Route Suggestions (Part 5)

last SG · 2013-12-18T00:11:01+00:00

Suggesting a route extension for 198.VIa Jln Bukit Merah, Cantonment road, Expressway, Fort Road, Mountbatten Road, Amber road, Marine parade road, bedok sou...

Guides anyone? SG

what if, the ultimate solution is the Mass Rapid Transit (MRT)?

coming soon: Thomson MRT Line

interim measure: bus interchange expansions

Even with new MRT Lines, it isn't bad at all to have supplementary routes that complement them.

array88 SG

I would like to suggest svc 229 to ply Bedok South Ave 1 (new bus stop) and New Upper Changi Road on the way back to Bedok Int, skipping a portion of Bedok South Rd.

In this way, it will call at a bus stop outside Bedok MRT before heading towards Chai Chee and back to Bedok Int. This will allow pax who board at Bedok South Ave 3 and Bedok South Rd to transfer to EWL directly here, instead of either alighting at New Upper Changi Road and walking to MRT or wasting time going aroung Chai Chee. Those going to Chai Chee Rd can also have one more service if they choose to take the bus at Bedok MRT bus stop instead of Bedok Int. The two bus stops skipped already have many services to Bedok Int.

Sadly, the route towards Bedok South Ave 3 cannot be amended like this because the bus cannot turn from New Upper Changi Rd to Bedok South Ave 1.

BusAnalayzer SG

Service 102: Hougang Central - Punggol (via Seletar Airport)

Hougang Ctrl Int

Hougang Ctrl

Upp Serangoon Rd

Upp Serangoon Cres (Upp Serangoon View in opposite direction)

Upp Serangoon Rd

Buangkok Dr (New bus stops)

Sengkang Ctrl (Buangkok MRT)

Compassvale Dr

Compassvale Rd

Sengkang East Way (Sengkang MRT)

Sengkang West Way

Fernvale Rd (Fernvale LRT) (New bus stop)

Sengkang West Ave

Sengkang West Rd (New bus stops)

Seletar Aerospace Way (New bus stop)

Oxford St

West Camp Rd

Seletar West Link (New bus stops)

Seletar North Link (New bus stops)

Punggol Way (Nibong and Sumang LRT) (New bus stops)

Punggol Ctrl

Punggol Pl

Punggol Temp Int

- Replace svc 324 (which has disastrous loading anyway); if demand grows, can introduce 102M to ply existing route of 324, so that those along Upp Serangoon Cres/View don't have to walk so much

- Connect Buangkok Dr (which has no service today) to Buangkok MRT, and better utilise Buangkok MRT at the same time

- Connect Sengkang West Way (which only has the terrible svc 85) to Sengkang MRT and Seletar Mall

- Connect Seletar Aerospace Park to Sengkang and Punggol MRT stations (the nearest MRT stations)

- Provide a trunk service for Nibong and Sumang LRT (which has no service today) and flats there under construction

- The sector between Seletar Airport and Punggol seems windy and redundant, so may consider looping at West Camp Rd instead

- If implemented, expect loading on svc 85 to drop even further

Good route... just that I prefer it rather loops @ Seletar hills rather than go West Camp road. And yes it should substitute 324 as you correctly pointed out that has quite bad loading... In fact, it can do Upper Serangoon Crescent in both directions... as the stop along view has no takers... no hdbs around.. and the schools also have stop for 62/136. 85 loading will be affected because of Sengkang West way to Sengkang MRT unlike what dupdup said... but also want to point out.. my observation is people rather prefer to walk to LRT rather than take 85 to alight at Sengkang East road and walk... + the not so good frequency of 85.

