Route Suggestions (Part 5)

last SG · 2013-12-18T00:11:01+00:00

Suggesting a route extension for 198.VIa Jln Bukit Merah, Cantonment road, Expressway, Fort Road, Mountbatten Road, Amber road, Marine parade road, bedok sou...

201911 SG

Strongly support 82/107 merger... will benefit all Punggol / Sengkang residents

while i agree sengkang/punggol need a full day bus svc to town, a new semi-express svc would be better than merging 82/107. with mrt providing a faster journey in most cases, new long bus routes should use the expressway for a faster and more direct connection, as a good alternative to bus/mrt transfer.

the new city direct svcs are cheaper than existing premium bus rts while providing similar fast connectivity, but would be better if some of them have full day variants serving additional areas like orchard, suntec or even harbourfront

Acx1688 SG

I strongly support your idea to ply along Haig road... I think out of 43, 76 and 135... 135 should be routed via Haig road and then go straight down Amber road... 43/76/135 have route duplication all from Marine Parade to Mountbatten... If 135 is diverted via Haig road, will provide direct connectivity to residents along Haig road to both Parkway Parade and Paya Lebar... You have from Paya Lebar 43/76 with DDs and good frequency to Tanjong Katong, so should not cause inconvenience. You also have sv 40 in case some people will cry that they lose direct connectivity to Pipit/Circuit/Mattar/Aljunied areas... If people from Tanjong Katong want to go to Serangoon, still have 43 to connect... for AMK still have 76... so will not cause inconvenience to people but rather benefit lot of people living along Haig road... if LTA is reading, it should consider this modification for sure.

Will try again, never hurts to write in and request, the most kena reject, again it would be the residents at Haig Rd to have a full connect to EW/Circle Line...

Acx1688 SG

Strongly support 82/107 merger and will need 24 buses according to me... This can be divided as 12 DDs, 12 SDs... will benefit all Punggol / Sengkang residents in AM peak hours to town areas... just like 147... I think this will make both 82 and 107 routes more usable, as there are many people who live along Punggol road that would like to take this service directly to Potong Pasir / Lavendar rather than take 80/82/87 --> HG MRT... and change.

LTA must consider... no pax gets affected... just benefit for everyone including SBST who will save on 2 buses...

Precisely, it will also act as a buffer in any event NEL breaks down... Punggol residents are not left in the lurch...

NS have 960 from WDL

East have 2/12/23(slightly out of the way but still to city fringes)

West have 30, 51, 97

Acx1688 SG

Bro suggested to LTA before running Punggol, partial SKG east, Hougang Ave 3, Jln Eunos, Still Rd South, ECP, Sheares Ave, Shenton Way.

Tio reject with the standard reply...

Anyway part of the route is used by 107 daily to return to HG depot after shift end...

City Direct not WAB compliant

TPS Timothy Mok SG

Extension of service 82 is made by terms and conditions:

Either to Bidadari

Or to Shenton Way once again and make it as a backup in case of MRT breakdown.

Acx1688 SG

Yes... And I also propose same for 36... Need to have 36E... Routed via ECP direct to airport.

Good to have express for sv36E, means it will be running as an alternative to taxis/MRT, fare should be at ffw/Express rates...

With a schedule of 20mins headway from CGA, 1st stop in city should be Temasek Boulevard(Conrad Hotel)

Meaning 36B should be running for full day to cater to the M Parade to ORC crowd, DD deployed...

Correct me if i am wrong, A FEW folks gave me the impression SG DDs has no power to go up Rochor ramp to BJB... so can our DDs go up Rochor ramp?!

HK DDs can go up steep ramps esp the ones that go up the ramp to get to Ap Lei Chau/South Horizons...

Our DDs no power?!

Acx1688 SG

Extension of service 82 is made by terms and conditions:

Either to Bidadari

Or to Shenton Way once again and make it as a backup in case of MRT breakdown.

T & C?! Bidadari?!

to shenton way is really to back up in case of NEL breakdown, that was why i suggested to LTA and emphasising this point

TIB1096A SG

https://www.google.com.sg/maps/ms?msid=211683730974815289058.0004f3ec49449c60aa389&msa=0&ll=1.292179,103.858116&spn=0.014609,0.016544

36E

dupdup77 SG

LTA rejects all suggestions... They feel they are the best... Makes absolutely sense to merge 82/107... This is so obvious... I don't know why they don't do it... It won't disturb even one person due to route parallelism.

