Past bus routes and deployment

last SG · 2009-08-18T22:50:31+00:00

Are there any bus ply Hu Ching Rd in the past?Thought saw a SBS bus pass by Jurong Town Pri Sch when i was a kid

Gus.chong SG

182 was introduced back in late 1990s.

Jurong East - Tuas via Jurong East St 13, Jurong East Ctrl, Jurong Town Hall Rd, Boon Lay Way, Corporation Rd, Jln Ahmad Ibrahim, Tuas West Dr.

Yes, it's introduced in 1998 from Jurong East to Tuas, when Tuas Ter opened. Shortened to Boon Lay in 2001. For more information, see the last third post on page 55 which I posted. (if I'm not wrong)

But what he's referring is 182#, not 182.

Gus.chong SG

The 242 part is not true, back then there wasn't much HDB devt in Jurong West Extn to begin with.

Your post is wrong. Look at this post which SBS8533C written.

Route of Service 175:

When the Service shortened to Bt Batok on 6 Nov 1989:
Bt batok int, Bt Batok Cttrl, Bt Batok West Ave 3, Bt Batok Rd, Jurong Rd, PIE, Jurong Rd, Upp Jurong Rd, Jln Ahmad Ibrahim Rd, Tuas West Rd, Pioneer Rd and Tuas Rd (Loop)

Return via Upp Jurong Rd, PIE, Jurong Rd, Bt Batok Rd, Bt Batok West Ave 3, Bt Batok Ctrl, Bt BAtok Int.

When the Service was amended to loop at Jurong West St 91 on 7 Jul 1990, the day after teh Boon Lay MRT Station opens:
Bt Batok Int, Bt Batok Ctrl, Bt Batok West Ave 3, Bt Btok Rd, Jurong Rd, PIE, Upp Jurong Rd, Jurong West St 72, Jurong West Ave 5, Pioneer Rd North, JUrong Wst St 91 (Loop)

Return via Jurong West St 92, St 91, Pioneer Rd North, Jurong West Ave 5, Jurong West St 72, Upp Jurong Rd, PIE, Jurong Rd, Bt batok Rd, Bt Batok West Ave 3, Bt Batok Ctrl, Bt Batok Int.

However, in this case, the withdrawal reasons for 175 was not because of the amendments of 99. Only service 242 used to ply along Jurong West St 72 and Ave 5. This service, together with 188 was withdrawn on 20 Jan 1991 to minimise route duplcation.

To enhance the areas of Jurong West New Town (focusing on Jurong West St 72 and Ave 5), service 99 from Clementi was amended to serve Jurong West St 72 and Ave 5 on 19 May 1991, just 4 months after the withdrawal of 175 and 188.

SMB32T SG

UDs - 368Y 370P 372J (1st half of 1999)
Scania - 565U 665P 666L 673R (from Jan 2001 onwards)

Service 980 during the beginning days of WLDEP operations in 1998-1999 was worst off with majority Nissan UD fleets (the above mentiones were perms only during this period), after which 980 became full AMDEP controlled due to the SBS/Tibs swop.

In Jan 2001, service 980 came back under partial WLDEP again, this time round with full Scania fleets (565U 658K 665P 666L 672T 673R). There were Nissan UDs from WLDEP too but not very common then.

SMB32T SG

Another thing to point out that when 980 was still AMDEP and WLDEP in 2001, some of NAC Nissans were still doing 980 until they were de-registered and 980 was made to blend in with its secondary buses.

I remembered TIB333Y which was the only NAC Nissan UD on 980 perm doing s-shift under ADMEP side. TIB919H took over after TIB333Y was dereg in Dec 2001.

TIB 781 L SG

In Jan 2001, service 980 came back under partial WLDEP again, this time round with full Scania fleets (565U 658K 665P 666L 672T 673R). There were Nissan UDs from WLDEP too but not very common then.

So how many fleets did 980 had in WL in 2001,2004 and 2006?

SMB32T SG

So how many fleets did 980 had in WL in 2001,2004 and 2006?

Oct 98 to Jul 99: 4 AP + 1 S

Jul 99 to Jan 01: Full AMDEP controlled

Jan 01 to Sep 04: 5 AP + 1 S

Sep 04 to Oct 04: Full AMDEP controlled (short while due to intro of 950?)

Oct 04 to Mar 05: 3 AP (658K 665P 673R went back to 980)

Mar 05 to Jun 05: 5 AP + 1 S (several CAC Nissan UDs cover the missing slots)

Jul 05 to May 08: 3 AP + 1 S (929D and 1257C went perm)

From May 08: 1 AP + 1S (183U and 673R left the fleet, 934M and 939A went perm)

Note that from Nov 2007 onwards, a few extra duties were handed over to WLDEP during weekends to cover for AMDEP's missing slots. Random WLDEP rigids are deployed.

TIB 781 L SG

Oct 98 to Jul 99: 4 AP + 1 S

Jul 99 to Jan 01: Full AMDEP controlled

Jan 01 to Sep 04: 5 AP + 1 S

Sep 04 to Oct 04: Full AMDEP controlled (short while due to intro of 950?)

Oct 04 to Mar 05: 3 AP (658K 665P 673R went back to 980)

Mar 05 to Jun 05: 5 AP + 1 S (several CAC Nissan UDs cover the missing slots)

Jul 05 to May 08: 3 AP + 1 S (929D and 1257C went perm)

From May 08: 1 AP + 1S (183U and 673R left the fleet, 934M and 939A went perm)

Note that from Nov 2007 onwards, a few extra duties were handed over to WLDEP during weekends to cover for AMDEP's missing slots. Random WLDEP rigids are deployed.