BusAnalayzer SG

85 in future will work as a good intra-town in my opinion once west area develops...

array88 SG

Feeder 227: Bedok - Jln Pari Burong (Loop)

Bedok Int

Bedok North Dr

Bedok North Ave 1

New Upper Changi Rd (Bedok MRT)

Bedok North Ave 3

Bedok North St 2 (New bus stops)

Bedok North Rd

New Upper Changi Rd (Tanah Merah MRT)

Bedok Rd

Upper Changi Rd (New bus stops)

Jln Pari Dedap (New bus stop)

Jln Pari Burong (New bus stop)

Upper Changi Rd

Bedok Rd

New Upper Changi Rd (Tanah Merah MRT)

Bedok North Rd

Bedok North St 2 (New bus stops)

Bedok North Ave 3

New Upper Changi Rd (Bedok MRT)

Bedok North Ave 1

Bedok North Dr

Bedok Int

- New bus service for Bedok North St 2, Upper Changi Rd (Anglican High), Jln Pari Dedap and Jln Pari Burong

- Connection to Bedok and Tanah Merah MRT, as well as Bedok Market Place and East Villege

- Alternative for svc 14 (at Tanah Merah), 28, 67, 222 (at Bedok MRT)

BusAnalayzer SG

I would like to suggest svc 229 to ply Bedok South Ave 1 (new bus stop) and New Upper Changi Road on the way back to Bedok Int, skipping a portion of Bedok South Rd.

Sadly, the route towards Bedok South Ave 3 cannot be amended like this because the bus cannot turn from New Upper Changi Rd to Bedok South Ave 1.

I had made this suggestion as well.. 229 is quite long winding especially for Bedok South Ave 3 and latter part of Bedok south road where it is the only service connecting to Bedok MRT.

229 should go directly via Bedok south road instrad of doing Chai Chee... and should have short feeder 224 introduced that does Bedok Interchange >> Upper Changi Rd >> Chai Chee & back to Bedok Interchange in loop fashion with 3 buses.

SMB145B SG

Like what carbikebus said, taking into consideration the cramped interchanges, it is better to make it a loop service.

If loop via avenue 8, I cant seem to find a place for a bus stop near YCK MRT. Any recommendations??

the bus stop could be just after Avenue 6 junction, near to the entrance to the bus terminal

Gohqianyan832 SG

Route Suggestion for Svc 807 (Yishun - Yishun Ave 1)

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zlV7JFPSU_ZU.kcKRf1c4AY_0

array88 SG

Bedok feeders are quite mature and I would say they are quite well designed (except the windy 229). With the help of other feeder-like trunks such as 14, 17, 38, 60, 66, 69 etc, these services are generally doing good enough.
Your design seems good in some ways, but some links are missing (not exactly like 300 saga). There is definitely a need for areas such as Chai Chee and Bedok Reservoir (e.g. sv 228's looping point) to be connected to Bedok where a lot of facilities are. Some feeders proposed are already covered very well by trunks (e.g. 17, 60) and there's no need to break them into separate feeders. And don't expect everyone to walk from Changi Rd to Kembangan MRT or wait for additional 10 minutes to Eunos Int. Some sectors of Bedok North Rd, Bedok North Ave 3 and Chai Chee St also have no service at all (if trunks are not there).

array88 SG

On the other hand, some of the services currently plying Bedok Reservoir Rd (from Eunos Link to Kaki Bukit Ave 1) can be diverted to Kaki Bukit MRT via Jln Damai, Kaki Bukit Ave 1 and Jln Tenaga, to link Kaki Bukit MRT to Bedok Reservoir while still keeping the bus stops along Jln Damai and Jln Tenaga after services there go back to Kaki Bukit Ave 1. Maybe svc 22 can do the job since it already duplicates many services. Svc 228 can also be extended to Kaki Bukit MRT.

DTL3 is also a chance for more services in Ubi and Kaki Bukit to cover the roads that do not have a bus service today (there are quite a lot).

array88 SG

I know this is rather random but just want to have a try...

