Please give me some good advise!

last SG · 2003-04-26T17:13:27+00:00

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iori8888 SG

Dan, Greg, me were good friends.
Dan is good looking. Greg has ways with girls. Joyce is the same school as Dan. She is so adorable that almost everyone sees her, like her.
Alan is Dan's cousin. He is quite a bastard from my point of view.
Dan's dad is a Big time gangster, so big that "zhongs" have to give him face. I used to respect him, but now....

Dan found Joyce, and like her. Joyce had a boyfriend but had breakup. Then they had sex but they were never boyfriend and girlfriends. Dan then introduces Joyce to Greg and I. After a while Joyce patch back with her boyfriend and didn't contact us anymore.

Months later, when Greg was at home, he call Dan over to his house and happen to talk about Joyce. Then they invite Joyce over to Greg's house. When Dan's sleeping, Greg and Joyce fell in love or something. Then they did something close to sex. Dan didn't know.

The next few days Greg and Joyce have been meeting each others and they had sex. Greg wants to tell Dan about it but did not know how.

One day, when Greg, Dan, and Alan went to Ktv. Greg asked Dan, do you like Joyce?
Dan: ai ya, now got no girl to fark, try to get lar."
Greg: So have you got her?
Dan: Hard to get lor.
Greg: You know why? Cause you lousy!
Dan: You try lar!
Greg: If I get how?
Dan: You can get you get lor.
Greg: You say one ar.
Dan: YA!
Greg: Okay I fark her already.
Dan: Ya right.
Greg: She even gam my lanjiao all this already.
Dan remained silent and nods his head. He decided not to pursue this matter but this conversation was over heard by overheard Alan.

iori8888 SG

Alan went to tell Dan's dad and Dan's dad went to ask Dan, is it true that Greg stole Joyce from you. Dan was shocked that his dad knows about this.

Dan's dad and Alan keeps bringing it up and it seems to be affecting Dan. Influenced by their words Dan begin to feel angry, sad and as if Greg really stole Joyce from Dan. Dan's dad then asked Dan to call Joyce to over to their house.Then Dan's dad said that he want to talk to Joyce in private and they did.

The next day, Joyce called Greg and said: You go and tell around to everyone that you fark me all this already is it? Greg explained to Joyce that all he wants is just to let Dan know and he admitted that the way he put it is wrong but he only told Dan. Alan is the one who overheard and goes around telling.

That night, I went to meet both of them. At that time I know nothing, but I know something was going on. We all went to Dans house. I manage to dig out everything from Joyce and I felt sad hearing from her. Joyce cried to me and said: I feel like a biatch Greg and Dan 13years friendship I spoil it all and now I even got something to do with Dan's dad I really dont want! I really dont want all this things to happen one. She told me that Dan's dad wanted to teach Greg a lesson but Dan and Joyce stopped him. She also told me that Dan's dad says that Greg is spoiling her reputation by telling everyone; if he loves you he should care about that. I asked her what happened and what did Dan's dad do to you but she refused to tell me.

The next day, Dan's dad ask Joyce to go to their house for drinking but Joyce seems afraid so I followed her till morning, then I left for tuition. After I finished my tuition, I call her and she told me that the moment I left, his dad asked her to the room. I felt bad so I apologies, but she said: If got thing happen also happened already lor. From my point of view is that nothing happen that day but something had already happened. I suspect that Dan's dad fark Joyce by using his power and threatened to beat up Greg if she doesnt.

Master -_- SG

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iori8888 SG

Now all Joyce is asking just Greg & Dan back together. I think that shes the most painful in the game. But that will not happen because Greg & Dan is trying to get her. She didnt intent to get attached after all this things had happen. She just wants to remain as friends and forget about the sad things.

I dont know how to help her too. She doesnt tell me maybe because its a shameful thing to a girl. And even if I want to help, that have to be revealed and it sure will make her feel sad.

Even she tells me and allows me to do something, there's another problem. Dan's mother had passed away, now his dad is his only kin. Dan knows nothing about this and he always thinks his dad as a great one. He and his dad's relationship will be broken.

Alan said that Gregs the one spoiling her reputation but what I feel is that Alan is the one who is spreading it around.

Yunhaier SG

Too many A, B, C, D, E... I can't read properly. Please just false name to make things clearer. Rolling Eyes

MagicOne SG

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I lost in your maze of words, can simple the whole thing down. So we can help you Surprised

De|usi0n SG

let yunhaier do the job….too comfusing..and pls simplify

De|usi0n SG

and you nebere state what advice u need

iori8888 SG

Fake names up. Sorry I don’t know how to simply it.

iori8888 SG

She’s stuck and I want to help her. But it seems that there are too many obstacles.

De|usi0n SG

dammit, i read 3 times u know....but i try to conclude loh...may got the pple mixed up..dont blame me.

you are saying that Dan, Gred and Den's dad had sex with Joyce right, but oni Dan and Grad case is comfirm. For Dan's dad case, it can be considered as a rape case. And it was not right of Dan to spread the new that he had sex with Joyce b4.

