loading then disappear.

Till date 36 still equally crowded, 36B comes at wrong timings, morning peak...

sv196 bunch 3 together at 0745 same bus stop, after tt 10mins apart till 0820, cluster again

wsy1234 SG

Hi mr wsy1234, this is a bus forum. Please leave politics out of this. Do not link whatever issue to politics. Thanks.

hi mr dupdup77 this is something people cannot just ignore as you can see LTA and politics is always linked and the ward that the minister is in has been removed as a safeguard, it viewed as a danger ward for the ruling party. as for 53 maybe is up to the RCs to fight for a proper service to serve them. just like most north east and north HDB town. or else you won't get to see some feeder bus services just introduce like that it the RCs and MPs request for them.

dupdup77 SG

Hi mr wsy1234, if thing becomes like this and goes the way you want, soon this forum and this topic will sway to talk about general election. There is a proper place for each type of topics in this forum. Please do not lump all of them together. Or else it defeats the purpose of creating separate places for separate topics. Cheers. Thanks.

BusAnalayzer SG

You, my friend, has your answers to your own questions with what I underlined in bold from your friend's words. Although, his words are not all crap either.

Your full explanation here does not stand true because you are assuming the end to be from Loyang Ave. Sorry my mistake as Tampines end can be assumed to be both Tampines Ave 7 and Tampines Ave 10... I meant the latter... But from my explanation shouldn't you already guess that he is saying 18-20 mins to cross all of Pasir Ris Dr 1 to Loyang Ave. Hence, he finds seats and standing space even though there are no downroutes from this end.

SMB128B SG

Yes SMB128, LTA is still 2 steps slow

Ev now n then some surveyor will drop by Mountbatten Rd bus stop(Os One Amber) for a day, record sv36 loading then disappear.

Till date 36 still equally crowded, 36B comes at wrong timings, morning peak...

sv196 bunch 3 together at 0745 same bus stop, after tt 10mins apart till 0820, cluster again

Yea, and they think TEL will help mah...

They think a goddamned 4-car train system will help mah...

Wah this LTA simi 世界 sia, alr project 6.9 still hv the audacity to use FOUR CAR TRAINS to ply like more than a dozen different neghbourhoods...

Mark my words, one day TEL's gonna meet the same fate as 190, heavy criticisms from East Coast residents...

wsy1234 SG

ok sorry :P

jurongresident SG

Why not we introduce a new bus route from Pasir Ris to Changi Airport, via going one round from Pasir Ris West to Pasir Ris East? Maybe from Bus Interchange, go into Pasir Ris West first, then come out to main road and via the main road, go into Pasir Ris East. Then from there, somehow go into Changi Airport.

Acx1688 SG

Yea, and they think TEL will help mah...

They think a goddamned 4-car train system will help mah...

Wah this LTA simi 世界 sia, alr project 6.9 still hv the audacity to use FOUR CAR TRAINS to ply like more than a dozen different neghbourhoods...

Mark my words, one day TEL's gonna meet the same fate as 190, heavy criticisms from East Coast residents...

Operators already made mistakes with purchases of so many SDs

when population expected to rise to "fill the gap"(another story)... Planning is poor with no provision of longer platform, in e end, if any upgrading works to extend is paid by taxpayers...

HK, has provision for 8 cars(currently 7) for purple line... When Hung Shui Kiu is up, add one car...

Myopic as usual...

Well, commuters will still use 14,16,36 to get to Orchard (even though hardly any SGreans shop there anymore) with suburban malls n online shopping

Betcha M Parade GRC incumbents will highlight "we lobbied hard" for TEL to come to M Parade...

Anyone replying, please dun quote LTA said WDL to M Parade v fast by train, faster than bus... Please, 966 is as direct compared big loop to city using TEL...

Acx1688 SG

You can suggest to LTA

Implementation would be another thing, if it does come true, "GROs n MPs lobbied n worked hard for it" as the same wording is rehashed during most official press releases on bus service enhancements/improvements.

SMB145B SG

Since 53 is Airport Bound, why didn't they modify the Airport to be DD-capable? The never ending Rigid spamming on svc 27, 36, 53 and 858 is getting worse.

BusAnalayzer SG

Since 53 is Airport Bound, why didn't they modify the Airport to be DD-capable? The never ending Rigid spamming on svc 27, 36, 53 and 858 is getting worse.

They have too many SDs that they ordered... Hence, all feeder services also getting spammed with more buses... can ever see 3 buses of the same number coming together these days.. it is like it just doesnt cost anything anymore to add one more bus to feeder... and most of them get it in doubles..

lemon1974 SG

no issue with the SD for SBST.. they have been ordering a lot of DDs.. it is LTA who order the additional 1000 BSEP buses which is causing the problem.. 550 buses should be more than enough... not sure why they want to order another 450 more...

jurongresident SG

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sgbuses SG

Of course its politics/pressure groups/lobbying. Why do you think the motto reads "more buses, better rides" and banners of new services/service enhancements with smiling MPs put up at several neighborhoods?

Remember, BSEP was the consequence of Singapore's political environment since GE 2011.

Just from observing social media alone - if we were to have a new transport minister after this upcoming GE, pressure groups will be the first in line to advocate for "better buses, more rides".

Perhaps a new shiny coat of paint for Singapore's buses in the future, but little will change overall. Who knows the bus industry might be headed for a trainwreck scenario, not too far from the major MRT disruptions.

jurongresident SG

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