Service 18: Tampines - Eunos

Tampines Int

Tampines Ctrl 3

Tampines Ave 7

Tampines St 42 (New bus stops)

Tampines Ave 9 (Tampines East MRT)

Tampines Ave 2

Tampines Ave 1 (Tampines West MRT)

Bedok Reservoir Rd

Bedok North Ave 3 (Bedok Reservoir MRT)

Bedok North Rd

Bedok North Ave 2

Bedok North St 1

Bedok North Interchange

Bedok Int (enter interchange in both directions - can also save parking lots)

Bedok North Dr

Bedok North Ave 1

Siglap Rd

Marine Parade Rd (Marine Terrace MRT)

Telok Kurau Rd

East Coast Rd

Joo Chiat Rd

Marine Parade Rd (Marine Parade MRT)

Amber Rd

Haig Rd (New bus stops)

Geylang Rd (Sims Ave, Engku Aman Rd and Geylang Rd in opposite direction)

Paya Lebar Rd (Paya Lebar MRT)

Eunos Ave 5

Eunos Rd 8

Eunos Ave 4 (New bus stops) (Eunos Ave 5, Eunos Rd 5, Eunos Ave 6 in opposite direction) - There are a lot of unidirectional roads here... This route is okay as per Google Maps

Eunos Rd 2

Eunos Int

carbikebus SG

Good route bro i would rather 69 terminate at Eunos rather than 18

JurongWestresident SG

gotta admit, one of the feeder suggestion was actually a past feeder route, which was then merged to become 60. anyway, on a serious note,

for Kakit Bukit, thank goodness 21 and 60 duplicate each other from Eunos MRT all the way to Bedok Reservoir. so, can simply re-route one of them to ply Kakit Bukit Avenue 1 from Jalan Eunos, call at Kakit Bukit MRT Station, then turn to Bedok Reservoir Road via Jalan Tenaga.^ let it be 60. likewise on the return journey. nonetheless, this inevitably means a longer journey to the already-long (because have to go one big loop around the Jalan Ubi first) journey on 60 to Eunos MRT on the return trip, unless we re-route it to use Eunos Crescent and Ave 5 to enter Eunos Bus Interchange.

^the junction of Jalan Eunos and Bedok Reservoir Road (towards Bedok Reservoir Road direction) usually experiences traffic congestions.

Sbs6750E SG

Service 110: Punggol Interchange – Yio Chu Kang Mrt (loop)
Via:
Punggol Pl
Punggol Dr
Edgedale Plains
Punggol Field
Punggol East (express)
Sengkang East Dr
Rivervale Cres (uses 371’s bus stops and at the same time, 1 new pair of bus stops will be constracted near Rivervale Crest Condominium)
Sengkang East Way
Punggol Rd
TPE (express)
Yio Chu Kang Rd
Ang Mo Kio Ave 6 (Yio Chu Kang Mrt)
Ang Mo Kio Ave 8
Ang Mo Kio Ave 5
Ang Mo Kio Ave 6 and back

Why?
Direct connection to Yio Chu Kang MRT from Punggol/Sengkang (faster than 86).
Faster connection from Edgedale Plains to Punggol Town Centre compaired to 386 so 386’s loadings will drop.

BusAnalayzer SG

Why?
Direct connection to Yio Chu Kang MRT from Punggol/Sengkang (faster than 86).
Faster connection from Edgedale Plains to Punggol Town Centre compaired to 386 so 386’s loadings will drop.

Lol .. 386 loading already poor... why want to drop it more :)

Gemsdare SG

Route Suggestion for Svc 807 (Yishun - Yishun Ave 1)

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zlV7JFPSU_ZU.kcKRf1c4AY_0

I like this route.

Mamat 17 SG

Guys i need help in understanding the red light camera, i was at bedok reservoir near the macdonalds, the traffic light turn amber and i quickly apply my brakes but i stop over the stop line, i think my bike was almost half of my bike was over the line. Will anything happen to me ?

carbikebus SG

Nothing happen if no flash..My 750cc bike many time stop over the white line..

Mamat 17 SG

Cos its was 12 plus in the afternoon and very bright and i dont remember seeing flash, i stop then i push back my bike and i look left there was a red light cam

carbikebus SG

Nowadays use tiny dark blue led flash even in brightday light you still can see..

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