Hi mr BusAnalyser, persist on until LTA relents. Sooner or later, they will combine sbs 82 and sbs 107. Cheers

dupdup77 SG

Can try again though, sad that LTA keep on harping on hub and spoke and when anyone suggest a bus service to hub and spoke, tio reject flatly... in that case, how to get people to switch to public transport!? departments within LTA are not collaborating hard enough... more talk than do...

For Haig Rd link to PYL suggestion to divert sv76, sv43,76 have heavy duplication even though their end terminals are different...

Heavy usage for 43,76,135 is from PYL station to M Parade Rd, loading will not be that bad assuming FULL bus lanes implementation which is NEVER GOING to happen...

Really pity students walking to their schools from bus stops at Amber Rd, East Coast Rd rain or shine... damn sad...

Hi mr Acx1688, persist on. Pressurize LTA until they relent. I will hope to see the combination of sbs 82 and sbs 107 into 1 route. Cheers.

dupdup77 SG

Back to 82/107, before NEL introduce, 82 run from Punggol End to Shenton Way... SDs...

Can upgrade extended 82 to FULL DD service and special 82e plying Punggol/part of SKG before going KPE/Shenton Way area as suggested by a few bros here.

Correspondence with LTA seem to give me the impression that there is Premium 569 running in the morning, find it puzzling, Punggol residents must pay premium ride and worse only one trip every weekday just to get to town?! It does not hold as most of the housing estates(except Yew Tee, but that is another story) have at least one service to town/CBD area. (please do not ask me to list hor, you all should knoe)

After that, kena chopped to end at SGN station, if NEL breakdown at Punggol, Punggol residents ho say liao, but wait for MRT shuttle will at least be better than SMRT's dilly dally denial attitude...

Hi mr Acx1688, good reasoning by you to LTA. Punggol residents must pay premium ride and worse only 1 trip every weekday to town??? What the heck is LTA thinking of? Quick combine sbs 82 and sbs 107. Write until they relent. We only want pay normal pricing and have it at all times of a day. Don't give any more reasons. Thanks for thinking on behalf of Punggol residents. If mrt breaks down, there is still sbs 62 from Punggol field to hougang ave 2 to switch to sbs 107. No need mrt. Cheers.

201911 SG

With the Bukit Panjang MRT station coming up, I foresee some route changes in CCK to better connect certain areas to Bukit Panjang MRT. Teck Whye Ave has 975 and 190 to Bukit Panjang, while Choa Chu Kang Way has 67 as well as the LRT. However, the western side of CCK unserved by the LRT as well as Yew Tee up north have no direct connection to Bukit Panjang. Thus, I propose the following new routes:

Feeder 303

Choa Chu Kang Int [Choa Chu Kang MRT/LRT]

Choa Chu Kang Dr [non-stop]

Choa Chu Kang Ave 3 [new bus stops near the junction with CCK Central]

Brickland Rd [new bus stops]

Bukit Batok Rd

Choa Chu Kang Rd

Upp Bukit Timah Rd [Bukit Panjang MRT]

Petir Rd [Bukit Panjang LRT]

Bt Panjang Rd

Choa Chu Kang Rd

Bukit Batok Rd

Brickland Rd [new bus stops]

Choa Chu Kang Ave 3

Choa Chu Kang Dr [non-stop]

Choa Chu Kang Int [Choa Chu Kang MRT/LRT]

-connects existing and upcoming flats at western side of Choa Chu Kang (Ave 3 and Brickland Rd) to Choa Chu Kang and Bukit Panjang MRT/LRT, as well as amenities such as ITE College West

Feeder 304

Choa Chu Kang Int [Choa Chu Kang MRT/LRT]

Choa Chu Kang Ave 4 [non-stop]

Choa Chu Kang Way [new bus stops]

Choa Chu Kang North 7

Choa Chu Kang Dr [Yew Tee MRT] [serves the NR3 bus stop pair]

Choa Chu Kang North 5

Stagmont Ring [non-stop]

