Past bus routes and deployment

last SG · 2009-08-18T22:50:31+00:00

Are there any bus ply Hu Ching Rd in the past?Thought saw a SBS bus pass by Jurong Town Pri Sch when i was a kid

TIB1010Y SG

yeah miss those 1st generaton bendies that used to deployed on yishun routes. especially on svc 812, 851... ex-tibs 82 as well.. wonder how the bendies make their turn at the end of punggol rd

SBS8533C SG

Well, I was surprised that 62 had NAC Mercs. I thought 62 NAC fleet was DM Mk IIs.

Anyway, was 185 [CCK-Shenton Way (later shortened to Upp Bt Timah Rd)] under JRBP? I thought northwest side all under BBDEP.

What buses did 344 use when BPJ was still SBS territory?

62 did have NAC Merc running when it was in HGDEP. On certain occasions, it ran on HGS feeders (321, 322, 323, 326, 327, 328) and made appearences like 74, 82, 132 & 151.

185 used to be from BBDEP at first then it was being controlled by JRBP. NAC Mercs do appear on 185.

As for Bt Panajng feeders (343, 344), it uses Volvo B57s then Volvo MK2s (when B57s removed)..

Clarifying about sv 5 (Bt Panajng to Geylang Fringe CP) - this service was based in HGDEP/BBDEP. MB O305s from HGDEP also used to serve 5 (on top of the B57s, MK2/3, OFs & LAs (there were no LO2x or VO2x)

One Harmonius Blend SG

How many times did 980 shifted it's depot control from Woodland to AMK, Then AMK - WL?

iveco SG

Clarifying about sv 5 (Bt Panajng to Geylang Fringe CP) - this service was based in HGDEP/BBDEP. MB O305s from HGDEP also used to serve 5 (on top of the B57s, MK2/3, OFs & LAs (there were no LO2x or VO2x)

The old Svc 5 was dominated by DDs when SBS was in charge. It was one of the few BPJ routes that had DDs serving it.

SBS8533C SG

How many times did 980 shifted it's depot control from Woodland to AMK, Then AMK - WL?

980 was former 160.

Let's take an overview of the service..
1) 160 - KJ (initial - when TIBS takeover its services in 1983, its depot was only based in KJDEP)
2) 160 - AM/KJ
3) 160 - AM/WL
4) 980 - AM/WL
5) 980 - AM
6) 980 - AM/WL

One Harmonius Blend SG

so 06 is the final time where 980 went under w'lands control, and stayed ever since?

iveco SG

Wasn't AMDEP the HQ of Tibs before SMRT merger?

No wonder Hispano DAFs ever served 160. KJ side is DAF heaven.

SBS8533C SG

HISTORY OF TIBS SERVICES (Depot-Controlled). List exclude any crossovers, NR services & Premium service