It seems very messy though, for 980.

So from June 05' onwards, were mercz a common sight from AMDEP?

And in 2006 isn't there only 2 perms? 658K and 665P?

As for 167, Did it deploy full Lance fleet after it's minority control in AMDEP in 2001?

SMB32T SG

It seems very messy though, for 980.

So from June 05' onwards, were mercz a common sight from AMDEP?

And in 2006 isn't there only 2 perms? 658K and 665P?

Yup, the deployment became very messy for service 980 ever since Sept 2004.

Mercs I would say they appear on service 980 once in a while on weekends, regardless of AMDEP or WLDEP.

In 2006, these 4 were perm under WLDEP 980: TIB658K TIB665P TIB673R TIB1254K (3 Scanias and 1 s-shift Nissan UD). CSS183U replaced TIB1254K later that year.

In May 2008, changes were made again. 2 AP duties from WLDEP were handed over to AMDEP. TIB673R and CSS183U left, TIB934M and TIB939A becoming perm from AMDEP side. TIB658K became perm s-shift.

Ever since then, TIB658K and TIB665P had been the only perm service 980 under WLDEP side. More WLDEP buses will appear on weekends to replace the missing AMDEP slots (AMDEP will have any 2 perm buses that don't operate on Sundays). This messy arrangement had been made since Nov 2007.

SMB32T SG

As for 167, Did it deploy full Lance fleet after it's minority control in AMDEP in 2001?

167 had TIB504X under AMDEP for once, then got swopped with TIB619Z from service 171. The rest of the AMDEP fleet are Lances.

TIB 781 L SG

Sorry if I keep asking about mercz on 980, I just wanted to find out was mercz on 980 common or not though. If I am not wrong, in the pre-UD days 178 had mercz coming out occasionally (on any 2 weeks, then sink again, so on and forth) That was last year though.

As for 167, Was it a full lance fleet, with mercz popping by occasionally in 2001?

TIB 781 L SG

167 had TIB504X under AMDEP for once, then got swopped with TIB619Z from service 171. The rest of the AMDEP fleet are Lances.

Seems like they were leinient enough to 167 though to keep 1 mercz perm. Thanks anyway and also when did TIB 480E became perm?

But SG Wiki did state that 654X and 657M as perms from AMDEP, When was that?

SMB32T SG

Seems like they were leinient enough to 167 though to keep 1 mercz perm. Thanks anyway and also when did TIB 480E became perm?

But SG Wiki did state that 654X and 657M as perms from AMDEP, When was that?

Think TIB480E had been perm since 2000...

Oct 1998 to mid 1999.

sbst275 SG

Your post is wrong. Look at this post which SBS8533C written.

someone mentioned 242 was cut because of duplication w/ 99.

When there was only N7, N8 & N9 to begin with, there wasn't much road for 99 & 242 to use.

To me 175 & 188's case is all because of e MRT. SBS could concentrate onto improving the feeder svs or corridors w/o e MRT w/ the MRT commencement.

TIB 781 L SG

Think TIB480E had been perm since 2000...

Oct 1998 to mid 1999.

So is TIB 480 E and 619Z full day perms on 167?

Gus.chong SG

I heard before SBS had introduced 2 AIRBUS service in 1995, is that true?

The_Bus_Guide SG

someone mentioned 242 was cut because of duplication w/ 99.

When there was only N7, N8 & N9 to begin with, there wasn't much road for 99 & 242 to use.

To me 175 & 188's case is all because of e MRT. SBS could concentrate onto improving the feeder svs or corridors w/o e MRT w/ the MRT commencement.

I don't remember any dates but the chronology of events is something like this. In the beginning, the only access to JW N9 was via Pioneer Rd Nth. Both 99 and 188 would turn in from Upp Jurong Rd (now JW Ave 3). When N7 and N8 were occupied, it was 188 which was first amended via Ave 5 & St 72. Eventually, 99 was also amended along the same route and everything was cool until the opening of Boon Lay Int/MRT.

175 was amended and 242 was introduced. So, for a while, JW St 91 was happily served by 4 services: 99, 175, 188, 242. Service 175 was a CMI case after its amendment. The buses were always empty, although it was nice to see an Albion Viking going round the bends. :-) And so, due to poor ridership, its sayonara 175.

As for 188's case, its duplication. The main purpose for 188 was for the JW Ext residents to gain access to Jurong Bus Interchange and Lakeside MRT. So when the MRT and interchange at Boon Lay was completed, it became redundant and its ridership wasn't as strong as before. And so, arrivederchi 188 and we are left with 2 services again; 99, 242.

Then somewhere along the line came 243. If I'm not mistaken, when 243 came, it took over the route via JW St 72, Ave 5 & Pioneer Rd Nth. 242 was amended to go via Upp Jurong Rd, Pioneer Rd Nth. This chapter was a bit confusing as changes took place back and forth between 242 and 243. Eventually when St 81 was completed and 243 was made to serve that area while 242 got back its original route.

Route enhancements were made to 243 later on but as far as 99 and 242 were concerned, that was the end of the story until 2009, when Pioneer MRT was opened and I'm sure everyone knew what happened then. ;-)

That's the end of my long winded tale. This is pure memory work from my experience as a JW resident of over 20 years. There's bound to be mistakes and some things which I've missed out. Hence, I'd like to apologise beforehand. Thank you.

Gus.chong SG

Ok. Thanks for the information.

Gus.chong SG

Did anyone knows, why some SMRT bus services did not use bendies? What are the rules & regulations of using bendies on SMRT Buses?

Gus.chong SG

SBS8533C, can you tell us about the Lor 1 Geylang Bus Services?

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