SMRT launches Alexander Dennis Enviro 500 MMC

last SG · 2014-05-30T23:42:13+00:00

They will definitely give a bulk of DDs to Sv 190... But SMRT does not have experience with DDs... Why add to the problems of 190... Better to try out on 963...

carbikebus SG

LTA should focus more on SMRTB routes..SBST for now their plan is working perfectly.

LTA should work together with NEA for the trimming/chopping of branches or even trees if they must..

LTA should order more BSEP Enviro 500s and A95s while SMRTB should order another 60-70 units of A24s at a discount rates.If not by 2016 when the population increase again the old problem will erect again..

All feeders/Intratowns and short trunk like 859,860,962,964 should use just A24s and rigid buses

Mid and long haul trunk should use DDs and rigid buses..

svc like 106,188,190,960,969 can deploy all DDs

Maybe ADL can offer SMRTB their new E200MMC with 4.5litre engine for svc like 825 etc

phillipC SG

Worst is how they are managing sv 300 now... spamming so many rigids on a once-upon-a-time full fleet bendy route.

Feeder 300 SMRT Buses simply cannot cope with the load

BusAnalayzer SG

Feeder 300 SMRT Buses simply cannot cope with the load

yes.. and still they spam so many SDs...

that's also the reason I feel sv 300 will be revised... and sv 301 will be introduced to complement loads...

it is one of the "worst" managed feeder services in Singapore.

SBS5010P SG

Problem with 300 is it is the only bus svc towards CCK and it has to serve many blocks hope SBST can introduce another feeder svc/trunk to share the loads with 300..

982E dosent operate full day and 67's frequency is ridiculous. therefore ppl crowd on 300 instead plus SMRT's mental block on only trunks can get DDs and feeders bendies wont help 300 any further

TIB1234T SG

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BusAnalayzer SG

Problem with 300 is it is the only bus svc towards CCK and it has to serve many blocks hope SBST can introduce another feeder svc/trunk to share the loads with 300..

982E dosent operate full day and 67's frequency is ridiculous. therefore ppl crowd on 300 instead plus SMRT's mental block on only trunks can get DDs and feeders bendies wont help 300 any further

yes.. sv 300 will do good with a few DDs... I prefer sv 300 to get some rather than other sv like 61... sv 300 route is also quite long... so ppl who board along ave 2/3/5 can easily go to upper deck. Better than having rigids on this service.

Ofcourse better would be to have bendies.. but if you see it was a full fleet bendy service... and now has 4 SDs.

ButIAmAToilet SG

This may sounds like a pretty unpopular opinion, but I personally prefer services serving major teritary institusions that have either a MRT station nearby, or have its Int nearby to use bendys instead, due to very high loading/unloading within a few stops. Of course, not all services need bendies IMO.

Here are some which I can think of currently.

23 (Tamp Int - TP)

95 (Kent Ridge MRT - NUS)

There are some services that I also considered, but decided against it due to several reasons.

31 (More of a point A - B type of pax, noticable on 31A)

69 (A bit of distance from Bedok - TP)

96 (A bit of distance from Clementi - Kent Ridge Cres)

179 (Way too much buses, and Pioneer bus bay will pobably not be able to support so many bendy)

carbikebus SG

Ofcourse better would be to have bendies.. but if you see it was a full fleet bendy service... and now has 4 SDs.

Previously it was 10 buses with all bendy fleets,After extension add up another 3-4 rigid buses..

carbikebus SG

Info from friend:SMRT testing DDs on 851,854 & 857 routes.I wonder if 851 kena Wldep/Amdep control.

BusAnalayzer SG

Previously it was 10 buses with all bendy fleets,After extension add up another 3-4 rigid buses..

Okay, to your point

sv 300 in 2013: 10 bendy buses

sv 300 in 2014: 8 bendy buses + 5 SDs

Capacity increased by 3 buses, in turn 2 bendy slots degraded to SD.

So how much really was the capacity increased?

When the SD comes, already no space for anyone to board along ave 4. Observed 2-3 times. Same PM peak, SDs can hardly clear off the load.

Do we have to wait for another person to post video until SMRT takes constructive steps? 302/307 still okay (not great).

Now compare this with 240, 241, 243, 291, 334... such a huge world of difference in the way feeders are managed in SBST and SMRT.

SMB42P SG

yes.. and still they spam so many SDs...

that's also the reason I feel sv 300 will be revised... and sv 301 will be introduced to complement loads...

it is one of the "worst" managed feeder services in Singapore.

think 300 will be re-routed once 301 is introduced...it will be anytime soon i guess. 300 loading is super crazy...the queue can go easily up to at least 2 bendy buses worth of pax during peak hour even at 2-3 mins per bus... putting SMB1510Z and SMB1516H (AP slot) in is definitely a wrong move.. TIB549S is still ok since it is only for peak hour, so i take TIB549S only as a supplement...

BusAnalayzer SG

Yes.. I am also sure 301 will be introduced... and 300 route will be modified... 300A/B will also be beneficial.

SMB42P SG

Okay, to your point

sv 300 in 2013: 10 bendy buses

sv 300 in 2014: 8 bendy buses + 5 SDs

Capacity increased by 3 buses, in turn 2 bendy slots degraded to SD.

So how much really was the capacity increased?

When the SD comes, already no space for anyone to board along ave 4. Observed 2-3 times. Same PM peak, SDs can hardly clear off the load.

Do we have to wait for another person to post video until SMRT takes constructive steps? 302/307 still okay (not great).

Now compare this with 240, 241, 243, 291, 334... such a huge world of difference in the way feeders are managed in SBST and SMRT.

you should totally see the queue at CCK INT yesterday at around 810pm. 300 had at least 150 pax queueing, 302 and 307 had at least 100 pax queueing, and both the queue for 302 and 307 actually intersected each other. I saw someone took photo, but not sure if it will be sent in for complaint...

Not sure but eventually for 302, TIB1217T and TIB1117Z cleared the load, while SMB215H and SMB1566M cleared the load for 307...

carbikebus SG

301 or the new trunk should run parallel at certain areas just like what 972 to 190

carbikebus SG

The bendies from 188 & 190 should goes to 300 in return for DDs

TIB999B SG

Not sure but eventually for 302, TIB1217T and TIB1117Z cleared the load, while SMB215H and SMB1566M cleared the load for 307...

is the person who took photo shawn?

phillipC SG

Lta needs to do more to move the load at CCK interchange

carbikebus SG

SMRT areas need more bus service..

Bt Batok still got room for a feeder and a mid haul trunk...Bt Batok to Marsiling might be great.CCK need a trunk svc which ply Keat Hong and loops around Jurong West and a feeder which can compliment svc 300.Bt Panjang can have a trunk svc to Sembawang via Sembawang Rd/Yishun Ave 1 and Yishun MRT.Yishun can have a trunk looping at Admiralty Rd West compliment svc 169,Woodlands just need a short haul trunk that connect most of the feeder/Intratown routes..Sembawang need another feeder.

TIB 585L SG

Sbw need meh? 859 n the A n B just covered almost all of sbw alone. Plus 962,980,882,858 and 167 to cover the rest of sbw. Sbw need trunk to Tampines or pasir ris or bedok and sbw to JE or boon lay bypassing bpj,cck and bukit batok

SMB42P SG

is the person who took photo shawn?

i have no idea..but till now no news of complaints so i guess not..

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