Predict Next Set of Bus Service Improvements

last SG · 2013-01-09T09:49:38+00:00

Capacity increase with DDs:svc 242 (2 DDs, 4 SDs) +1 242 only had 1 DD.

SBS2656X SG

I don't understand why SBST refrains from full fleet DDs for some routes. Apart from s65, s98, s179 and JIS services, there are many other bus services that deserve full fleet DDs.

s23, s25, s72, s87, s88, s99, s161, s168, s241

For most of these services, there is just 1 SD that makes it short of full fleet DD. The route has high loading, so why deploy that 1 or 2 SDs? Advertisements can't be a justification as many of the SDs on these services don't even have ads. There is something more to it.

Umm, SBS2709C has an ad.. But it cameoed on 325 today.

And whenever TPE got something crop up, random SDs, especially KUBs from 27 will be pulled over to do 161.

carbikebus SG

Mostly of the svc with a couple of SDs got other svc run parallel towards certain places

BusAnalayzer SG

Umm, SBS2709C has an ad.. But it cameoed on 325 today.

And whenever TPE got something crop up, random SDs, especially KUBs from 27 will be pulled over to do 161.

s23, s25, s72, s87, s88, s99, s161, s168, s241 should be full fleet DDs. The SDs should be transferred to svc like 13, 153 and their DDs should be pulled on to these services - makes much more sense.

BusAnalayzer SG

s74 is another service that should get capacity addition. SBST has not done anything for this svc in 2012, but I am surprised that even through BSEP it didn't get fleet add or capacity increase.

SBS2601D SG

Taking 74 can be a very frustrating experience.

They are still throwing Citaro and KUB and Striders to this service, which really knows no peak hours.

The only saving grace is its ok frequency, though nowhere as good as the 1990s and early 2000s where the buses used to come one after another and 74 had full DD fleet (PAC).

BusAnalayzer SG

Taking 74 can be a very frustrating experience.

They are still throwing Citaro and KUB and Striders to this service, which really knows no peak hours.

The only saving grace is its ok frequency, though nowhere as good as the 1990s and early 2000s where the buses used to come one after another and 74 had full DD fleet (PAC).

The question is WHY. SBS has been really good in increasing capacity of buses in last few months. They have had multiple higher capacity increase for many services - s5, s43, s52, s55, s72, s76, s86, s88, s90, s94, s98, s109, s157, s163, s174, s225, s334.

I really wonder why s74 is completely singled out, especially considering that it is a cashcow for SBST.

SBST163 SG

I really wonder why s74 is completely singled out, especially considering that it is a cashcow for SBST.

Maybe 74 is already maximised in the number of buses they can give and also the frequency. Just like the case of 190 that they can't really do anything about it?

carbikebus SG

Probably the majority of 74 earnings only through school and school fares still low behind adult fares?

phillipC SG

Very obvious school fare not attractive.

SBS2601D SG

Much of 74's pax comes also from SIM, SP, NP, AMK, HG area.

In fact the whole route less the one near buona vista is nearly full-house even for DD, much less SD, for most of the day and night.

But quite frankly, 74 is still ok. At least if the SD skips stops, usually a DD comes within 10 min.

The one that's NOT ok is 72. 15-20 min night frequency when so many people take this service from YCK, HG, Tamp is not ok. And not to mention the horrifically slow driving. Especially off-peak timing. It makes a journey from Tamp to HG at a leisurely 45min at times when car takes only 15min! A ride to Pasir Ris by train, followed by a switch to 88 takes 35min only by contrast.

SBS7491X SG

I don't understand why SBST refrains from full fleet DDs for some routes. Apart from s65, s98, s179 and JIS services, there are many other bus services that deserve full fleet DDs.

s23, s25, s72, s87, s88, s99, s161, s168, s241

Svc 88 really either needs full DD or a revised schedule. SBS 5135M (BRBP 88) will arrive around 7AM at Buangkok Green with the bus already full and more passengers trying to cram into the bus. Most bus arrival apps don't list down the SWT services so they don't know that 88A is otw. When the fully packed bus leaves, less than 2 minutes later, a random DD for svc 88A arrives. Empty. Should trial bendy again and put on svcs 72, 74, 161, 168, etc. But that's just my 2 cents. 88 is possible for full DD as it only has 3 SDs but it also constantly gets KUB cameos.

SBS7491X SG

I also noticed that new perm wrights for svc 88 come in batches of 3. First batch of perms: (SBS 3184J, SBS 3187B & SBS 3196A) Second batch of perms: (SBS 3201T, SBS 3208A & SBS 3210S) and the most recent batch of perms: (SBS 3179A, SBS 3186D & SBS 3229P). 88's CDGE's rear EDS not working since last year. Many CDGEs with door problem (either too violent or one open already then like 3 seconds later the other opens), some got no doors closing alarm. And they've replaced the rare VSO with a wright. What is SBST doing??

carbikebus SG

Much of 74's pax comes also from SIM, SP, NP, AMK, HG area.

In fact the whole route less the one near buona vista is nearly full-house even for DD, much less SD, for most of the day and night.

But quite frankly, 74 is still ok. At least if the SD skips stops, usually a DD comes within 10 min.

Speaking of 72,A friend of mine driving last bus towards yck got creepy experience along old Tampines bus stop cause when he open the entrance door no one board when before that he did saw a woman flag his bus

BusAnalayzer SG

Much of 74's pax comes also from SIM, SP, NP, AMK, HG area.

In fact the whole route less the one near buona vista is nearly full-house even for DD, much less SD, for most of the day and night.

But quite frankly, 74 is still ok. At least if the SD skips stops, usually a DD comes within 10 min.

72 has got 5 bus fleet add in Jan, and 72A, 72B - so at least on YCK, HG side the frequency is very good. In peak hours, there is a bus every 05-07 mins. I am not sure about Tampines side, but with the new fleet add, I think it should be fine. If I am not wrong, all the 5 additions are DDs.

BusAnalayzer SG

No wonder all BCs stop at empty stops along Tampines road

BusAnalayzer SG

I have observed the same with 98A also. When I was at Lakeside, I observed two 98As that came in within 2 mins of s98 had left the stop. Moreover, train towards Joon Koon had just arrived. The BC came, so just 2 pax at the stop, took them on board and left. A minute later, when people came down from MRT, there were atleast 50-60 pax waiting for the next bus. When checked through sms, next bus was after 11 mins, 18 mins. So the next 98 that came, had load of 2-3 MRTs to take and would be PACKED while the 98A BC just left with a Wright with 2 pax on board.

BusAnalayzer SG

No need for bendy. Making these services full fleet DD will do the job.

carbikebus SG

If 72 can use bendy with ease then might as well exchange yck with Bukit batok

bus555 SG

If 72 can use bendy with ease then might as well exchange yck with Bukit batok

BusAnalayzer SG

If 72 can use bendy with ease then might as well exchange yck with Bukit batok

What about s13, s70, s162? The YCK terminal is so small. Do you think bendies can park?

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