sex discrimination of another kind ?

ha8n SG

like tat

Devil1976 SG

I think it's more like a 'misunderstanding'?

Devil1976 SG

I think this is really sort of like a misconcept too?

If you date back to the time when Woman's Chapter was 1st set up, it was really something back then for the females as most females were definitely biased against back then... And if you're thinking of 'biased' today, nope... It ain't anything much compared to those days... And it has definitely saved alot of women back then...

Talk of Woman's Chapter today... Though I would sometimes have doubts about validity of some of the 'laws' stated within for today's usage.. But it certainly still continue to help many in need... And of course, just like almost any existing legal systems existing... If there're people using it, there're probably bound to be others abusing it...? So... All I can say is a 'balance'...?

bismarck SG

i know this is seriously OT, i know there's another side of this story where a woman is protected by WC(women's charter) but i have a relative where WC was used against him because of the WC's inherent flaws.

bismarck SG

as in....????

sept 2005

Sep this year. my first interviewer knew i had NS liability (she asked so i told her) and when i came down for the interview, she was surprised to hear it was in sept as she thought it would be next year.

right, ok i cant blame her for lack of familarity with NS, though some women i know are damn familar with it Shocked

anyway, i've taken it in stride (though it gets hard to swallow at times) as some of the hurdles i will face in job hunting later on. and this is the real world which my lecturer wanted me to see ? Very Happy

stellazio SG

Stop whining,women are probaly more discriminated against especially when finding jobs,i do agree that secretart posts are mostly for females,but i think you better learn more about the truth out there.You know how freaking hard it is for a female to take medicine at nus?and think about it,in those high posts how many of them are even female??consider ns the price to pay for not being discriminated in the working world.

ShutterBug SG

Not just hidden gender preferences, there are more;

>> we are looking for someone younger/older
>> well, you have the qualifications, but... we need someone more experienced
>> well, you're indeed experienced, but.. you lack certain papers..
>> hmm.. you do have the qualifications, age, and experience.. but we perfer a foreigner
>> oh you have a degree? But i'm sorry we only prefer foreign degrees...

there's a mighty lot of b-u-l-l-s-h-i-t.

Face it, our job market is "deseased"....

Myself, I run my own business. Can't beat them, join em!!

bismarck SG

load of rubbish. i see countless ladies at med fac

stellazio SG

Yea compare it to the number of men,and you know whats the reason why females find it harder to study medicine?Its because they will ask questions such as marriage and whether they will have kids etc,its freaking ex to train a doctor so thats why they don’t wana spend so much on a female doctor who after working for a few years settle down and be a housewife.What do you know go ask those females in the medicine faculty den.

bismarck SG

my sis is 1 and she says odds are equal.
and if a male and female applicant to meds have the same qualifications and all other variables are the same, both get in.

now, stop yr crap

M©+square SG

bis: recieved my PM?

stellazio SG

So sorry just like you do know one person who is taking medicine,i happen to know 3 people.2 of which were male and one female,know why the female got in?cause she said in her interview somethings about not starting a family etc and thats why she felt she got in,cause she did haf some frens applying for it too. Seriously just go count and compare the amount of male and female doctors eh.

lwflee SG

Its only proper that they ask. After all their education is being subsidized, and potential doctors should understand that once they're in, its for the long haul. And its not a difficult qn to answer anyway.

stellazio SG

yep they asked it to both sexes,but why aren't they worried about guys settling down and having a family?becuz guys shouldn't be the housekeepers?now isn;t that discrimination in the highest order already?

stellazio SG

lwflee SG

Voila! See, its not that difficult after all!

littlestream SG

Hee hee... Wink sorry, no offence, just trying to be cheeky..........so do you use these techniques yourself, when hiring?

Perhaps you have a temp job for dear bismarck?

Here in Ontario, we have a summer employment program for students. Perhaps the S'pore government can come up with a program of some sort for male awaiting enlistment? Some kind of temporary job at the various ministries? Just a thought.

Anyways, good luck in your temp job find, bismarck!

lwflee SG

Asking both genders the qn suggests to me that they are not so much concerned with genders, but with non-committed applicants. They are saying that if you want to be subsidized, then you should be prepared to accept sacrifices. In this case, it means you have to put family life on hold. There! Its a pretty open policy!

And how is it gender discrimination if they pose the same qn to both genders?

However, i want to emphasize that to say that it is a transparent and open policy is not to say that i agree with the policy. That is another issue altogether.

stellazio SG

Becuz its the same set of questions which they use to ask everybody?and also becuz they wana make it sound fair.SPeaking truthfully who cares whether a guy settles down and have a family,but apparently its diff for females cuz they lose their investment in them.In other words they are gian lui

lwflee SG

That's your opinion, and it remains an assertion. You allege that the slection process is discriminatory to women. Prove it.

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