59 - AMDEP [service withdrawn; replaced by 866]
61 - AMDEP/KJDEP; AMDEP/WLDEP
67 - AMDEP/KJDEP
75 - KJDEP; WLDEP; KJDEP
77 - KJDEP
82 - AMDEP [service handed to SBS]
103 - AMDEP [service handed to SBS]
106 - AMDEP/KJDEP; KJDEP; AMDEP/KJDEP [service became KJDEP when 106 shortened to Marina Centre]
160 - KJDEP; AMDEP/KJDEP; AMDEP/WLDEP [renumbered to 980]
161 - KJDEP; AMDEP/KJDEP [service withdrawn]
163 - AMDEP [service handed to SBS]
164 - KJDEP; AMDEP/KJDEP [service withdrawn}
167 - KJDEP; AMDEP/KJDEP; AMDEP/WLDEP
169 - KJDEP; AMDEP/KJDEP; AMDEP/WLDEP
171 - AMDEP; AMDEP/WLDEP
172 - KJDEP
173 - KJDEP; WLDEP
175 - KJDEP [service replaced by 975]
176 - KJDEP
177 - KJDEP; WLDEP
178 - KJDEP; WLDEP
179 - KJDEP [service withdrawn}
180 - KJDEP [Marsiling-WTC; service withdrawn]
180 - KJDEP [Bt Panjang-Boon Lay]
181 - KJDEP; WLDEP [service withdrawn]
182 - KJDEP [service withdarwn}
184 - KJDEP; WLDEP; KJDEP
187 - KJDEP; WLDEP
188 - KJDEP
188E - KJDEP
189 - KJDEP
190 - KJDEP; KJDEP/AMDEP; KJDEP
214E - AMDEP [service renumbered to 820]
214W - AMDEP [service renumbered to 821]
300 - KJDEP
302 - KJDEP
307 - KJDEP
343 - KJDEP [service withdrawn}
344 - KJDEP [service withdrawn]
345 - KJDEP [service withdrawn]
361 - KJDEP [service renumbered to 941]
365 - KJDEP [service renumbered to 945]
367 - KJDEP [service renumbered to 947]
372 - KJDEP [service withdrawn; replaced by 903]
520 - AMDEP [service withdrawn]
521 - WLDEP [service withdrawn;replaced by 963]
700 - KJDEP; WLDEP; KJDEP [RapidBus]
800 - AMDEP
801 - AMDEP [service replaced by 811]
802 - AMDEP [service replaced by 812]
803 - AMDEP [service replaced by 812]
804 - AMDEP
804A - AMDEP [service renumbered to 806]
805 - AMDEP [service replaced by 811]
806 - AMDEP
811 - AMDEP; WLDEP; AMDEP
812 - AMDEP; WLDEP; AMDEP
820 - AMDEP
821 - AMDEP
825 - AMDEP [bus plus]
850 - AMDEP [service withdrawn]
851 - AMDEP; WLDEP; AMDEP
852 - AMDEP/KJDEP; WLDEP/KJDEP; AMDEP/KJDEP; AMDEP; WLDEP
853 - AMDEP; WLDEP; AMDEP
854 - AMDEP; WLDEP; AMDEP
854E - AMDEP
855 - AMDEP/KJDEP; WLDEP; AMDEP
856 - AMDEP; WLDEP
857 - AMDEP [Yishun-Admiralty Rd West; serivce withdrawn]
857 - WLDEP [Yishun-Suntec City]
858 - KJDEP; WLDEP
859 - WLDEP; AMDEP; WLDEP; AMDEP; AMDEP/WLDEP
860 - AMDEP [service withdrawn;replaced by 865]
864 - AMDEP [service handed to SBS]
865 - AMDEP [service handed to SBS]
866 - AMDEP [service handed to SBS]
882 - AMDEP/WLDEP
900 - KJDEP [Woodlands-Woodlands St 13; service replaced by 911]
900/900A - WLDEP [Woodlands-Woodlands Dr14; 900A serve Champions Way]
901 - KJDEP [Woodlands - Woodlands St81; service replaced by 911]
901 - WLDEP [Woodlands-Woodlands Dr 16]
902 - KJDEP [Woodalnds - Woodlands St 32; service replaced by 912]
902 - WLDEP [Woodalnds - Republic Poly]
903 - KJDEP; WLDEP
904 - KJDEP [service replaced by 913]
905 - KJDEP [service replaced by 912}
906 - KJDEP [ Service replaced by 913]
911 - KJDEP; WLDEP
912 - KJDEP; WLDEP
913 - KJDEP; WLDEP
920 - WLDEP; KJDEP; WLDEP
921 - WLDEP
922 - WLDEP; KJDEP; WLDEP
925 - KJDEP [excluding crossover]
926 - KJDEP
927 - KJDEP
941 - KJDEP
945 - KJDEP
947 - KJDEP
950 - KJDEP [Marsiling-Shenton Way;service withdrawn]
950 - WLDEP [ Woodlands - Kotaraya II]
951 - KJDEP [service withdrawal]
952 - KJDEP [service withdrawal}
960 - KJDEP; WLDEP
961 - WLDEP; AMDEP/WLDEP
962 - WLDEP
963 - WLDEP
963E - WLDEP
963R - WLDEP
964 - KJDEP; WLDEP
965 - WLDEP/AMDEP
966 - WLDEP
969 - WLDEP/AMDEP
970 - WLDEP; KJDEP
975 - KJDEP
980 - AMDEP/WLDEP; AMDEP; AMDEP/WLDEP
981 - WLDEP
985 - KJDEP; KJDEP/AMDEP
985W - KJDEP [service withdrawn]
989 - KJDEP [service withdrawn]
SS7 - KJDEP [service withdarwn]
RWS8 - AMDEP
RWS88 - KJDEP

Correct me if there is any mistakes!

SBS8533C SG

so 06 is the final time where 980 went under w'lands control, and stayed ever since?

WLDEP/AMDEP is the final time in 2001..

One Harmonius Blend SG

For how long did 75 stayed under KJ's control, before it x-overed to w'lands, and went over to KJ in 08' ?

and for 106's case, was 08' the first time it went under AMK's control?

SBS8533C SG

Wasn't AMDEP the HQ of Tibs before SMRT merger?

No wonder Hispano DAFs ever served 160. KJ side is DAF heaven.

AMDEP is the HQ of TIBS since 1986. Before that, TIBS buses were only based in KJDEP. So KJDEP was the very first bus depot of TIBS before AMDEP.

SBS8533C SG

For how long did 75 stayed under KJ's control, before it x-overed to w'lands, and went over to KJ in 08' ?

and for 106's case, was 08' the first time it went under AMK's control?

When sv 75 was handed to TIBS on 6 Aug 1995, the service was under KJDEP until sometime on 26 Dec 1999 - the opening of Bukit Panajng Int, it was under WLDEP = 4 years in KJDEP (1995-1999) ; 8 years in WLDEP (2000-2008).

For 106 case, it was AMDEP/KJDEP when it was taken over on 24 Dec 2000 and became KJDEP when the service shorteened to Marina Centre in 2003 = 3 years in AMDEP/KJDEP (2000-2003); 5 years in KJDEP (2003-2008).

One Harmonius Blend SG

For 106 case, it was AMDEP/KJDEP when it was taken over on 24 Dec 2000 and became KJDEP when the service shorteened to Marina Centre in 2003 = 3 years in AMDEP/KJDEP (2000-2003); 5 years in KJDEP (2003-2008).

is it 50:50, as in both sides has it fair share of control whe it was handed over?