If a ger wanted to haf a nite with a person, if does not means that she is cheap, it does not means that she like you either. Dan is in the wrong here. And he even challanged Grad to do the same, cause he felt that Joyce is a loose ger, and wil had sex with almost every guy.

i hope i get these facts right.

i think wat u want to know now is how to console Joyce izzit? Or how u want to face all of them?

Something is certain, the friendship will not be the same anymore. Not that Joyce spoilt it, but Dan asked for it. HIs dad is the rapist, soli if i had to label this way, but he is the freaking rapist. Ask Joyce to report him and had him jailed. Ans Joyce to forget anout Den and Grad, dont care who is right or wrong. Ask her to lead her own life.

Joyce is the poor ger here, as wat i can see, but i hope u haf the ability to bring her out of this sh^it. ( not asking u to haf sex with her )

iori8888 SG

Something like that.
If I report his dad, what about Dan? His mom passed away and his dad is now his only kin. What will he think? My own father did terrible things to my love ones.
What about joyce? Known as having sex with a uncle or a father and son?
I ever thought of telling her to forget everyone and just leave the group. I discussed it with greg but I missed out something. She's same poly, same class as Dan and doing project together.
By the way Alan, Dan's cousin is the one who is spreading the news.

De|usi0n SG

well, single parent does not give the father to commit a crime and get away with it. if his dad ever goes to jail, the pple inside will sure screw his ass, all the pple, including hardcore murderer, dont like rapist. cause they pray upon the helpless.best is ask Joyce to break the news to Dan, to say if his dad did haf sex with her. if she want to keep it to herself, no one can help her.

as Joyce is doing the same project with Gred, that is something cannot be changed...but it wont last forever...i do feel that Gred is a better person than Dan. She can try to act as if nothing had happen, all as friends, Dan's dad gain a free fcuk, or just tell the truth out.

I would rather her to ignore Dan, and Gred, except for project time. the rest just stay away from them. or let gred decide that if Dan doings is correct anot...if he treasure frendship more than justice on Joyce, than too bad. Joyce, either way, will be hurt.

1 is to keep all to herself

2 is to tell it all out.

both way hurts her., let her decide..

boy in blues SG

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iori8888 SG

One more thing, we are all afraid of his dad. He is respected because at his time because of his excellent in fighting. He’s good because he learn “W…...”. I’m not going to mention what he learnt because it will spoil the art school’s name. The point here is he know all the big gangster all over the place. If we offend him, we will be chopped!

De|usi0n SG

Joyce had to live for herself, not for thr friendship of Dan and Gred, not for the r/s of Dan and his dad. 10 years down the road, all these will not seem so important, all might forget her as well, so y bother to consider about them, when she is not the one who do the wrong thing.

Joyce is confused, open her up, let her see new light, support her if u need to, encourage her, and keep her away from Dan's dad again...cause i got a feeling that his dad wil ask her for sex again, if he did had sex with her b4. A MUST, let dan know about his Dad, he has the right to know.

De|usi0n SG

i donno wat u toking...but although the police in singapore is useless, but is enough to put him behind bar...the fact pls..DID HIS DAD RAPE JOYCE?

no? than no need to do anything liao.

YES? throw the bastard to jail.

ask Joyce for the truth

iori8888 SG

I hinted to him before. But hes like you worry what? Hes with my father. Then I said I only trust my friends. Then he said dont be ridiculous lar, adults are more sensible than us. Then I said if anything happen to her when you are around I first one come and find you. Then he thought I like her. He said you her who? Guardian huh?

Something important here. I do not know what Joyce and his dad do together because she refuses to tell me. These are only what I presume. I cant do anything unless she really tells me.

We have no prove too. In the Law, if you are raped, you are not suppose to change and bath. That will remove the evidence. And if its a threaten, and she did not resist at that time, we will have no case.

Seems like a die die situration.
By the way IF it's time to end this, how to delete this forum?

SunRisE SG

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this story very very confusing leh.. i almost cant understand what you writing.. becos some names i guess you yourself also mixed up.. Like one sentence "Dan and joyce try to stop Dan"?? huh?? you mean try to stop Dan's father right?? If i'm not wrong.. Next time use paragraphing easier for us to read.. Mr. Green

I think delusion oso got the name mixed up.. hahaa Is dan and joyce same class doing same project.. Not greg... I guess after all reading your post.. the nerves in the brain all tangle up liao..

ANyway i reply you tmr.. cos now too late liao... okok?? and as for the post.. only moderator can del or close the topic.. Don't worry ok?? Wink

iori8888 SG

Okay corrected that part. Still got what should change tell me.
I really mix up a little bit cause i change all the A,G,D,DD to fake names then cork up. 1 real name actually leak out.