If all the members during the christmas party is true, and if
all money gather from the members contribute only and only to the
General and Building Funds ( I believe there is a further tilthe
and donations funds + donations to charity which was not included),
then on average each person actually contributed $120 per month.
From the statistic, only 53% are salaried members. Thus one can
expect that this portion of people had to contribute much more
money to counter the additonal young children and old folks. Pardon
me for saying, tat is nearly about 10% of the total income they
earn.
53% means? salaried members which I believed his toking about
full time working adulted if you read the entire passage. He is
catarising that that way. I'm wonderign why is this still a
argueable subject. Unless the person is trying simply to twist and
pick on the language. 10 % hmmm. Christians around the world
recognised the understanding of the word in giving tithe it is not
only in chc( giving of 10% of what ur gross earning). But is a
practiced adopted by ALL Christians, Catolics and Judalism. WHereas
muslim give 3%. But most other churchs only around 10-30% of the
members practices that but that doesn't mean the bible doesn't have
it. Many ppl like to use this subject to debate but Let's that a
look. If you think chc building itself is grand yea that becoz its
grand in a different piloshophycal region like asia. If you look at
other countries esp western countries, these would never had
happened. Churches are one of the grandest buildings in the world.
It is one of the riches architecture in the ancient world and
represents changes in trends for many centuries. For instance the
dome shape architecture. But why issit so different between western
countries and middle east compared to asian ( excluding korea and
japan)? Is the biblical teaching different? Simply not. Or the bias
and perjudice of the people? More likely is the thinking of ppl.
Beside the tithe which is coincide with the word. THe building
funds are encouraged but not compulsory or anyhow? ( you may still
say its peer pressure, pls lah if you think its not right in giving
money away, you think just by peer pressure you would doing it?)
Whereas the cds. Just by peer presure??? Well I think I had never
seen anyone in chc doing that buying 10s of cds for her out of peer
pressure simply becoz there isn't so many ppl willing to do that.
No peer where got pressure? You seen it? why not report it? If you
managed to find them that an entire cg buying 10s of cds, then I
believe you? I'll willing to put my life on it tok is cheap.
Especailly in 3 album striaght. I did bought something for my fren
but its a chinese bible for my chinese frens. But hmmm??? a cd with
secular songs? is the evangelistic value there? Perhaps you should
show me the figures where most chc member buys the cd. (Stop
argueing why it is possible etc etc and all the assumption in the
world. Find me prove, evidence and ppl who does that!)
This is question 1
Question 2.
I am saying before she start to cut album. Why does everyone
seems to avoid trying to comment her behavior before the first
album ?
Hmm what you wan to know??? She is like tat lah? Does it make a
different? WHy you guys like to ask something that is totally
irrelevant???
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/archives/00002017.html
In the end somone (secret secret) pay $33,372.06 for public apology
fees. I don't know wat u guys did to him at tat time though... (was
it suing ?)
??? I was refering to this. ???? Secretly? Ur intel issn't good
enuff sia. His cg helps to raise the money for him one( its no
secret lor everyone in chc noes it), alot of ppl does noe. if you
read the website. I think u should understand the church has
nothing to do with him apologising lor by reading the website. I
think u guys think too much conspiracy liao. He said he leave the
church and never returned. If that's the case why don't he report
police he got threatened? WHy issit another church pastor advised
him to apologies etc etc. And since you believed so much why don't
you report police and dismantle the church??? Don't tell me ur
can't etc etc , its none of your biz. Do you noe you can sue the
church as cult church or what etc etc. Read the case on the person
who sued CCC as a cult church. THey won. You can do it one. Trying
doing it if you got such solid prove. ANd relax the church wun sue
u in return one.
Third question
You all had yet to ans me with all the figures on who issit
possible for her to be top one with her church alone as
support.
You mentioned averagely one person pay 10% which is $120 each cd
$20 which is aroud 6 and 6 x 13000 (not 17000 coz tat easter svc
alone many new comers are here, the regular core member attendance
is only around 12000++ let's say 13000 x 6. only 78000 cds. Hmm
still not enuff leh. Perhaps tat's only enuff for Singapore but how
about asia? Taiwan? hmmm. Care to enlighten me? And somemore this
is the 'IDEAL' situation. But in true fact u think everyone pays
10% of their gross pay in addtion to 10% of tithe for 10 cds to be
given away? Who is the pastor to them? Further more only 90% of the
members tithe faithfully? IS she above God???
Questions four
About the wedev ask about what cgl and your gf??? Firstly I don't
understand what it is secondly Its not I quote one. WHy ask
me?
To big bird
Lets assume she really did put in all her profit into charity since
u guys believe in it so much.
First, why don't u people donate the money to the charity directly
then ? Does the record companies throw in their profit for charity
? I don't think so and they r the ones that earned the biggest
profit. Charity will get more if u donate directly isn't it ? For
$100 profit from CD, $80 or more go to record comapnies, admin and
managerial staff, song writers, lyrics fillers, music players and
producer. If u guys r so kind and buy the CD just for charity, I
think u should start reflecting on your own action and start
thinking whether r u being economical on tis.
People r after different things. Some go for money, some go for
power, some go for fame. And she don't need any much money in the
first place since she is living rather comfortably now. I have
asked tis question before. Wat cars r the 2 driving now ? Wat r the
size of their house ? Can anyone answer me on tat ?
And regarding to issue about whether will normal people donate the
money from their work to charity. My answer is no. However I find
those stars tat worked hard and use their own hands to carve out a
niche themselves r more admirable than someone tat made use of her
special status and religion to fulfil some ambitions of hers. I
like a star more for being frank into telling people he spent the
money on buying a big white elephant then one tat claims she put
all her earnings into charity. Whether she really put it inside
charity doesn't matter. The mere fact tat she publicises tis
statement is bad enough. To me tat is nothing more than a publicity
stunt. Tis is especially so when she was too overrated and act like
a goody goody two shoes.
So u wanna repeat sending tat same reply again ?
Firstly about this its not really about the money issue. It is
important but it is secondly. It's about her evangelistic concert.
Hmmm already there are many ppl saved while her husband preach in
her concert in many countries like hong kong and taiwan. Try
evagelising and preach openly in china and see if its possible with
the prosecution. Now try with her singing. THe chinese government
is more welcome that she enter into the china world thru singing.
Explain if you can denial the effect of that. Maybe you would argue
why should she mix both singing and Christianity together? But why
not? Who forbided it? the bible or the law? And to your questions
why she publised tat, actually she didn't, neither the record
company. But its her husband and only to the church. so let's get
the facts right before slandering.
Gtg busy now post again next time.
