Daimler delivers the largest Asian Citaro order to date

last SG · 2011-04-22T11:49:26+00:00

which bus depot will get them first? 6xxx humm recycle number from old bus? Leyland old DD and victory old licence plate? last time this licence under AMK Ju...

sbst275 SG

If u give me a saab, volvo or mercedes, I will choose to drive a merc of any class.... but that's for passenger car.

A 17 years old LO3x is more comfortable than a KUB batch 1 when I took it from BNL to orchard on 174. That KUB vibrated all the way throughout. No choice what you pay is what you get........

I'll always tell bus nutters tis

As if engine dun have vibration like tat. I sit on the OC rear I also feel vibration

I'll always say tis... SMRT can buy Citaro but maintenance cmi esp the bendies. In no time Citaro became horrible too.

sbst275 SG

As if I take LO3x I dun feel vibration at all like tat

lemon1974 SG

As if I take LO3x I dun feel vibration at all like tat

DDs are more much more heavier... but if sit at lower deck, can still feel vibrations.

Bus Stopping SG

I'll always tell bus nutters tis

As if engine dun have vibration like tat. I sit on the OC rear I also feel vibration

I'll always say tis... SMRT can buy Citaro but maintenance cmi esp the bendies. In no time Citaro became horrible too.

Try this, take a KUB, any one of it, whatever batch u like. When the bus stops at a traffic light, or a bus stop, lean with your head against the window and feel the vibration. Now, after you have done that, try it on a Citaro.

It's not the price of the bus, not the age of the bus, but its tiny details like this that makes a passenger more comfortable and less pissed-off when you take a 1 hour journey to and fro every day.

Not to mention, the KUB's radiator is so annoyingly loud that it makes people have to talk louder when making a phone call in the bus.

i believe small details like this, will make people's daily commute much more bearable and comfortable.

service_238 SG

Re: SBST vs SMRT Citaro

Its like your wife gives birth to a pair of identical twins, and both are seperated at birth to two distinct families. How each twin turns out to be when he/she grows up depends on the adopted parents' upbringing of the child.

Re: SBST buying bus at a cheap price

As i've said before if they buy a more expensive option/bus model, who is going to pay for the excess? Its us the commuters in the long run. And if buying the more expensive option will dilute/decrease shareholder's wealth, do you think they will go ahead with it?

sbst275 SG

It's not the price of the bus, not the age of the bus, but its tiny details like this that makes a passenger more comfortable and less pissed-off when you take a 1 hour journey to and fro every day.

Not to mention, the KUB's radiator is so annoyingly loud that it makes people have to talk louder when making a phone call in the bus.

i believe small details like this, will make people's daily commute much more bearable and comfortable.

Go refer to how much SBS got the Citaro.

Yucks. Who is going to lean on the window for long? Yucks w/ the oily stain. Seriously even if 1 were to rest on a car, no one is going to lean on the window.

You buy a bus you're going to use it for 17 years. You dun maintain it like wat's going on to the bendies right now (rattle like a manual transmission as it halts). For this case those sitting at the rear row would know wat it feels like. Front carriage can't feel a thing.

lemon1974 SG

Re: SBST vs SMRT Citaro

Re: SBST buying bus at a cheap price

so anyone feel that SBST O405 is better than SMRT O405? or the other way round?

as for the price wise, price of buses is one issue. maintainence cost is another big issue....

sbst275 SG

so anyone feel that SBST O405 is better than SMRT O405? or the other way round?

as for the price wise, price of buses is one issue. maintainence cost is another big issue....

The O405... 1 is locally assembled, 1 being CBU..

Now tis time round both are CBU

lemon1974 SG

Go refer to how much SBS got the Citaro.

Yucks. Who is going to lean on the window for long? Yucks w/ the oily stain. Seriously even if 1 were to rest on a car, no one is going to lean on the window.

SMRT would rather use their maintainence crews for servicing other vehicles (from private companies or SPF/SCDF etc) which can generate more revenues.... look at AMDEP/WLDEP, there are so many heavy vehicles in it....thus less priority on servicing on own buses.....

lemon1974 SG

The O405... 1 is locally assembled, 1 being CBU..

Now tis time round both are CBU

engine still same mah......

sbst275 SG

engine still same mah......

But bodyworks diff a lot le.

Come to think of it, the O405 & MKIII diff a lot in terms of bodywork quality.

lemon1974 SG

But bodyworks diff a lot le.

Come to think of it, the O405 & MKIII diff a lot in terms of bodywork quality.

maintainence wise more of engine mah...

dun like MK3 bodywork though.. haha.

Bus Stopping SG

Go refer to how much SBS got the Citaro.