Woodlands Rd

Senja Way [new bus stops]

Senja Rd

Bukit Panjang Ring Rd

Bukit Panjang Rd

Upp Bukit Timah Rd [Bukit Panjang MRT]

Petir Rd [Bukit Panjang LRT]

Jelebu Rd

Bukit Panjang Ring Rd

Senja Rd

Senja Way [new bus stops]

Woodlands Rd

Stagmont Ring [non-stop]

Choa Chu Kang North 5

Choa Chu Kang Dr [Yew Tee MRT]

Choa Chu Kang North 7

Choa Chu Kang Way [new bus stops]

Choa Chu Kang Ave 4 [non stop]

Choa Chu Kang Int [Choa Chu Kang MRT/LRT]

-connects Yew Tee and Bukit Panjang/Senja via Woodlands Rd, providing convenient access to Bukit Panjang MRT/LRT and amenities such as Choa Chu Kang stadium

-connects Mowbray Camp and Kranji Camp II to Choa Chu Kang, Yew Tee and Bukit Panjang MRT stations

*I have previously suggested a route between CCK/Yew Tee/BPJ and Punggol/Sengkang that provides a similar connection between Yew Tee and BPJ, but a short feeder or trunk route like this one is more likely under LTA's so-called hub and spoke transport model.

Amended service 171

(existing route from Yishun to Bukit Panjang)

Jelebu Rd [Bukit Panjang MRT/LRT within walking distance]

Bukit Panjang Rd

Choa Chu Kang Rd

Teck Whye Ave

Teck Whye Cres [new bus stop]

Choa Chu Kang Dr

Choa Chu Kang Int [Choa Chu Kang MRT/LRT]

-removes the Bukit Panjang - Marina Centre portion, which duplicates other bus services and the upcoming Downtown Line stage 2

-provides direct bus connection between Yishun and Choa Chu Kang

-serves schools and flats along Teck Whye Cres

map: http://goo.gl/maps/YruZ5

mwhale7886 SG

I know its unlikey, but here it is.

SMRT Trunk 889

Sembawang Int <--> Bukit Batok Int

https://mapsengine.google.com/map/edit?mid=z5U3OUiwcVD8.kC8-x4Epc3hM

Improves connectivity in the Woodlands and Bukit Batok area and serves BBK St 25. Also serves a part of Sungei Kadut that isn't served by 925. Useful for people living in Bukit Batok or Woodlands and working in Sungei Kadut.

Notes:

Express along Turf Club Rd

Operating Hours

*Doesn't operate on Weekends and Public Holidays

Frequency: ~15 minutes

Morning Peak Evening Peak

First Bus 0615 1715

Last Bus 0800 1900

BusAnalayzer SG

Feeder 303

Choa Chu Kang Int [Choa Chu Kang MRT/LRT]

Choa Chu Kang Dr [non-stop]

Choa Chu Kang Ave 3 [new bus stops near the junction with CCK Central]

Brickland Rd [new bus stops]

Bukit Batok Rd

Choa Chu Kang Rd

Upp Bukit Timah Rd [Bukit Panjang MRT]

Petir Rd [Bukit Panjang LRT]

Bt Panjang Rd

Choa Chu Kang Rd

Bukit Batok Rd

Brickland Rd [new bus stops]

Choa Chu Kang Ave 3

Choa Chu Kang Dr [non-stop]

Choa Chu Kang Int [Choa Chu Kang MRT/LRT]

-connects existing and upcoming flats at western side of Choa Chu Kang (Ave 3 and Brickland Rd) to Choa Chu Kang and Bukit Panjang MRT/LRT, as well as amenities such as ITE College West

Feeder 304

Choa Chu Kang Int [Choa Chu Kang MRT/LRT]

Choa Chu Kang Ave 4 [non-stop]

Choa Chu Kang Way [new bus stops]

Choa Chu Kang North 7

Choa Chu Kang Dr [Yew Tee MRT] [serves the NR3 bus stop pair]

Choa Chu Kang North 5

Stagmont Ring [non-stop]

Woodlands Rd

Senja Way [new bus stops]

Senja Rd

Bukit Panjang Ring Rd

Bukit Panjang Rd

Upp Bukit Timah Rd [Bukit Panjang MRT]