SBS8533C SG

is it 50:50, as in both sides has it fair share of control whe it was handed over?

KJDEP had given 4 AM/PM duties to AMDEP (note that 2 sv106 buses from KJDEP were sent to AMDEP 106).

One Harmonius Blend SG

KJDEP had given 4 AM/PM duties to AMDEP (note that 2 sv106 buses from KJDEP were sent to AMDEP 106).

so AMK has the minority control when it was handed over, and up till now?

SBS8533C SG

so AMK has the minority control when it was handed over, and up till now?

Yes. even during the Bt Batok - Serangoon era of 2000-2003. This service mostly uses the bendies from AM/KJ, sometime Dennis lance from AMDEP too.

If you ever see a cameo of a Dennis lance or any AMDEP buses like TIB958U on 106 - this reminds you of the past when such buses appeared on 106 during the Bt Batok-Serangoon era.

One Harmonius Blend SG

If you ever see a cameo of a Dennis lance or any AMDEP buses like TIB958U on 106 - this reminds you of the past when such buses appeared on 106 during the Bt Batok-Serangoon era.

oh, dennis lance, i saw both before on 106, 1012S did 106 before last month

SBS8533C SG

Another correction that I wanted to point out on one of the Jurong East services:

At start when 97 was introduced in 1983... the service used to be from Jurong East Ctrl Ter to Shenton Way operating in peak hours. When sv 86 was integrated with Service 97, service 97 was then extended to Hougang (South) Int on 20 Dec 1983 and converted into a full day service.

86 used to serve from Hougang (South) to Shenton Way for a short period of time, when the 3 roadside terminals being abolished on the same year itself.

SMB32T SG

980 was made full AMDEP again in Sept 2004 for a short period of time when 950 was introduced. Went back to partial WLDEP in Oct 2004 (3 full duties to WLDEP). Ever since then some duties were bounced between AMDEP and WLDEP as follows:-

Sept 2004: full AMDEP
Oct 2004: 3 full duties to WLDEP (AMDEP 8 full + 2 S, WLDEP 3 full)
Mar 2005: 3 more duties to WLDEP (AMDEP 6 full + 1 S, WLDEP 5 full + 1 S)
Jun 2005: 2 full duties back to AMDEP (AMDEP 8 full + 1 S, WLDEP 3 full + 1 S)

Note in Nov 2007 there were arrangements whereby WLDEP operates more buses on 980 on weekends, replacing some AMDEP slots...

Nov 2007: (Sun and Pub Hols only): 1 TQ and 2 full to WLDEP (AMDEP 6 full + 2 PM, WLDEP 5 full + 2 TQ + 1 PM)
Nov 2007 (Sat only): 1 TQ to WLDEP (AMDEP 8 full, WLDEP 3 full + 2 TQ)

May 2008: 2 full duties to AMDEP...

Weekday: AMDEP 10 full + 1 S, WLDEP 1 full + 1 S
Saturday: AMDEP 10 full, WLDEP 1 full + 2 TQ
Sunday: AMDEP 8 full + 2 PM, WLDEP 3 full + 2 TQ + 1 PM

Sounds rather confusing here do I?

SMB32T SG

HISTORY OF TIBS SERVICES (Depot-Controlled). List exclude any crossovers, NR services & Premium service

171 - AMDEP; AMDEP/WLDEP

>> Back to full AMDEP in 1999, then AMDEP/WLDEP in 2008

178 - KJDEP; WLDEP
181 - KJDEP; WLDEP [service withdrawn]
187 - KJDEP; WLDEP

Service 181 was renumbered 961 in Dec 1998
178, 181 and 187 were partial WLDEP/KJDEP in Oct 1998
187 full WLDEP in Jul 1999, 178 full WLDEP in Aug 1999, 961 full WLDEP in Dec 1999

343 - KJDEP [service withdrawn}

>> Renumbered to 921 in Apr 2000 and became WLDEP, merged with 700/700A and withdrawn somewhere in 2006

820 - AMDEP
821 - AMDEP

>> Handed back to SBST in Dec 1999

852 - AMDEP/KJDEP; WLDEP/KJDEP; AMDEP/KJDEP; AMDEP; WLDEP

>> Full KJDEP, then WLDEP/KJDEP (Oct 1998), AMDEP/KJDEP (Dec 1999), AMDEP (Jun 2000), AMDEP/KJDEP (Jan 2001), AMDEP (Jan 2004), WLDEP (Mar 2008)

853 - AMDEP; WLDEP; AMDEP
854 - AMDEP; WLDEP; AMDEP
855 - AMDEP/KJDEP; WLDEP; AMDEP

>> These 3 services were dual AMDEP/WLDEP then back to AMDEP

856 - AMDEP; WLDEP

>> AMDEP/KJDEP, then WLDEP

961 - WLDEP; AMDEP/WLDEP

>> as mentioned above (181)

964 - KJDEP; AMDEP

>> was never under AMDEP before, went straight to WLDEP

Correct me if there is any mistakes!

See my quote above in red

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