Yucks. Who is going to lean on the window for long? Yucks w/ the oily stain. Seriously even if 1 were to rest on a car, no one is going to lean on the window.

No one is asking you to lean on the window for long, do it as an experiment. Windows are the best way to test if there's any vibration.

you seem to be very focused with the purchase price of the vehicle. What about maintenance costs? and Fuel consumption with the cost of fuel? im sure u know what is operational costs.

Maintenance is up to the operating company to decide on, but if the bus is already having vibration due to its design at the start of its life, who is going to care how is its condition 10 years later?

And finally, i am sure i wrote in a very polite manner. but your tone in the post seems to imply much hate, and pride.

SBS2601D SG

It's not the price of the bus, not the age of the bus, but its tiny details like this that makes a passenger more comfortable and less pissed-off when you take a 1 hour journey to and fro every day.

Not to mention, the KUB's radiator is so annoyingly loud that it makes people have to talk louder when making a phone call in the bus.

i believe small details like this, will make people's daily commute much more bearable and comfortable.

This argument won't cut any ice with me.

You know why?

Its just a friggin bus.

Get over it.

And the KUB is comfortable.

You just have to lower your expectations.

I take 3 hours of bus rides each day, 3/4 of the time on KUBs and have adjusted well to it and found its plus points good enough.

And why in the world do you want to lean your head against the window for??? Its little details LIKE THIS (the oily stains) that PISS ME OFF to no end. Just imagine having to stare out of oil-smudged window for 3hrs.

Bottomline: There's 1100 KUBs, you cannot escape la. And do your part in being considerate to other commuters. That's more useful!

SBS2601D SG

No one is asking you to lean on the window for long, do it as an experiment. Windows are the best way to test if there's any vibration.

you seem to be very focused with the purchase price of the vehicle. What about maintenance costs? and Fuel consumption with the cost of fuel? im sure u know what is operational costs.

And finally, i am sure i wrote in a very polite manner. but your tone in the post seems to imply much hate, and pride.

I don't get any hint of rudeness there.....I am very rude in other words.

Highlighted in red: You are not doing justice to those who have worked to improve the K230UB...as many of us have concurred in another thread, this type has improved a lot over the course of time.

fireice rox SG

Looking at the rear portion of the Citaro, seems that only one line of standing passenger is possible.

Not possible to stand two rows, as backside will be rubbing with backside or cock rubbing with the sitting passenger.

This bus will make more people to squeeze at the front and exit!!

SMB66X SG

It's not the price of the bus, not the age of the bus, but its tiny details like this that makes a passenger more comfortable and less pissed-off when you take a 1 hour journey to and fro every day.

Not to mention, the KUB's radiator is so annoyingly loud that it makes people have to talk louder when making a phone call in the bus.

i believe small details like this, will make people's daily commute much more bearable and comfortable.

The vibration parts would be the window. What people mean by saying that KUB have lots of vibration is that when the bus stops, the seats will vibrate..

TIB1234T SG

Looking at the rear portion of the Citaro, seems that only one line of standing passenger is possible.

Not possible to stand two rows, as backside will be rubbing with backside or cock rubbing with the sitting passenger.

This bus will make more people to squeeze at the front and exit!!

From what i observed, alot of people still doesn't know the last row of seats have only 4 instead of 5 seats, plus the engine cover is design below the last 2nd row of seat handles, so from the entrance, people will think there is a seat at the back, so they will move back. Indeed a very clever design for Citaro unlike MAN although it has more seats.

Everytime if i take a Citaro, i will seat at the engine cover there and observe their movement to the rear. However, after the 300 Citaros are in svcs, i think they might start to stick near to the Exit instead.

service_238 SG

so anyone feel that SBST O405 is better than SMRT O405? or the other way round?

as for the price wise, price of buses is one issue. maintainence cost is another big issue....

i wont compare O405s though its the same engine. It has a different bodywork and largely different gearbox. interior materials mostly different though that's not a big issue.

Why I would compare citaros is its the same for everything except the operator. Like in econs to compare 2 variables u must hold everything else constant and then compare the factor that is variable.

TIB1234T SG

This argument won't cut any ice with me.

You know why?

Its just a friggin bus.

Get over it.

And the KUB is comfortable.

You just have to lower your expectations.

I take 3 hours of bus rides each day, 3/4 of the time on KUBs and have adjusted well to it and found its plus points good enough.

Bottomline: There's 1100 KUBs, you cannot escape la. And do your part in being considerate to other commuters. That's more useful!

yah, at first i hate the KUBs due to the jerking and reckless driving, but after i took some of them this year, they pleased me with very smooth rides for some, although there are still room for improvements.

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