Petir Rd [Bukit Panjang LRT]

Jelebu Rd

Bukit Panjang Ring Rd

Senja Rd

Senja Way [new bus stops]

Woodlands Rd

Stagmont Ring [non-stop]

Choa Chu Kang North 5

Choa Chu Kang Dr [Yew Tee MRT]

Choa Chu Kang North 7

Choa Chu Kang Way [new bus stops]

Choa Chu Kang Ave 4 [non stop]

Choa Chu Kang Int [Choa Chu Kang MRT/LRT]

-connects Yew Tee and Bukit Panjang/Senja via Woodlands Rd, providing convenient access to Bukit Panjang MRT/LRT and amenities such as Choa Chu Kang stadium

-connects Mowbray Camp and Kranji Camp II to Choa Chu Kang, Yew Tee and Bukit Panjang MRT stations

Amended service 171

(existing route from Yishun to Bukit Panjang)

Jelebu Rd [Bukit Panjang MRT/LRT within walking distance]

Bukit Panjang Rd

Choa Chu Kang Rd

Teck Whye Ave

Teck Whye Cres [new bus stop]

Choa Chu Kang Dr

Choa Chu Kang Int [Choa Chu Kang MRT/LRT]

-removes the Bukit Panjang - Marina Centre portion, which duplicates other bus services and the upcoming Downtown Line stage 2

-provides direct bus connection between Yishun and Choa Chu Kang

-serves schools and flats along Teck Whye Cres

map: http://goo.gl/maps/YruZ5

I like the amended part of sv171... I had also proposed something similar, just that my route connects after Bukit Panjang, Woodlands Road and then comes to CCK interchange.

BusAnalayzer SG

I know its unlikey, but here it is.

SMRT Trunk 889

Sembawang Int <--> Bukit Batok Int

https://mapsengine.google.com/map/edit?mid=z5U3OUiwcVD8.kC8-x4Epc3hM

Notes:

Express along Turf Club Rd

A trunk route through industrial area of Sungei Kadut that too for the whole distance extremely unlikely as loading during off peak hours extremely poor.

wsy1234 SG

and also 147

mwhale7886 SG

A trunk route through industrial area of Sungei Kadut that too for the whole distance extremely unlikely as loading during off peak hours extremely poor.

Wouldn't the solution be to only operate it during weekday peak hours?

Operating Hours

*Doesn't operate on Weekends and Public Holidays

Frequency: ~15 minutes

Morning Peak Evening Peak

First Bus 0615 1715

Last Bus 0800 1900

BusAnalayzer SG

Wouldn't the solution be to only operate it during weekday peak hours?

Operating Hours

*Doesn't operate on Weekends and Public Holidays

Frequency: ~15 minutes

Morning Peak Evening Peak

First Bus 0615 1715

Last Bus 0800 1900

Yes that could work. What Sungei Kadut loop, crescent and Mowrab Camp area need most is a direct connection to CCK MRT and connect areas in Yew tee without feeder service. That should be high on LTA priority list.

Vicknaa SG

While the amended 171 is nice, the current service would perform the role of 128 for the dtl as a parallel service in case of breakdwn to orchard/marina while 66 can do same for east sector.

Do some of you actually know the ground you talk about like the fact that teck whye crescent is a 2 lane narrow loop road not designed for public buses while teck whye ave is wider and becomes cck drive. The same thing occurred to me regard debates I saw abt hillview area and DDs at a time when there was still a 4.3m railway bridge that made bendies better for the area. Do not always refer to maps. Walk the ground as well.

BusAnalayzer SG

While the amended 171 is nice, the current service would perform the role of 128 for the dtl as a parallel service in case of breakdwn to orchard/marina while 66 can do same for east sector.

Agreed. Can have 171E - 4 buses to do the full route during AM/PM peak uni-directional. Should suffice. As for sv 128, if you observe, though it complements MRT, you will hardly find more than 40-45 pax on this bus.

Even 162 that runs parallel and covers most Red line MRT - Dhoby Ghaut, Somerset, Orchard, Newton, Novena, Bishan, AMK and YCK has its main high loading coming from Macritchie towards Bishan Road.

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