SBS Transit King Long single deck demonstrator

last SG · 2012-05-25T20:37:41+00:00

You must be speaking in defence for your dear home country.

sbst275 SG

With the BSEP thingy, buses will get less crowded..

I thought they say they want to bring in more hybrid buses?

not necessary that w/ BSEP crowded svs will be less crowded... It all depends on the actual load (incl the amt of backlog) and capacity of the additional bus... What u said is basically in theory...

vicamour SG

With the BSEP thingy, buses will get less crowded..

I thought they say they want to bring in more hybrid buses?

Hybrid buses are difficult and costly to maintain at the moment.

Unless you want to help the bus operators to foot the expensive maintanace bills every month.

Gus.chong SG

MAN's aircon strong only, but the wheelchair area sucks. Why? The foldable seats is a little big. It alr defeat the purpose of having that. PIW can't really sit back in comfort. Should have followed Citaro's sizes(SMRT).

If SBS Transit is going to introduce the MAN A22, there isn't a need for the foldable seats. They can just exclude the foldable seats from the design of the interior.

TIB868X SG

This King Long has broken down or/and encountered problems like everytime its driven. It can't even seem to adjust its suspension as a wheelchair-accessible low floor bus. This bus does not deserve to be here, I'll take more KUBs over this. As with the Yutong, Chinese buses will require lots of effort (and money) in maintenance. And how often is SBS8000Z and SBS8001X on service? rarely nowadays.

SBS 3010C SG

Bus driver controls the suspension or the bus itself?

TIB868X SG

Bus driver controls the suspension or the bus itself?

The bus couldn't raise its supension at all when it tried to enter a petrol station near my home.... as a result its rear floored the road... so neither, perhaps it can't be raised at all

buses[IN]gapore! SG

Bus driver controls the suspension or the bus itself?

In theory, this is a modern citybus, and i'm sure King Long has configured it with air suspensions, and the suspension/raisers that can be adjusted both by the driver and the bus itself. Probably when it first arrived, the settings were not configured properly or the driver's not familiar. Tons of possiblities.......

Like it or not, the vehicle will be trialled, it's mentioned in the PDF in my earlier post.

sbst275 SG

Agree, MAN A22 is very good compared to Citaro or KUBs..

I don't think SBST will buy MAN A22. They like to buy same boring buses.

Fleet standardisation is equally as important... I forsee SMRT going to have lots of maintnance issue.. MAN just added more to the chapalang fleet nonsense... Tibs & SMRT like to bring us back to the Chinese Bus Co colourful fleet yet CMI fleet maintnance memories right??? nvm... your kids no feeling to all these...

TIB868X SG

I'll assume the air suspension is at least controllable from the dashboard... if so the bus would not be needed to be raised manually by technicians. The setting to input air into the suspension is always there, it does not need to be configured except in the case of the MAN A22s, which is 'automatic' like the VSOs, but at least its high enough to clear most humps and radiants.

sbst275 SG

But they choose to get more Mercedes Benz and Volvo buses instead.
SMRT is the one who first brought in the Zhongtongs and Yutongs anyway.

Many people complain about the layout of full low floor buses, be it Citaro or MAN. But at least Citaro is not jerky compared to MAN. MAN bus is very jerky when stopping.

If LTA wants full low floor buses and yet wants to accomodate more people, then get more double decker buses. Single decker full low floor buses are not able cater the increasing needs in future.

LTA's VTL staff stated they never made it official that they banned LE SD buses...

buses[IN]gapore! SG

It can't even seem to adjust its suspension as a wheelchair-accessible low floor bus. - so how did it clear the slope and drive out?

SBS 6078 M SG

It can't even seem to adjust its suspension as a wheelchair-accessible low floor bus. - so how did it clear the slope and drive out?

Just spam the accelerator

TIB868X SG

It can't even seem to adjust its suspension as a wheelchair-accessible low floor bus. - so how did it clear the slope and drive out?

Driver raised the bus with some tools. Suspension lowered after exiting the petrol station and then drove away in limp mode thereafter, strictly limited to 10km/h.

buses[IN]gapore! SG

Driver raised the bus with some tools. Suspension re-lowered and then drove away in limp mode thereafter, strictly limited to 10km/h.

The bus couldn't raise its supension at all when it tried to enter a petrol station near my home.... as a result its rear floored the road... so neither, perhaps it can't be raised at all

'so neither, perhaps it can't be raised at all' - so was the raiser activated? and it was done at the exterior of the bus/under the bus? given you mentioned it's suspensions.

buses[IN]gapore! SG

Just spam the accelerator

The rear of the vehicle would have been damaged.

SBS 6078 M SG

The rear of the vehicle would have been damaged.

Good then. This bus is useless. Everytime kena problem when on the roads.

Another possibility is it got raised up by a vehicle like crane(but there isnt any) or a tool like wat TIB868X said.

TIB868X SG

The rear of the vehicle would have been damaged.

yes, the technician had to go under the bus/axle and raise it. if there was a raiser, the technician would have used it, no?

anyway the rear (at least the underneath of the rear) was already damaged.

In chronological order:

buses[IN]gapore! SG

Good then. This bus is useless. Everytime kena problem when on the roads.

Another possibility is it got raised up by a vehicle like crane(but there isnt any) or a tool like wat TIB868X said.

Still, it'll be entering service someday - useless or not. It's the company who will be operating the vehicle, not us. We only see from the surface, and we have no info of what is causing the supposed "breakdowns". It's at most all guesswork based on all the stuffs shown and nobody is right or wrong.

SBS 6078 M SG

sigh... hope this vehicle would just be a perm TRG or a museum bus, cuz it breakdown everytime. museum bus is the best. cuz when the drivers are doing TRG, breakdown everytime pek cek for them

even they decide to really enter service, i bet it would only be 1 stupid cameo

buses[IN]gapore! SG

yes, the technician had to go under the bus/axle and raise it. if there was a raiser, the technician would have used it, no?

anyway the rear (at least the underneath of the rear) was already damaged.

In chronological order:

I've mentioned this to SBS6078M - It's at most all guesswork based on all the stuffs shown, and we don't have any further info other than from the sources on King Long website. Maybe there's a raiser system but it's not fixed up yet? We don't know.

As mentioned, in theory this is a modern citybus and i'm sure King Long's R&D department, to make sure their products stay in the competitive market would have equipped the vehicle with the features found on most modern citybuses of this era.

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