SBST Volvo B9TL Wright

last SG · 2010-09-10T00:55:50+00:00

Hmm, been boarding a few wrights on diff svc, and i notice that the aircon is not really strong, esp the upper deck, i dunno how to say it but when there is...

jcqh SG

er... the Wright B9TLs use Hanover EDS so whatever is on the Euro V K230UBs will be on the Wright B9TL.. probably testing the EDS to make sure all systems go.. don't read too much into things just yet..

True.

We'll just have to wait and see then.

SMB66X SG

The DDs, I encounter alot of times. Ppl are just too lazy to move up.. SO no use having DDs

What if this Wright is like OC500LE :D

SBS3688Y SG

Yup totally agree.

Even for the MRT shuttle during the JEMP disruptions, the bendies caused massive jams, especially while entering BBT int.

Also, I've noticed that for sv222's DDs, ppl just refuse to move up, thus leaving many empty seats on the upper deck while downstairs, ppl are packed like sardines.

One way to help solve the feeder routes woes is to use all SD but on high frequency, then free up the DDs for trunk routes. If a feeder bus route is heavily in use, perhaps can consider introducing another feeder route than runs similar to the 1st route (with only slight route differences), to help absorb the pax volume. In this way, can also help to better inter-connect the neighbourhood.

sbst275 SG

Precisely the point, If saving space is the key of all transport ops, then 700dd is the way to go, but as u have said, its not. QoS does matter too.

Mealbreaks can be a problem, but it can also be solved by drivers switching vehicles during meal break (pass veh over to someone who ate finish and go to eat) or returing back to depot just for meals.

All in all, the key point im trying to bring forward is that bendys are meant for certain ops, its not meant to replace every single route or service. Giving a single larger-sized berth in a int just for all feeders w/bendy wont take up much space, im in no way trying to imply that all berth should be upsized to fit bendys, that is indeed a waste of space.

Yes, educating people to move in is important, but actually, do note theres another part to it. Educating people to Let others move in if you are alighting soon is important too. That seems to be more of a problem from my observations, people trying to get off soon blocking the people trying to move to the rear.

using double decks dun simply means I want to save space. It's to carry more ppl at 1 go with the same bus length - important for routes like 179A. Else I would end up needing 60 - 70 buses and it would flood the entire Jurong West Extn New Town.

The space saving is vis a vis with bendy buses as they've same licensed capacity.

SBS7382C SG

but sometimes both services would come at the same time, after a long wait at the int...like 66 and 228...both services always have at least a 10 min wait...and they always reach the boarding berth abt the same time

SBS8214Z SG

Forumers talked about bendies taking up space on the roads. Forumers talked about SMRT having DDs.Some say about the efficency of passengers alighting faster.

True. SMRT should have double-decks, but it depends on height restriction on several routes. Retaining some bendies would be good in such cases if the amount of commuters on the route is higher than usual routes.

If the passengers for a double deck bus come out slower with one door, come with two door exit, adding up to three doors lorh.... like KMB 3Ns and 3BLs.

XiaoTaro SG

The space saving is vis a vis with bendy buses as they've same licensed capacity.

Thats true, which is why not all services are suitable for bendies from my previous previous post. But if u put a double deck on for example, 806, in that case thats a wastage of space, because the route is short and few will be willing to move upstairs. In that scenario, it will be equivilant to the capacity of 1 sd instead.

sbst275 SG

well it depends.

strangely the 'not moving to upper deck' is occuring in recent years compared to e past.

sbst275 SG

Forumers talked about bendies taking up space on the roads. Forumers talked about SMRT having DDs.Some say about the efficency of passengers alighting faster.

If the passengers for a double deck bus come out slower with one door, come with two door exit, adding up to three doors lorh.... like KMB 3Ns and 3BLs.

Well one way which is going on with the B9TL is to modify where the exit door is. So it makes it an 'force' or incentive depending on how you see it, for upper deck commuters to use the entrance for alighting.

SBS1985C SG

A small alignment of the exit door would be suffice. The left leaflet exit (view from outside) could just be aligned with the stair exit and the right leflet exit could be used by passengers of the lower deck.

nfshp253 SG

Err, should I drag all of you guys back into topic. It's about Volvo B9TL with the Wright Gemini 2 bodywork, not about SMRT buying DDs. Not intervening here, just wanted to ask if anyone got any photos of the new B9TLs (not the launch photos, but those of it on the road).

sbst275 SG

wat abt PIW?

smrt3099 SG

I suggestions of Feeder is too crowded, just like 241 and 242.. Split into 2 routes

sbst275 SG

I suggestions of Feeder is too crowded, just like 241 and 242.. Split into 2 routes

How much loading is ok to you?

When everyone is going to skool to work at e same time.

So now 179A can have queue stretching all the way to Wendy's or MRT stn, so SBS should split 179A into 2 routes?

SBS3688Y SG

How much loading is ok to you?

When everyone is going to skool to work at e same time.

So now 179A can have queue stretching all the way to Wendy's or MRT stn, so SBS should split 179A into 2 routes?

NTU and NIE should coodrinate the whole campus and start stagger the class starting hours. During my poly days, some of the days begin at 10am or even 12pm instead! Or else, construct an LRT system from BNL MRT to connect NTU, NIE, Boon Lay and Jurong West heartlands. Also, the LRT can also branch off to serve the Boon Lay neighbourbood to take some loads off svc 241,242,243. (sorry for being off-topic)

SBS1985C SG

wat abt PIW?

make the aisle wide enough for them to push through. though I admit that it might be a bit tight.

sbst275 SG

Well I believe it's staggered alrdy else you wun see packed 179 buses into NTU all e way till 2pm.

But since there's only 1x 179 into NTU, stagger also no use.

Ngweitong SG

Forumers talked about bendies taking up space on the roads. Forumers talked about SMRT having DDs.Some say about the efficency of passengers alighting faster.

If the passengers for a double deck bus come out slower with one door, come with two door exit, adding up to three doors lorh.... like KMB 3Ns and 3BLs.

bendy good, DD good, its time for singapore to buy JUMBO CRUISER la! :D merc O530GL chassis make into DD, wa thumbs up man! Haha! :D

fireice rox SG

found these pics of the B9TL

http://www.sgcitybus.fotopic.net/c1899353.html

the pics are not mine

nfshp253 SG

Awesome photos! When will they be in service?

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